RE: 'Authentic' Land Cruiser 70 goes back on sale

RE: 'Authentic' Land Cruiser 70 goes back on sale

Wednesday 29th November 2023

'Authentic' Land Cruiser 70 goes back on sale

Toyota presumably bows to customer demand as it reintroduces its off-road icon to the JDM


Imagine a reality where Land Rover introduced an all-new Defender that was greeted with acclaim, but continued to build and sell the old one alongside it in much lower volume for those who preferred the traditional approach. Land Rover, not unreasonably, said this was not possible or even desirable when it ceased production of its venerable off-roader back in 2016. Toyota, which has just launched a well-received new generation of Land Cruiser, stopped selling its equivalent of the Defender domestically back in 2004, deeming it surplus to requirements in Japan. Now, 20 years later - and 40 since it was introduced - the J70 returns to the JDM. 

Why? Well, probably because the manufacturer reckons it can shift 400 a month in its home market. And it has existing capacity to continue producing a long-running model still sold elsewhere. And because it likely realises the value of its ‘authentic off-road design, tough frame, outstanding basic performance, and simple component structure’ to a customer base that favours them over the modern-day alternative. Additionally, there’s the car’s legendary status to consider, and its implied rejection of anything as frilly and non-essential as moving with the times. It’s like buying a waxed jacket. Or an old Defender. Or a new Grenadier. 

Inevitably, the very latest JDM-spec 70 Series is a little more like that latter than it is the former. And that’s because, despite appearances, its maker has thoughtfully updated the model prior to its reintroduction. We talked about its very gentle design revisions when Toyota announced it alongside the latest Land Cruiser, but you also get Vehicle Stability Control, Active Traction Control, Hill Start Assist Control, Downhill Assist Control and electronic diff locks to go with your ladder frame chassis and (entirely excellent) nearside wing-mounted mirror. 

Additionally, there’s a 204hp 2.8-litre turbo diesel under the hood, mated to a six-speed automatic - giving you a thoroughly modern-sounding 369lb ft of mud-defying torque. On-road comfort is said to have improved, too. Built in Japan, there’s only one trim level - which is called ‘AX’ for some reason - priced from 4,800,000 yen. Which translates to a depressingly reasonable £25k. Impossible to compare apples with apples a world away, of course - but imagine the 70 (or a Defender or a Grenadier) going on sale over here for anywhere close to that amount. Still, the JDM doesn’t get it all its own way: Toyota has also launched a new version of the short-wheelbase three-door model powered by a 228hp petrol V6 - a derivative it currently only sells in the UAE. Go figure. 


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jason61c

Original Poster:

5,978 posts

176 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Coolest car on here.

Wonder how much you can get one landed in the uk for?

x5tuu

11,968 posts

189 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Thats amazingly cheap - can see quite a few (if not almost all) being exported west!

Earthdweller

13,661 posts

128 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Most excellent!

jhonn

1,567 posts

151 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Hhmmm.. it still features the over-complicated emissions and electronic systems necessary for any large-capacity diesel engine - EGR/DMF, common-rail injection, Ad-Blue injection, traction control, etc.

Granted, it's a Toyota, so more likely to be robust and reliable in the short to medium term, however these will all give trouble at some point, so it would be a 'No thanks' from me.

carinaman

21,372 posts

174 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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I didn't know you could get matt beige Tilley lamps.

Jon_S_Rally

3,450 posts

90 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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They love a new-old 4x4 out here in Saudi. I think there will be a market for stuff like this for a long time to come in some parts of the world.

LimaDelta

6,567 posts

220 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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God I wish they sold that here. I would even take it over the new one (though not sure the kids would agree).

On Cam

2,315 posts

170 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Perfect

stu67

816 posts

190 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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These are epic, think they would sell a load of them if they were available over here everything else just looks "complicated" in comparison.

Equus

16,980 posts

103 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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jason61c said:
Wonder how much you can get one landed in the uk for?
^^^ This.

Even with shipping costs, import duties and IVA testing, with a base price of £25K that ought to piss all over an Ineos Grenadier. It's even RHD.

911Spanker

1,287 posts

18 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Equus said:
jason61c said:
Wonder how much you can get one landed in the uk for?
^^^ This.

Even with shipping costs, import duties and IVA testing, with a base price of £25K that ought to piss all over an Ineos Grenadier. It's even RHD.
Yep, it would kill the Ineos.

Birky_41

4,321 posts

186 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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I want!

Just need to find out who/how I can get one exported to UK

Demonix

496 posts

214 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Definitely have that much ver the Ineos, £25k is a bargain and shipping woul be circa £3k, if it meets current emissions, assume as it's a "new" old design then no type approval required so simple to register. Wonder what the import duty is?

Ziplobb

1,371 posts

286 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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that is exactly what I want to spend my money on

SuperPav

1,096 posts

127 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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I reckon it would be just under £40k if you wanted to bring one over.

10% duty, 20% VAT. Shipping + insurance. Then it would need IVA'ing with any minor tweaks to get it through, as it wouldn't meet any EU/GB type approval requirements.

Still not bad value...

ChrisCh86

868 posts

46 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Very cool, and at a sensible price. I imagine that demand is going to be strong.

CKY

1,460 posts

17 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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x5tuu said:
Thats amazingly cheap - can see quite a few (if not almost all) being exported west!
Likewise, far more appealing, resilient and better-built than that Ineos thing or the new Defender.

Equus

16,980 posts

103 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Demonix said:
D...if it meets current emissions, assume as it's a "new" old design then no type approval required so simple to register.
If it's a 'personal import', then it has to go through an IVA test, but that ought to be no real problem.

JJJ.

1,390 posts

17 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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SuperPav said:
I reckon it would be just under £40k if you wanted to bring one over.

10% duty, 20% VAT. Shipping + insurance. Then it would need IVA'ing with any minor tweaks to get it through, as it wouldn't meet any EU/GB type approval requirements.

Still not bad value...
Yep, was thinking around 37-40k mark too. Wonder how it fairs against the current Land Cruiser all things taken into account.

jwwbowe

582 posts

174 months

Wednesday 29th November 2023
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Yep well worth bringing one over if you can, I’d trust it over an Ineos with BMW power or anything LR made (obviously). It would need undersealing professionally with dintrol or suchlike to cope with our salt roads.

Think the AUS market can have it with a V8 smokin

Edited by jwwbowe on Wednesday 29th November 15:59