RE: E39 M5 V8 E31 8 Series = classic BMW perfection

[daveco]

Still Mulling said:

daveco said:

Shabaza said:

Throwing stars didnt come on e38, perhaps he means M parallels

Correctamundo

Ah, I see. Simplistically elegant as they are, there were too many twin-leg 5-spokes in Max Power when I was a kid for me to be in love with them.

I also didn't know that those that I posted are known as throwing stars. They are now even cooler to me!

Throwing stars are indeed cool!

But what makes the M parallels cooler is that they are very easy to keep clean

[Still Mulling]

daveco said:

But what makes the M parallels cooler is that they are very easy to keep clean

[Lambo FirstBlood]

Very nice (apart from the wheels that everyone has mentioned)

But you could do this:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023031452...

And this:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2024051597...

For £50K Less.

I’m sure it’s wonderful (I have an E39 M5 and it’s close to perfect) but you’d have really want this car.

[kambites]

Well visually the only bad bits are the bits they've changed...

[928 GTS]

Take E38 Alpina B12 6.0 engine as basis. Add E36 M3 3.2 four valve heads to it. Insert it and 6 speed from later M3 or M6 into E31. Now this is proper recipe for 850 restomod.

[Alpenus]

wheels

[GreatScott2016]

To me that looks odd, particularly from the front. Never been a fan of pop up lights and given the “running” lights that sit just below, it’s not a cohesive package for me. Not unattractive elsewhere though

Edited by GreatScott2016 on Friday 17th May 16:40

[Slowlygettingit]

daveco said:

Still Mulling said:

daveco said:

Shabaza said:

Throwing stars didnt come on e38, perhaps he means M parallels

Correctamundo

Ah, I see. Simplistically elegant as they are, there were too many twin-leg 5-spokes in Max Power when I was a kid for me to be in love with them.

I also didn't know that those that I posted are known as throwing stars. They are now even cooler to me!

Throwing stars are indeed cool!

But what makes the M parallels cooler is that they are very easy to keep clean

‘Throwing stars’ were known as scoopies in my neck of the woods, as at the time bmw made a big thing about scooping cold air on the brakes at speed to keep them cool……..

[Robertb]

Im not generally a fan of Manhart's work, but that is lovely. I would love to see a proper review.

As said above though, an actual 850CSI manual is significantly less money, even allowing for some light restomodding.

And the same money would buy a nice 550 Maranello.

Still, I nice dilemma to have!

[Water Fairy]

Love it. Wheels I'd go down a size but don't mind the design at all.

Price almost ok too!

[TheMilkyBarKid]

I’m not a big fan of most of Manhart’s stuff but I like that very much indeed. I even like the wheels but would maybe go an inch smaller on the alloy diameter and a bit more sidewall on the tyres, but that really is all I’d change.

[ArgonautX]

928 GTS said:

Take E38 Alpina B12 6.0 engine as basis. Add E36 M3 3.2 four valve heads to it. Insert it and 6 speed from later M3 or M6 into E31. Now this is proper recipe for 850 restomod.

You would need a custom head design for at least one of the cylinder banks. Has been tried before(put a DOHC head on a M70/73 engine) but I'm not sure anyone was determined enough to bring that experiment to fruition.
M70/M73 can be tuned to 400+ hp naturally aspirated.
Or, you could try with a N73 and see if that can be shoved inside.

[LotusOmega375D]

Why not go the whole hog and pop one of these in? McLaren F1 BMW V12, S70/2 with 627bhp.

https://youtu.be/IQ8DHtR9P7w

[Mr Tidy]

I like it, apart from the wheels!

But like others have said what's the point when you could buy an 850CSi for about half the money?

[FourRingedDonuts]

LunarOne said:

supacool1 said:

Wheels look a little daft, but the rest is perfect! Love it.

Couldn't agree more. Wheels ruin what is otherwise perfect!

It really would be perfect on period correct 18 inch wheels.
I think It's because 'Restomod'.
Unless someone can tell me a benefit to putting 20's on an 8 series

[hu8742]

Remarkable ... in that for once there is a consensus on a PH thread!

Other than the wheels, perfect.

As someone pointed out, BMW take note. "THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT THE MARKET WANTS"

[Amirhussain]

hu8742 said:

Remarkable ... in that for once there is a consensus on a PH thread!

Other than the wheels, perfect.

As someone pointed out, BMW take note. "THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT THE MARKET WANTS"

Not really. If that was true than the likes of the Z4M, E46 CSL, E61 M5 would have sold a lot more.

A few petrol heads on the internet isn’t the market.

[Sofa]

d_a_n1979 said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

I must be getting old because I think those wheels are too big.

They are

It needs either a set of Style 21s or a set of Style 37s at the most

It'd be a much classier finish with those wheels

I was thinking the exact same thing- even a set of custom Style 21s in a bigger size would be a nice nod to the fact it's a restomod but still suit the car quite well.

[Mr Tidy]

Amirhussain said:

hu8742 said:

Remarkable ... in that for once there is a consensus on a PH thread!

Other than the wheels, perfect.

As someone pointed out, BMW take note. "THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT THE MARKET WANTS"

Not really. If that was true than the likes of the Z4M, E46 CSL, E61 M5 would have sold a lot more.

A few petrol heads on the internet isn’t the market.

Well we may be now, but weren't back when they were on sale!

I'm just glad someone bought my Z4M so I could have it later.

[GTRene]

ArgonautX said:

birky said:

Looks great but agree about the wheels.
Is there much weight difference between the the V12 and V8? Enough to affect handling?

There isn't... about 30-40 kg. V12 is a simpler engine, no VVT and SOHC head.

There is also a better balance I guess, lighter and shorter, more middle engine, plus extra HP

I do love this car inside out, looks so cool, ok wheels could be a better choice for, but outside that? there is much want in this one, the goodies, the color, the interior, just a great car and ow, not bad money compared to some other 'restomod' cars, then this is a bargain, ok for most still a lot of money, but compared to some crazy wild other restomod cars, its a relatively bargain.

nice work Manhart.