EVs... no one wants them!
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cptsideways said:
The massive deprecation is certainly generating interest in the used vfm man maths calculator. Mrs would be an ideal candidate for her 500 yard commute! (She does cycle in the summer)
Yup. It's the joy of having to make and sell a product that no one actually needs or is being forced to buy. I suspect the BIK saving will generally be being eroded away by the higher financing cost due to the amount of depreciation but that's not really the end of the world. And meanwhile the supply of used EVs are food for folk with driveways, with usage that fits but generally not the type of punter to brainlessly rush to pay other people's tabs. Long May it continue. Used EVs are the perfect shed material as you can buy smart and then make your own shed rather than leaving someone else to create the shed and then having to ferret through faecal spattered, proper sloppy seconds which could still capitulate on the drive back from the hole you had to go to collect it from.
Nothing is cheaper than creating your own shed and at the moment its EVs coming off their first lease that present by far the best value proposition.
Zj2002 said:
BricktopST205 said:
Zj2002 said:
Yes you could.
My point isn’t in relation to EVs. It’s in relation to leasing v sheds.
Okay but technically everyone is a mug in that respect as if getting from a) to b) as cheaply as possible (Kind of the point of an EV) then you are never going to be cheaper than a shed maintained by Kenneth on his drive not withstanding government tax dodge incentives. My point isn’t in relation to EVs. It’s in relation to leasing v sheds.
However it’s not true.
I don’t have an ev because I want to save the planet or want to be frugal. My choice was based upon being able to get a 500+ bhp car for the same cost as my 2.0 tdi.
t. I’m comfortably off to be able to have whatever I want without morally or financially damaging myself. That’s just me but if someone else wants an old used car good on them. I also don’t drive an EV to save the planet as I generally couldn’t give two hoots demonstrated by my diesel 2022 Defender.If my financial circumstances took a turn for the worse I would buy whatever my budget allowed for. You pays your money you make your choice. If it’s not right for you don’t do it.
Mikebentley said:
Zj2002 said:
BricktopST205 said:
Zj2002 said:
Yes you could.
My point isn’t in relation to EVs. It’s in relation to leasing v sheds.
Okay but technically everyone is a mug in that respect as if getting from a) to b) as cheaply as possible (Kind of the point of an EV) then you are never going to be cheaper than a shed maintained by Kenneth on his drive not withstanding government tax dodge incentives. My point isn’t in relation to EVs. It’s in relation to leasing v sheds.
However it’s not true.
I don’t have an ev because I want to save the planet or want to be frugal. My choice was based upon being able to get a 500+ bhp car for the same cost as my 2.0 tdi.
t. I’m comfortably off to be able to have whatever I want without morally or financially damaging myself. That’s just me but if someone else wants an old used car good on them. I also don’t drive an EV to save the planet as I generally couldn’t give two hoots demonstrated by my diesel 2022 Defender.If my financial circumstances took a turn for the worse I would buy whatever my budget allowed for. You pays your money you make your choice. If it’s not right for you don’t do it.
GT9 said:
Absolutely right Gary.
All these mugs buying new cars when they could buy a newly-manufactured shed at a fraction of the cost.
Second-hand car manufacturers are two a penny on this planet.
The importance of the new car supply chain to the functioning of the second hand market is totally overblown, in fact no such relationship exists.
Not.
How is life in the 1990s ?All these mugs buying new cars when they could buy a newly-manufactured shed at a fraction of the cost.
Second-hand car manufacturers are two a penny on this planet.
The importance of the new car supply chain to the functioning of the second hand market is totally overblown, in fact no such relationship exists.
Not.
Zj2002 said:
Mikebentley said:
Zj2002 said:
BricktopST205 said:
Zj2002 said:
Yes you could.
My point isn’t in relation to EVs. It’s in relation to leasing v sheds.
Okay but technically everyone is a mug in that respect as if getting from a) to b) as cheaply as possible (Kind of the point of an EV) then you are never going to be cheaper than a shed maintained by Kenneth on his drive not withstanding government tax dodge incentives. My point isn’t in relation to EVs. It’s in relation to leasing v sheds.
However it’s not true.
I don’t have an ev because I want to save the planet or want to be frugal. My choice was based upon being able to get a 500+ bhp car for the same cost as my 2.0 tdi.
t. I’m comfortably off to be able to have whatever I want without morally or financially damaging myself. That’s just me but if someone else wants an old used car good on them. I also don’t drive an EV to save the planet as I generally couldn’t give two hoots demonstrated by my diesel 2022 Defender.If my financial circumstances took a turn for the worse I would buy whatever my budget allowed for. You pays your money you make your choice. If it’s not right for you don’t do it.
KingGary said:
Zj2002 said:
Mikebentley said:
Zj2002 said:
BricktopST205 said:
Zj2002 said:
Yes you could.
My point isn’t in relation to EVs. It’s in relation to leasing v sheds.
Okay but technically everyone is a mug in that respect as if getting from a) to b) as cheaply as possible (Kind of the point of an EV) then you are never going to be cheaper than a shed maintained by Kenneth on his drive not withstanding government tax dodge incentives. My point isn’t in relation to EVs. It’s in relation to leasing v sheds.
However it’s not true.
I don’t have an ev because I want to save the planet or want to be frugal. My choice was based upon being able to get a 500+ bhp car for the same cost as my 2.0 tdi.
t. I’m comfortably off to be able to have whatever I want without morally or financially damaging myself. That’s just me but if someone else wants an old used car good on them. I also don’t drive an EV to save the planet as I generally couldn’t give two hoots demonstrated by my diesel 2022 Defender.If my financial circumstances took a turn for the worse I would buy whatever my budget allowed for. You pays your money you make your choice. If it’s not right for you don’t do it.
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Sounds to me like you can’t afford to lease.
KingGary said:
GT9 said:
Absolutely right Gary.
All these mugs buying new cars when they could buy a newly-manufactured shed at a fraction of the cost.
Second-hand car manufacturers are two a penny on this planet.
The importance of the new car supply chain to the functioning of the second hand market is totally overblown, in fact no such relationship exists.
Not.
How is life in the 1990s ?All these mugs buying new cars when they could buy a newly-manufactured shed at a fraction of the cost.
Second-hand car manufacturers are two a penny on this planet.
The importance of the new car supply chain to the functioning of the second hand market is totally overblown, in fact no such relationship exists.
Not.
Zj2002 said:
KingGary said:
Zj2002 said:
Mikebentley said:
Zj2002 said:
BricktopST205 said:
Zj2002 said:
Yes you could.
My point isn’t in relation to EVs. It’s in relation to leasing v sheds.
Okay but technically everyone is a mug in that respect as if getting from a) to b) as cheaply as possible (Kind of the point of an EV) then you are never going to be cheaper than a shed maintained by Kenneth on his drive not withstanding government tax dodge incentives. My point isn’t in relation to EVs. It’s in relation to leasing v sheds.
However it’s not true.
I don’t have an ev because I want to save the planet or want to be frugal. My choice was based upon being able to get a 500+ bhp car for the same cost as my 2.0 tdi.
t. I’m comfortably off to be able to have whatever I want without morally or financially damaging myself. That’s just me but if someone else wants an old used car good on them. I also don’t drive an EV to save the planet as I generally couldn’t give two hoots demonstrated by my diesel 2022 Defender.If my financial circumstances took a turn for the worse I would buy whatever my budget allowed for. You pays your money you make your choice. If it’s not right for you don’t do it.
I appreciate this method isn’t popular amongst the empty fridge community on this thread.
Edited by KingGary on Saturday 18th May 17:26
Mikebentley said:
KingGary said:
GT9 said:
Absolutely right Gary.
All these mugs buying new cars when they could buy a newly-manufactured shed at a fraction of the cost.
Second-hand car manufacturers are two a penny on this planet.
The importance of the new car supply chain to the functioning of the second hand market is totally overblown, in fact no such relationship exists.
Not.
How is life in the 1990s ?All these mugs buying new cars when they could buy a newly-manufactured shed at a fraction of the cost.
Second-hand car manufacturers are two a penny on this planet.
The importance of the new car supply chain to the functioning of the second hand market is totally overblown, in fact no such relationship exists.
Not.
Second-hand car buyers slating new car buyers, either because of the way in which they purchase the car, or because of some misguided attack about carbon footprint are high on the stupid list.
Was trying to give Gary the hint to not be stupid.
Also he's mainly here to troll, so deserves the occasional prod with a fork.
Haven't bought a brand new car myself for 20 years, so nothing to do with personal circumstances either.
GT9 said:
Close, Monaros are early 2000s.
Second-hand car buyers slating new car buyers, either because of the way in which they purchase the car, or because of some misguided attack about carbon footprint are high on the stupid list.
Was trying to give Gary the hint to not be stupid.
Also he's mainly here to troll, so deserves the occasional prod with a fork.
Haven't bought a brand new car myself for 20 years, so nothing to do with personal circumstances either.
What?! I had assumed you were a powerfully built Director buying new EVs every 6 months.Second-hand car buyers slating new car buyers, either because of the way in which they purchase the car, or because of some misguided attack about carbon footprint are high on the stupid list.
Was trying to give Gary the hint to not be stupid.
Also he's mainly here to troll, so deserves the occasional prod with a fork.
Haven't bought a brand new car myself for 20 years, so nothing to do with personal circumstances either.
TX.
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Sounds to me like you can’t afford to lease.
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Think what you like, typically I buy cars new/ex-demonstrators for cash. Works for me as I don’t like debt.
I appreciate this method isn’t popular amongst the empty fridge community on this thread.
Edited by KingGary on Saturday 18th May 17:26
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I see you edited your post to add in your final sentence. That just to avoid any doubt that you are knob?
If you makes you feel better thinking that your fridge is fuller than others, crack on. Weird.
KingGary said:
Think what you like, typically I buy cars new/ex-demonstrators for cash. Works for me as I don’t like debt.
I appreciate this method isn’t popular amongst the empty fridge community on this thread.
And the sneering contempt for everyone who doesn’t do exactly what you do continues. I appreciate this method isn’t popular amongst the empty fridge community on this thread.
Edited by KingGary on Saturday 18th May 17:26
GT9 said:
Close, Monaros are early 2000s.
Second-hand car buyers slating new car buyers, either because of the way in which they purchase the car, or because of some misguided attack about carbon footprint are high on the stupid list.
Was trying to give Gary the hint to not be stupid.
Also he's mainly here to troll, so deserves the occasional prod with a fork.
Haven't bought a brand new car myself for 20 years, so nothing to do with personal circumstances either.
I’ve got no idea what you’re on about but carry on if it makes you happy.Second-hand car buyers slating new car buyers, either because of the way in which they purchase the car, or because of some misguided attack about carbon footprint are high on the stupid list.
Was trying to give Gary the hint to not be stupid.
Also he's mainly here to troll, so deserves the occasional prod with a fork.
Haven't bought a brand new car myself for 20 years, so nothing to do with personal circumstances either.
Zj2002 said:
I see you edited your post to add in your final sentence. That just to avoid any doubt that you are knob?
If you makes you feel better thinking that your fridge is fuller than others, crack on. Weird.
Well yes, that’s what the “edit” function is for. So it’s ok for you and that other bloke to say I cannot afford a new car, and must drive a shed, yet it’s not ok to correct you? I’ll take the moral high ground because at least I know how to use apostrophes.If you makes you feel better thinking that your fridge is fuller than others, crack on. Weird.
KingGary said:
Zj2002 said:
I see you edited your post to add in your final sentence. That just to avoid any doubt that you are knob?
If you makes you feel better thinking that your fridge is fuller than others, crack on. Weird.
Well yes, that’s what the “edit” function is for. So it’s ok for you and that other bloke to say I cannot afford a new car, and must drive a shed, yet it’s not ok to correct you? I’ll take the moral high ground because at least I know how to use apostrophes.If you makes you feel better thinking that your fridge is fuller than others, crack on. Weird.
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