Coffee. Grinder and Cafetiere or Pods in a machine

Coffee. Grinder and Cafetiere or Pods in a machine

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RichFN2

3,412 posts

180 months

Tuesday 30th April
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My Timemore C3s MAX will grind a cup worth in around 15 seconds with minimal effort, and 3 cups in around 30 seconds.

I suspect similar quality hand grinders are the same.

audi321

5,229 posts

214 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Hi coffee experts!

Fairly new to this thread, so apologies if it's been discussed before, and reading a bit of the posts, my coffee requirements are probably WELL below most people's standards on here. But.......here goes.

I have a petrol station opposite me and for the past 12 months, I must have spent a small fortune on their Costa Express machine. I know you'll laugh but I actually enjoy this coffee (no sugar just a cappuccino - is their milk sweetened - it kind of tastes a little sweeter).

Soooooooo...........I'm probably going to be shot down here, but what machine can I buy which will give me an equivalent cappuccino? I have no requirements other than IT MUST BE SIMPLE AND QUICK. I cannot be bothered with grinding my own beans, or steaming my own milk............I just want to press a button and walk away.

Given that I must have spent over £1,000 over the past year, my budget is £1,000. What do people recommend?

Edited by audi321 on Tuesday 30th April 12:40

Bonefish Blues

26,936 posts

224 months

Tuesday 30th April
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See my post on Saturday in response to a v similar Q. B2C machines really are very good nowadays. Not aficionado-goos, but easily good enough for the hoi polloi like me biggrin

audi321

5,229 posts

214 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Ah yes the Siemens ones, I will look into those as I've not seen them before.

Is it naive to think that I can get a similar taste to the Costa Express machine for £600?

Costa sell the beans directly don't they? Are they the same?

Bonefish Blues

26,936 posts

224 months

Tuesday 30th April
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No it's not, it will easily replicate what you've been used to (Siemens machine allows you to tailor to your preference & save settings - as do many machines) - but it will also give you access to an endless number of other beans with their own distinct flavours so most people do a bit of exploration when they get their machine.

madbadger

11,571 posts

245 months

Tuesday 30th April
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You can easily improve on Costa with some better beans. Their coffee is quite bitter. Better beans in a reasonable machine should do you well. I find lighter beans taste sweeter (and definitely don't need added sugar).


madbadger

11,571 posts

245 months

Tuesday 30th April
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C G said:
Has anyone got any experience with the Kingrinder K6?

I'm thinking of investing in a decent hand grinder as my current AliExpress one takes around 2 mins to grind fine enough for an Aero press flat white replica. That gets quite tedious.

I'd want something that ideally grinds in under a minute if possible and will be okay if I decide to get an espresso machine in future
I have a knock hand grinder that I use with my Areopress a s a portable set up. The grinder seems as good as my home grinder, but is a bit slower obvs.

The knock fits in the areopress so it makes a nice compact unit for camping / hotels.

Blown2CV

28,964 posts

204 months

Tuesday 30th April
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madbadger said:
You can easily improve on Costa with some better beans. Their coffee is quite bitter. Better beans in a reasonable machine should do you well. I find lighter beans taste sweeter (and definitely don't need added sugar).
On a partially related note, do you know that high street coffee chains vary hugely in their caffeine content?

audi321

5,229 posts

214 months

Tuesday 30th April
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madbadger said:
You can easily improve on Costa with some better beans. Their coffee is quite bitter. Better beans in a reasonable machine should do you well. I find lighter beans taste sweeter (and definitely don't need added sugar).
Thanks. So do we think that these costa express machines just use regular milk then? Not sweetened in any way?

dickymint

24,454 posts

259 months

Tuesday 30th April
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audi321 said:
madbadger said:
You can easily improve on Costa with some better beans. Their coffee is quite bitter. Better beans in a reasonable machine should do you well. I find lighter beans taste sweeter (and definitely don't need added sugar).
Thanks. So do we think that these costa express machines just use regular milk then? Not sweetened in any way?
I just had a quick look into this and they are trialling/offering alternatives here's just one random link............

https://www.worldcoffeeportal.com/Latest/News/2022...

You're best bet is to ask them when you buy your next one - they shouldn't have anything to hide:

PS. I went full out and bought a Jura Z10 BTC and it's superb in every respect thumbup

cslwannabe

1,423 posts

170 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Jura BTC here as SWMBO wanted something she’d be able to use, whereas I’d happily have had something a bit more ‘hands on’. Needless to say I still have to make all her drinks anyway…

I always order flat white when buying a coffee, but at home just drink regular coffee as without spending more than £25-30 a kilo, I’ve found a few really good options.

Baron Greenback

7,008 posts

151 months

Tuesday 30th April
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C5_Steve said:
Joe M said:
Check out 1zpresso for hand grinders. I've got the smallest one for my aeropress and it's very good.
Another vote for them, I've had one a while now and they're very good.
Love my JX Pro version build quality spot on

s2kjock

1,693 posts

148 months

Tuesday 30th April
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RichFN2 said:
My Timemore C3s MAX will grind a cup worth in around 15 seconds with minimal effort, and 3 cups in around 30 seconds.

I suspect similar quality hand grinders are the same.
Is that grinding for espresso?

I have a cheapo Amazon hand grinder and it seems to take about a few minutes for 18g of beans - it more or less does the job for my 9Barista, but it's hard work. Are proper, quality, hand grinders much faster?

jj2908

101 posts

117 months

Tuesday 30th April
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After consuming a lot of coffee and seeking the wisdom of the crowd here, Mrs JJ & I went full on Jura z10 BTC in January this year …. We haven’t looked back. We adore it

RichFN2

3,412 posts

180 months

Tuesday 30th April
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s2kjock said:
RichFN2 said:
My Timemore C3s MAX will grind a cup worth in around 15 seconds with minimal effort, and 3 cups in around 30 seconds.

I suspect similar quality hand grinders are the same.
Is that grinding for espresso?

I have a cheapo Amazon hand grinder and it seems to take about a few minutes for 18g of beans - it more or less does the job for my 9Barista, but it's hard work. Are proper, quality, hand grinders much faster?
I have mine set to about halfway on the dial which some would argue is too fine for a French press but that is how I prefer it.

I did try it on espresso grind a few times and it does take longer (probably 1 minute, maybe just over for 18g). However due to the design the handle just spins with minimal effort, dual bearing design that decent manual grinders use from what I understand.

Espresso grind is like powder, and very consistent. More details here:
https://www.timemore.com/products/timemore-chestnu...

s2kjock

1,693 posts

148 months

Sunday 5th May
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RichFN2 said:
I have mine set to about halfway on the dial which some would argue is too fine for a French press but that is how I prefer it.

I did try it on espresso grind a few times and it does take longer (probably 1 minute, maybe just over for 18g). However due to the design the handle just spins with minimal effort, dual bearing design that decent manual grinders use from what I understand.

Espresso grind is like powder, and very consistent. More details here:
https://www.timemore.com/products/timemore-chestnu...
Just timed my grind on my cheapo Amazon cylindrical hand grinder this morning and it was actually was almost 5 mins for 18g fine enough for espresso (about as fine as the grinder will go). That's a huge difference in time.

Knock are relatively local to me so I may have a look at their grinders as they have been recommended on here before IIRC. It's either that or man maths re cost and argument with OH about an electric single dose grinder which I think would do the same job in 15-20 seconds...............

272BHP

5,146 posts

237 months

Sunday 5th May
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s2kjock said:
Just timed my grind on my cheapo Amazon cylindrical hand grinder this morning and it was actually was almost 5 mins for 18g fine enough for espresso (about as fine as the grinder will go). That's a huge difference in time.

Knock are relatively local to me so I may have a look at their grinders as they have been recommended on here before IIRC. It's either that or man maths re cost and argument with OH about an electric single dose grinder which I think would do the same job in 15-20 seconds...............
The Knock was not great at espresso for me. 45s - 1 minute and sometimes it was hard going. Handle started to slip off after months of use and I had to get it fixed under warranty.

Swapping to a Niche was a blessed relief.

thepritch

622 posts

166 months

Sunday 5th May
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s2kjock said:
Just timed my grind on my cheapo Amazon cylindrical hand grinder this morning and it was actually was almost 5 mins for 18g fine enough for espresso (about as fine as the grinder will go). That's a huge difference in time.

Knock are relatively local to me so I may have a look at their grinders as they have been recommended on here before IIRC. It's either that or man maths re cost and argument with OH about an electric single dose grinder which I think would do the same job in 15-20 seconds...............
5mins!!!!!!

I love the routine and relaxed nature of making a coffee, sometimes more than the coffee, but think I’d baulk at 5mins!

You definitely need to do some man maths today smile

dickymint

24,454 posts

259 months

Sunday 5th May
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Often wonder if these Pepper Cannons would do the job........

https://mannkitchen.co.uk/

gareth h

3,569 posts

231 months

Sunday 5th May
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Anybody know where I could order these beans from (I used to buy it from my local Italian cafe but have moved away and am struggling to find it online, and nothing else hits the spot!)