2024 London Mayoral Election Thread

[SS427 Camaro]

“ A dynamic leader “ Anyone know what he is smoking ?

Edited by SS427 Camaro on Saturday 4th May 22:21

[valiant]

g4ry13 said:

valiant said:

g4ry13 said:

Didn't 40% turn out to vote? The majority didn't even vote!

That’s democracy for you. See also Brexit,

72% turnout for Brexit vote. That's actually bloody good!

Which meant that ‘only’ 37% out of the those eligible to vote voted for Brexit but as I said, that’s democracy for you. Khan won and has a mandate to lead and implement his manifesto. That’s also democracy for you.

[g4ry13]

valiant said:

g4ry13 said:

valiant said:

g4ry13 said:

Didn't 40% turn out to vote? The majority didn't even vote!

That’s democracy for you. See also Brexit,

72% turnout for Brexit vote. That's actually bloody good!

Which meant that ‘only’ 37% out of the those eligible to vote voted for Brexit but as I said, that’s democracy for you. Khan won and has a mandate to lead and implement his manifesto. That’s also democracy for you.

I'm aware how the voting system works. But the comment I responded to was this:

"the majority in London are reasonably happy with it all"

Seeing as the majority of London didn't even cast a vote then it's an incorrect statement.

[and31]

s1962a said:

and31 said:

He’s made an absolute mess of London -Ulez expansion? Very popular that ,and makes fk all difference to air quality. Wished I’d never have to set foot there again, but unfortunately sometimes I have to work there.
20mph zones-another blinding idea.

Is the 20mph thing something Khan implemented? I fkin hate these 20mph zones and thought it was the local councils and not the mayor?

Well done though - you are one of the few posters who can actually articulate why Khan is a bad choice for mayor of London using facts, rather than disliking him because of his race, religion or a mumsnet type emotional feeling of why he's "a bad man".

For me he's the least worst out of him and the Tory bigot, and he really needs to do more for London. Crime, antisocial behaviour, and the cost of housing/living.

“Needs to do more for London.Crime,antisocial behaviour and the cost of housing /living”

He’s already had two terms as mayor-he doesn’t seem to have done much about crime as far as I can see..

[CoolHands]

It’s the government’s fault

[119]

and31 said:

s1962a said:

and31 said:

He’s made an absolute mess of London -Ulez expansion? Very popular that ,and makes fk all difference to air quality. Wished I’d never have to set foot there again, but unfortunately sometimes I have to work there.
20mph zones-another blinding idea.

Is the 20mph thing something Khan implemented? I fkin hate these 20mph zones and thought it was the local councils and not the mayor?

Well done though - you are one of the few posters who can actually articulate why Khan is a bad choice for mayor of London using facts, rather than disliking him because of his race, religion or a mumsnet type emotional feeling of why he's "a bad man".

For me he's the least worst out of him and the Tory bigot, and he really needs to do more for London. Crime, antisocial behaviour, and the cost of housing/living.

“Needs to do more for London.Crime,antisocial behaviour and the cost of housing /living”

He’s already had two terms as mayor-he doesn’t seem to have done much about crime as far as I can see..

Be interesting to see who he blames if Labour take charge.

[OutInTheShed]

g4ry13 said:

I'm aware how the voting system works. But the comment I responded to was this:

"the majority in London are reasonably happy with it all"

Seeing as the majority of London didn't even cast a vote then it's an incorrect statement.

The majority were apparently not sufficiently upset to get off their collective bum and vote against.
Some would call that 'reasonably happy with it all'.

Apathy rools.

[oyster]

and31 said:

Randy Winkman said:

and31 said:

p1stonhead said:

Will be very interesting to see what Khan will/can get done when he (very likely) has a friendly Labour government alongside him. He’s only ever had an opposition one so far.

Pay per mile will be next.All the mugs that voted for him thinking that they are immune from stuff like this because they don’t drive will soon be complaining -Sainsbury’s and Tesco’s etc(and any company that operates in our cesspit capital city)will just pass the cost on to the customer-

All of us? Perhaps lots wont care because it wont be a problem for us? Or perhaps he wont do it because he has said he wont more than once?

He’s made an absolute mess of London -Ulez expansion? Very popular that ,and makes fk all difference to air quality. Wished I’d never have to set foot there again, but unfortunately sometimes I have to work there.
20mph zones-another blinding idea.

Edited by and31 on Saturday 4th May 21:17

You do realise that most people in big cities don't drive right?

So 20mph zones and low emissions zones will be vote winners not losers.

[scenario8]

I think it’s fair to appreciate Londoners whose lives are based in Zones 1, 2 and 3 on the whole have a different relationship with the car to those whose lives are centred in zones 4, 5, 6 and on the Greater London bordering areas. That’s been spoken about quite a lot on these pages especially surrounding the ULEZ expansion project.

[scenario8]

In the end the election was a fairly straightforward and comfortable win for Sadiq Khan. Entirely as expected. It’s not obvious where any element of jeopardy came into it if I’m honest!

I was having a discussion this afternoon about the elections and Sadiq Khan with a family member who stayed in politics long after I became disillusioned and left the scene. He (Khan) is no longer such a spring chicken. What do we think he might do at the end of this term? We couldn’t quite see where he might go from here. Not in national politics anyway. Not that we have a crystal ball, of course. And a week is a long time in politics yadda yadda. The Lords was thought of as a possible next step. Who knows?

[twister]

oyster said:

You do realise that most people in big cities don't drive right?

So 20mph zones and low emissions zones will be vote winners not losers.

You do realise that the "London" he's the mayor of is more than just the big city central area, right? This is the crux of the friction between Khan's one size fits all policies and those of us in Outer London who very much do NOT live in a big city and really don't appreciate being treated by him as if we were.

You actually sound remarkably like Khan here - he's regularly used the fact that the majority of London households (i.e. every household across the entirety of Greater London) don't own cars as justification for his policies even though he was being questioned about thise policies in the context of outer London specifically, where households who don't own cars are very much in the minority. When you're the mayor of such a large and varied area, hiding behind the whole-area average stats rather than acknowledging the stats that apply to the specific areas you're being asked about makes him come across as rather unconvincing and evasive to anyone who knows the truth, yet gives him the veneer of acceptability to those who just take him at his word and assume he must know what he's talking about.

[JagLover]

scenario8 said:

I think it’s fair to appreciate Londoners whose lives are based in Zones 1, 2 and 3 on the whole have a different relationship with the car to those whose lives are centred in zones 4, 5, 6 and on the Greater London bordering areas. That’s been spoken about quite a lot on these pages especially surrounding the ULEZ expansion project.

This

Life in the outer suburbs is fairly similar to the provincial towns, just worse roads and heavier traffic, and strange speed limits at times.

[JagLover]

s1962a said:

Is the 20mph thing something Khan implemented? I fkin hate these 20mph zones and thought it was the local councils and not the mayor?

Yep it was Khan

https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/car-industry-news...

[Randy Winkman]

OutInTheShed said:

g4ry13 said:

I'm aware how the voting system works. But the comment I responded to was this:

"the majority in London are reasonably happy with it all"

Seeing as the majority of London didn't even cast a vote then it's an incorrect statement.

The majority were apparently not sufficiently upset to get off their collective bum and vote against.
Some would call that 'reasonably happy with it all'.

Apathy rools.

Exactly - thanks for saying it for me. I was not incorrect.

[coetzeeh]

Anything Boris touched slowly turns into shiite.

[911Spanker]

Cars are driven by rich people.

Rich people should be heavily taxed.

[Dave200]

Anyone predicting that Hall would win this needs their head read.

[Billy_Rosewood]

911Spanker said:

Cars are driven by rich people.

Rich people should be heavily taxed.

Thankfully even Khan's thinking isn't as simplistic and binary as some of the views on here.

[NerveAgent]

Dave200 said:

Anyone predicting that Hall would win this needs their head read.

I think it was just “sources tell me” click bait from the the press, realising there was some quick cash from hopium and delusion.

[Randy Winkman]

Billy_Rosewood said:

911Spanker said:

Cars are driven by rich people.

Rich people should be heavily taxed.

Thankfully even Khan's thinking isn't as simplistic and binary as some of the views on here.

And in the case of ULEZ they already have compliant cars.