Official 2024 Miami Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

[g4ry13]

The track must have warmed up or wind picked up. Nobody went faster on the last runs.

[Adrian W]

The track must have gone away

[PlywoodPascal]

I wish it would go away

[moorx]

PlywoodPascal said:

I wish it would go away

[732NM]

732NM said:

It's so random he'll probably be 10th now.

Wasn't far off, 8th.

[Adrian W]

PlywoodPascal said:

I wish it would go away

Imagine how bad it's going to be tomorrow

[TheDeuce]

This circuit is a total head fk for sure.

And yet... There's something I like about it. I think it's probably that each lap is a little unpredictable. Also definitely the sense of speed and direction changes.

I can't stand the location or the locals though. And COTA is still easily my favourite of the US circuits.

[asfault]

that last corner as so many are on modern f1 tracks are all early apexs. instead if you mde them late apexs ie tightens on the way out youd get alot more dives up the inside.

Thought Mag should have been blck flagged for the off the road coming back on and hitting Lewis.
Im all for hard driving but if you are just going to throw yourself the wolfs of penaties it is unfair on everyone else.

[Leithen]

Are HAAS and Magnussen’s repeated breaches of the sporting regulations, done with the clear intent to give his teammate a sporting advantage, any different in principle to that of Singapore 2008 with Renault and Nelson Piquet Jnr?

[PhilAsia]

Leithen said:

Are HAAS and Magnussen’s repeated breaches of the sporting regulations, done with the clear intent to give his teammate a sporting advantage, any different in principle to that of Singapore 2008 with Renault and Nelson Piquet Jnr?

It would be a bit of a slippery slope of a ruling - although I agree somewhat. The problem is, Checo made a great defense for Max in AD 2021 compared to KMag's Magoo Moments, and, the stewarding is already pants as it is right now, so to give them more opportunity to rig the results would be a backward step.

[llewop]

PhilAsia said:

Leithen said:

Are HAAS and Magnussen’s repeated breaches of the sporting regulations, done with the clear intent to give his teammate a sporting advantage, any different in principle to that of Singapore 2008 with Renault and Nelson Piquet Jnr?

It would be a bit of a slippery slope of a ruling - although I agree somewhat. The problem is, Checo made a great defense for Max in AD 2021 compared to KMag's Magoo Moments, and, the stewarding is already pants as it is right now, so to give them more opportunity to rig the results would be a backward step.

So the stewards have fudged it by allowing Magnussen to confirm he was deliberately driving unfairly, but because each offence was individually punished, that's fine.

I don't think there should be a slippery slope, what Checo did, and Magnussen previously, were (mostly) within the rules and did not attract penalties. But if you are needing to drive unfairly, going off-track, blocking and punting to achieve your scheme, then that shouldn't be something that is brushed away or it could lead to accidents caused by the desperation to continue to block/impede or by a desperate attempt to pass the tt.

It is all unsporting and unsightly, but if it is within the regulations on 'fair' driving then it is difficult to police and probably tolerable.

[HocusPocus]

Who would be a fan of Haas if that is how the team races? Embarrassing even to have to defend an unsporting charge. KMag got away with it simply because the standard required to prove is so high; and stewards bottled calling him a cheat.

Love to watch assertive defensive racing...but only within the boundaries of acceptable driving standards.

[paulguitar]

I saw Magnussen described last night on Twitter as 'Verstappen without Newey equipment'.

[Pedaller]

paulguitar said:

I saw Magnussen described last night on Twitter as 'Verstappen without Newey equipment'.

Spot on that. Exactly the same, but the difference is Mag is getting penalties for it.

[paulguitar]

Pedaller said:

paulguitar said:

I saw Magnussen described last night on Twitter as 'Verstappen without Newey equipment'.

Spot on that. Exactly the same, but the difference is Mag is getting penalties for it.

I think there was an element of facetiousness in it, but it was still amusing.

[Tim the pool man]

A bit late joining in as the races are on at stupid o'clock in the morning here (given that the US is 12 hours and 100 years behind us )

How the hell did hamilton not get at least a drive through penalty for taking 3 cars out at the first corner?! I've seen almost universal agreement on most global F1 fora (but don't expect the same here lol). Good to see KMag handing out some vigilante justice though

[NRS]

Mr Tom said:

g4ry13 said:

See you for the race tomorrow

Haha spot on… every time I hope and believe it will be better but it never is….

Fingers crossed (again) for a different outcome

I’ve stopped bothering, not easy at first but it gives you a lot of extra time back you can use for other stuff which is more interesting. It’s tricky to get out of the habit after many years of watching, but when it comes to it there’s nothing great to watch for the most part, and even if there is some on the limit racing half the time the decisions doesn’t come down to the rules but what makes the championship most exciting, so it’s just not feeling so worth spending the time on it.

[732NM]

Tim the pool man said:

A bit late joining in as the races are on at stupid o'clock in the morning here (given that the US is 12 hours and 100 years behind us )

How the hell did hamilton not get at least a drive through penalty for taking 3 cars out at the first corner?! I've seen almost universal agreement on most global F1 fora (but don't expect the same here lol). Good to see KMag handing out some vigilante justice though

Probably because Stroll caused half the issue and it was a first corner incident that is always given more leeway.

Why Magnussen wasn't black flagged is more of a query, but then driving people off track or hitting them deliberately seems OK these days.

F1 is pantomime now.

[PhilAsia]

NRS said:

Mr Tom said:

g4ry13 said:

See you for the race tomorrow

Haha spot on… every time I hope and believe it will be better but it never is….

Fingers crossed (again) for a different outcome

I’ve stopped bothering, not easy at first but it gives you a lot of extra time back you can use for other stuff which is more interesting. It’s tricky to get out of the habit after many years of watching, but when it comes to it there’s nothing great to watch for the most part, and even if there is some on the limit racing half the time the decisions doesn’t come down to the rules but what makes the championship most exciting, so it’s just not feeling so worth spending the time on it.

Same here. Got the roof, flashing and gutter done, plumbing imbalance (bird's nest in the vent and coral(why?) in the S bend), all the rest of the original cowboy builder's crap, and currently working on the garage drive slope, to get it to an angle that a car can enter without bottoming out - all Philippines' "least I could do" problems/solutions, but ably assisted by a steep learning curve on YouTubby and extra time on the weekends due to only bothering mostly with the highlights.

[Smollet]

732NM said:

Why Magnussen wasn't black flagged is more of a query, but then driving people off track or hitting them deliberately seems OK these days.

Goes back to when Senna did it and was never penalised. It's not a new phenomenon