GTS 4.0 Engine Failure
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Hi,
Just to let you know …..
My November 22 GTS suffered catastrophic engine failure on Easter Sunday.
I have never had to have any vehicle recovered in forty years of driving, so it was a pretty shocking experience.
I knew straight away that things were bad, not the water pump failure suggested by the recovery guys.
My dealer is pushing for a new engine, rather than stripping and rebuilding.
To add to the fun, I will make my third hour and a half round trip in a week to collect my third courtesy car on Monday ……
It really couldn’t be worse, I’m utterly cheesed off!!
Just to let you know …..
My November 22 GTS suffered catastrophic engine failure on Easter Sunday.
I have never had to have any vehicle recovered in forty years of driving, so it was a pretty shocking experience.
I knew straight away that things were bad, not the water pump failure suggested by the recovery guys.
My dealer is pushing for a new engine, rather than stripping and rebuilding.
To add to the fun, I will make my third hour and a half round trip in a week to collect my third courtesy car on Monday ……
It really couldn’t be worse, I’m utterly cheesed off!!
Ken986 said:
Terrible news , do you mind sharing mileage and the circumstances of the failure ?
The car had only covered 6000 miles and had never been tracked - always driven properly, carefully warmed up to normal operating temperature and driven with mechanical sympathy - a brilliant car to drive.Cruising home at 40mph in a line of cars, I heard a ticking/knocking sound from the front of the engine, so stopped within seconds in a lay-by.
On exiting the car, I noticed a burning smell from the engine. The temperature was its usual 90 degrees though. A yellow exclamation mark was displayed in the instrument cluster.
I knew straight away it was game over - the car was recovered to Porsche and metal fragments have been found in the engine.
I’m currently waiting to hear the exact cause.
Quite a few oil pump failures on Rennlist but these are on earlier build cars.
I'd like to think that Porsche will authorise a new engine given the Tech has found metal parts in the oil. The risk of another failure or damage would be too great for them not to. For interest, a new 4.0 for the 718 is ~£37k.
I'd like to think that Porsche will authorise a new engine given the Tech has found metal parts in the oil. The risk of another failure or damage would be too great for them not to. For interest, a new 4.0 for the 718 is ~£37k.
scrounger73 said:
I'd like to think that Porsche will authorise a new engine given the Tech has found metal parts in the oil.
Irrespective of what bits have gone where if that were my car I would want a new engine.There is no way a dealer can assemble an engine to the same standard as the factory can and why should any owner of a car still under the original warranty have to settle for that.
Sheepshanks said:
Why are you being messed around with courtesy cars - do they keep upgrading you? If it’s handled by Porsche Assist they’re supposed to be delivered.
The original car was supplied by Porsche UK, but apparently charges are incurred after five days. So the dealer, on realising my car would be off the road for some time, gave me one of their own cars (a 2019 Macan, with a ding at the back, missing dust caps, non-matching plates, an empty screen wash reservoir and ACC that didn’t work) which not too surprisingly developed a fault and had to be checked out by another dealer when I was up in The Wirral. They picked up on a brake servo and vacuum issue, and a problem with a headlight. I had already mentioned the long travel in the pedal and the fright I got when I first tried to stop it! So I will be given a third car tomorrow, presumably another Macan.My car was in showroom condition (unmarked wheels, no dings or scratches) and I worry about its condition on return to me eventually.
Really fed up, reflecting on the wisdom of making such a large cash purchase ….
Jazzer said:
The car had only covered 6000 miles and had never been tracked - always driven properly, carefully warmed up to normal operating temperature and driven with mechanical sympathy - a brilliant car to drive.
Cruising home at 40mph in a line of cars, I heard a ticking/knocking sound from the front of the engine, so stopped within seconds in a lay-by.
On exiting the car, I noticed a burning smell from the engine. The temperature was its usual 90 degrees though. A yellow exclamation mark was displayed in the instrument cluster.
I knew straight away it was game over - the car was recovered to Porsche and metal fragments have been found in the engine.
I’m currently waiting to hear the exact cause.
Could be the result of your wife secretly racing male drivers in the occasional traffic light Grand Prix ? Cruising home at 40mph in a line of cars, I heard a ticking/knocking sound from the front of the engine, so stopped within seconds in a lay-by.
On exiting the car, I noticed a burning smell from the engine. The temperature was its usual 90 degrees though. A yellow exclamation mark was displayed in the instrument cluster.
I knew straight away it was game over - the car was recovered to Porsche and metal fragments have been found in the engine.
I’m currently waiting to hear the exact cause.
Blown head gasket perhaps ...
Discombobulate said:
Do not let Porsche suggest rebuild (they sometimes do - and did for ours at 7500 miles and 1 year old until we fought hard).
Stand your ground for a complete new engine.
but but, then its no longer a matching numbers car.Stand your ground for a complete new engine.
not that such would trouble me much, but it can be for some.
Jazzer said:
Slippydiff said:
Could be the result of your wife secretly racing male drivers in the occasional traffic light Grand Prix ?
Blown head gasket perhaps ...
That made me laugh!!Blown head gasket perhaps ...
She doesn’t drive my car though!
Slightly creepy post - you actually went digging, didn’t you?!
Remembered the username whilst browsing this morning, but you're not a regular around these parts, then I remembered the "Written off Golf R" thread (too much time spent on PH during Covid)
scrounger73 said:
Quite a few oil pump failures on Rennlist but these are on earlier build cars.
I'd like to think that Porsche will authorise a new engine given the Tech has found metal parts in the oil….
I had one of those. 538 miles and at 15mph. Death rattle from engine and immediate stop. Diagnosis was oil pump seized, simplex chain to pump snapped. Flailing chain got caught in timing chain. Duplex timing chain snapped. Valves hit pistons etc.I'd like to think that Porsche will authorise a new engine given the Tech has found metal parts in the oil….
OPC was all for rebuilding on site, but after some pressure and the tech also finding shiny bits in the oil throughout the engine, I ended up with a new long engine.
Off road for about 5 weeks IIRC, had various Enterprise Audis as hire cars.
5 days after getting it back, was just a the exit of Santander ferry port after a 24 hour boat journey and it dropped all its water on the floor instantly when the Henn connection in the water pipe behind the FR wheel arch liner came apart after not being refitted correctly by the OPC
https://www.henn.at/en/products/hcwater … the spring clip was in only one slot and Porsche don’t use the pictured version that has the black locking collar
Edited by MM57 on Monday 8th April 10:01
GTRene said:
but but, then its no longer a matching numbers car.
not that such would trouble me much, but it can be for some.
Matters not a jot on a cooking 997. Or won’t anytime soon. not that such would trouble me much, but it can be for some.
Plus engine change for factory replacement is recorded and in V5. Car no longer ours but we still have a 997, albeit with a Hartech 4.1.
Most 991 GT3 owners look for non matching numbers
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