Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 22]
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donkmeister said:
martynr said:
Ad seems honest... I always have more faith in a seller who points out faults. Sounds like it's had a prang though, and being in the trade (looking at the unit in the picture) he knows it has. I think I would be a nay. If it's had a smack and not quite been repaired it could end up bothersome.
Like you say, ad looks honest. The massive bork potential though with this type of car but not necessarily this car per se, makes it a nay. Chap nearby has had a S8 for the best part of a decade. Looks the business even at fifteen years old.
Boom. Cured covid didn’t he?
And for the haters here he is back in the day promoting dettox
https://youtu.be/mnKh3g751mQ
And for the haters here he is back in the day promoting dettox
https://youtu.be/mnKh3g751mQ
nobrakes said:
biggbn said:
The Count said:
Had a 2.5td one of these, vast, quick, comfy, frugal....330k miles, one owner....who said citroens were unreliable? Brilliant, brilliant thing 
Plus owned by a prominent virologist, OOOOOH!
The Count said:
Can't remember the last time I saw a V6 estate. I want it.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126457879353
White goods.
"This isn't a retirement home, this is a barge meet"
"Check the floor mats"
"1MF engine, no s
t!"Okay, I see community was not happy with my offering. So, after a hard look I found this. The more desirable little wheels as well! So not just rubber bands could be fitted, but affroad as well and that porkie could be beaten that someone bought for under thread. Unfairly for sure! Also at almost thread minimum.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176361035137?mkcid=16&a...
In all honest I think vendor is rather too optimistic with the price on this.
Ps.: what wheels are they? E39?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176361035137?mkcid=16&a...
In all honest I think vendor is rather too optimistic with the price on this.
Ps.: what wheels are they? E39?
W00DY said:
Can't remember the last time I saw a V6 estate. I want it.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126457879353
White goods.
"This isn't a retirement home, this is a barge meet"
"Check the floor mats"
"1MF engine, no st!"
Did they import this from Australia? Very odd. Interior looks rather worn for 60k imo. The Galant I had was in much better state with 175k than this.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126457879353
White goods.
"This isn't a retirement home, this is a barge meet"
"Check the floor mats"
"1MF engine, no s
t!"I know this will send a few shivers down a few necks, but has anyone worked out the costs of running a £1k to £5k smoker barge as their daily driver at 10,000 miles or so a year?
I've got to know when managed retreat has to come to an end, so after 3 and a half glorious years and 31,000 miles in the supercharged aural delight of a Jaguar XF SV8 of this parish, my smoker barge has been sold to my 'The Man', who has kept her on the road fairly economically, but I was potentially looking at needing to spend a few thousand pounds with no guarantee of staying on the road.
My costs during this time were:
£23.6k in total
Or
£6.5k per year
Or
76p per mile
And do you know what? it was worth every penny, so thanks to those on this thread.
I've got to know when managed retreat has to come to an end, so after 3 and a half glorious years and 31,000 miles in the supercharged aural delight of a Jaguar XF SV8 of this parish, my smoker barge has been sold to my 'The Man', who has kept her on the road fairly economically, but I was potentially looking at needing to spend a few thousand pounds with no guarantee of staying on the road.
My costs during this time were:
£23.6k in total
Or
£6.5k per year
Or
76p per mile
And do you know what? it was worth every penny, so thanks to those on this thread.
thepeoplespal said:
I know this will send a few shivers down a few necks, but has anyone worked out the costs of running a £1k to £5k smoker barge as their daily driver at 10,000 miles or so a year?
I've got to know when managed retreat has to come to an end, so after 3 and a half glorious years and 31,000 miles in the supercharged aural delight of a Jaguar XF SV8 of this parish, my smoker barge has been sold to my 'The Man', who has kept her on the road fairly economically, but I was potentially looking at needing to spend a few thousand pounds with no guarantee of staying on the road.
My costs during this time were:
£23.6k in total
Or
£6.5k per year
Or
76p per mile
And do you know what? it was worth every penny, so thanks to those on this thread.
Wonder what the equivalent lease would've been.I've got to know when managed retreat has to come to an end, so after 3 and a half glorious years and 31,000 miles in the supercharged aural delight of a Jaguar XF SV8 of this parish, my smoker barge has been sold to my 'The Man', who has kept her on the road fairly economically, but I was potentially looking at needing to spend a few thousand pounds with no guarantee of staying on the road.
My costs during this time were:
£23.6k in total
Or
£6.5k per year
Or
76p per mile
And do you know what? it was worth every penny, so thanks to those on this thread.
thepeoplespal said:
I know this will send a few shivers down a few necks, but has anyone worked out the costs of running a £1k to £5k smoker barge as their daily driver at 10,000 miles or so a year?
I've got to know when managed retreat has to come to an end, so after 3 and a half glorious years and 31,000 miles in the supercharged aural delight of a Jaguar XF SV8 of this parish, my smoker barge has been sold to my 'The Man', who has kept her on the road fairly economically, but I was potentially looking at needing to spend a few thousand pounds with no guarantee of staying on the road.
My costs during this time were:
£23.6k in total
Or
£6.5k per year
Or
76p per mile
And do you know what? it was worth every penny, so thanks to those on this thread.
So £541 a month. Does that include insurance, tax, fuel?I've got to know when managed retreat has to come to an end, so after 3 and a half glorious years and 31,000 miles in the supercharged aural delight of a Jaguar XF SV8 of this parish, my smoker barge has been sold to my 'The Man', who has kept her on the road fairly economically, but I was potentially looking at needing to spend a few thousand pounds with no guarantee of staying on the road.
My costs during this time were:
£23.6k in total
Or
£6.5k per year
Or
76p per mile
And do you know what? it was worth every penny, so thanks to those on this thread.
The absolute best ICE leasing deal right now on LeaseLoco for a family-ish car is some clearance special on a Vauxhall Grandland 1.2 Turbo on a 12 months upfront, 18 month deal at £194.05. That works out as £5,821.50 over 18 months, or £323 a month. 10k deal.
Add on fuel, insurance, RFL and you're probably at £450 a month to drive a Grandland 1.2 Turbo.
The discomfort with running an old car, particularly a barge, is in cashflow rather than outright costs I think; it might have a year of no direct costs but then land you with a £2k bill. Most people can't or don't want to ever have to cough up £2k at a days notice, they find it easier to pay out (substantially) more but in a predictable fashion.
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Sunday 5th May 09:04
GeniusOfLove said:
So £541 a month. Does that include insurance, tax, fuel?
The absolute best ICE leasing deal right now on LeaseLoco for a family-ish car is some clearance special on a Vauxhall Grandland 1.2 Turbo on a 12 months upfront, 18 month deal at £194.05. That works out as £5,821.50 over 18 months, or £323 a month. 10k deal.
Add on fuel, insurance, RFL and you're probably at £450 a month to drive a Grandland 1.2 Turbo.
The discomfort with running an old car, particularly a barge, is in cashflow rather than outright costs I think; it might have a year of no direct costs but then land you with a £2k bill. Most people can't or don't want to ever have to cough up £2k at a days notice, they find it easier to pay out (substantially) more but in a predictable fashion.
Yeah agree.The absolute best ICE leasing deal right now on LeaseLoco for a family-ish car is some clearance special on a Vauxhall Grandland 1.2 Turbo on a 12 months upfront, 18 month deal at £194.05. That works out as £5,821.50 over 18 months, or £323 a month. 10k deal.
Add on fuel, insurance, RFL and you're probably at £450 a month to drive a Grandland 1.2 Turbo.
The discomfort with running an old car, particularly a barge, is in cashflow rather than outright costs I think; it might have a year of no direct costs but then land you with a £2k bill. Most people can't or don't want to ever have to cough up £2k at a days notice, they find it easier to pay out (substantially) more but in a predictable fashion.
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Sunday 5th May 09:04
You've added in a couple of things that we'd need to clarify whether they're included in the £541pm such as fuel, insurance and RFL to make the comparison accurate.
As if it's not then the possibilities get significantly better.
AlexNJ89 said:
GeniusOfLove said:
So £541 a month. Does that include insurance, tax, fuel?
The absolute best ICE leasing deal right now on LeaseLoco for a family-ish car is some clearance special on a Vauxhall Grandland 1.2 Turbo on a 12 months upfront, 18 month deal at £194.05. That works out as £5,821.50 over 18 months, or £323 a month. 10k deal.
Add on fuel, insurance, RFL and you're probably at £450 a month to drive a Grandland 1.2 Turbo.
The discomfort with running an old car, particularly a barge, is in cashflow rather than outright costs I think; it might have a year of no direct costs but then land you with a £2k bill. Most people can't or don't want to ever have to cough up £2k at a days notice, they find it easier to pay out (substantially) more but in a predictable fashion.
Yeah agree.The absolute best ICE leasing deal right now on LeaseLoco for a family-ish car is some clearance special on a Vauxhall Grandland 1.2 Turbo on a 12 months upfront, 18 month deal at £194.05. That works out as £5,821.50 over 18 months, or £323 a month. 10k deal.
Add on fuel, insurance, RFL and you're probably at £450 a month to drive a Grandland 1.2 Turbo.
The discomfort with running an old car, particularly a barge, is in cashflow rather than outright costs I think; it might have a year of no direct costs but then land you with a £2k bill. Most people can't or don't want to ever have to cough up £2k at a days notice, they find it easier to pay out (substantially) more but in a predictable fashion.
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Sunday 5th May 09:04
You've added in a couple of things that we'd need to clarify whether they're included in the £541pm such as fuel, insurance and RFL to make the comparison accurate.
As if it's not then the possibilities get significantly better.
And car finance is not so cheap any more either:
Am I the only one who see that advert and thinks "Foxtrot Oscar" (in our house that translates as "not bloody likely", for those who don't use the NATO phonetic alphabet)
Edited by QBee on Sunday 5th May 11:50
Why did you have to bring this subject up?
I just worked out that in the nearly three years I've had mine I've done about 11,000 miles, with tax at £395 a year and insurance at an average of £600 a year, and spending about £600 on MOT and repairs per year including the bill I'm about to get, it's just shy of 70p a mile.
I should probably do more miles in it, that would be the solution.
I just worked out that in the nearly three years I've had mine I've done about 11,000 miles, with tax at £395 a year and insurance at an average of £600 a year, and spending about £600 on MOT and repairs per year including the bill I'm about to get, it's just shy of 70p a mile.
I should probably do more miles in it, that would be the solution.
GeniusOfLove said:
thepeoplespal said:
I know this will send a few shivers down a few necks, but has anyone worked out the costs of running a £1k to £5k smoker barge as their daily driver at 10,000 miles or so a year?
I've got to know when managed retreat has to come to an end, so after 3 and a half glorious years and 31,000 miles in the supercharged aural delight of a Jaguar XF SV8 of this parish, my smoker barge has been sold to my 'The Man', who has kept her on the road fairly economically, but I was potentially looking at needing to spend a few thousand pounds with no guarantee of staying on the road.
My costs during this time were:
£23.6k in total
Or
£6.5k per year
Or
76p per mile
And do you know what? it was worth every penny, so thanks to those on this thread.
So £541 a month. Does that include insurance, tax, fuel?I've got to know when managed retreat has to come to an end, so after 3 and a half glorious years and 31,000 miles in the supercharged aural delight of a Jaguar XF SV8 of this parish, my smoker barge has been sold to my 'The Man', who has kept her on the road fairly economically, but I was potentially looking at needing to spend a few thousand pounds with no guarantee of staying on the road.
My costs during this time were:
£23.6k in total
Or
£6.5k per year
Or
76p per mile
And do you know what? it was worth every penny, so thanks to those on this thread.
The absolute best ICE leasing deal right now on LeaseLoco for a family-ish car is some clearance special on a Vauxhall Grandland 1.2 Turbo on a 12 months upfront, 18 month deal at £194.05. That works out as £5,821.50 over 18 months, or £323 a month. 10k deal.
Add on fuel, insurance, RFL and you're probably at £450 a month to drive a Grandland 1.2 Turbo.
Snipped........
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Sunday 5th May 09:04
I have just pulled the trigger on a brand new barge sized SUV - Nissan Ayriya 87kWh battery 329 mile (ok 240) range via salary sacrifice for £407 absolutely all in for 10,000 miles and 36 months. Electric charger would need to added to that though.
It was the perhaps £3k I was going to need to drop on fixing it in the next few months that was the step too far that made me jump :-( Will perhaps save for a weekend barge.
I think if you can be disciplined to put aside £50-100 per month for repairs and maintenance you should be OK overall, though there may be an L322 exception to that which I have yet to encounter.
I find that using the CL and SL on a regular basis keeps the gremlins (mostly) at bay, as they hate sitting around, so to that end I've been going into the office 3-4 days a week.
I find that using the CL and SL on a regular basis keeps the gremlins (mostly) at bay, as they hate sitting around, so to that end I've been going into the office 3-4 days a week.
I last went into the office regularly in June .....1992.
I was ahead of the (COVID) times, as I have been working from home since then.
Dogs needing walking keeps my sheds running smoothly - the nearest proper dog walk is 10-15 minutes away.
I agree - all cars need to be driven regularly to stay running smoothly, and a motorway trip once a month helps too.
I was ahead of the (COVID) times, as I have been working from home since then.
Dogs needing walking keeps my sheds running smoothly - the nearest proper dog walk is 10-15 minutes away.
I agree - all cars need to be driven regularly to stay running smoothly, and a motorway trip once a month helps too.
I'm on the lookout for a practical daily, I like things that are unique and aren't just German PCP fodder.
Something like an Alfa Romeo Stelvio, Volvo XC60 or F-Pace at around the £20k mark.
Then I look at old Barges and Sheds and get excited, but how far down do you need to go to make it a better financial decision than the more modern cars?
Spend anything like £12k on an older barge and you're in the territory where it could go either way on whether an L322, LS460, 7-series etc are going to be better value for money than the cars listed above.
I think a barge needs to be £7k or less to make it less costly to own than the above cars. That's taking in to account depreciation, fuel. maintenance and repairs.
Something like an Alfa Romeo Stelvio, Volvo XC60 or F-Pace at around the £20k mark.
Then I look at old Barges and Sheds and get excited, but how far down do you need to go to make it a better financial decision than the more modern cars?
Spend anything like £12k on an older barge and you're in the territory where it could go either way on whether an L322, LS460, 7-series etc are going to be better value for money than the cars listed above.
I think a barge needs to be £7k or less to make it less costly to own than the above cars. That's taking in to account depreciation, fuel. maintenance and repairs.
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