Mir's Garage - Supercars, old cars, and wagons

Mir's Garage - Supercars, old cars, and wagons

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mirsgarage

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249 posts

20 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Thanks guys!

GCCP said:
Love the Pista! there is nothing quite like that "Ferrari Feeling" - nothing feels close to it, you just have to try it to understand

Curious though, how come you had it sent from Meridien to Carrs instead of direct to you?

GP
Yeah, those Italians know how to build a damn fine car, that's for sure.

This is a bit of a.. weird/soppy story I guess. I don't want to seem like an idiot but also, primarily, I am big on karma and "what goes around comes around". Many, many moons ago my startup wasn't going so great and things seemed pretty bleak, I was more or less on the brink of calling it a day and quitting, having expended most of the money I had. I decided to go down to Carrs (back when they had the older building across the road from MB) completely out of the blue to remind myself what I was aspiring towards. In my mind spending a bit of time around these cars would inspire me and give me a little kick up the backside. Back then the F12 was brand-spankin new. They were so kind. I made it clear to them, I'm having a tough time in life - things aren't great, and I just wanted to remind myself of "the dream". I got handed the keys to the F12 demo and told to spend as much time as I wanted inside and out of it (no driving obviously). I sat in that car for 10 minutes just drinking the whole thing in. Just me and the car, no one hovering around or anything. They let me fire it up too. Sounded amazing..

Always told myself when it was time, it had to be Carrs. They took a commission from me on this sale, but they earned it all those years ago with the small kindness they showed me when I really needed it smile

The second, more pragmatic reason, was to build a relationship with my local dealer - I'm trying to angle toward getting the 812 replacement, so we'll see how that goes.

Miocene said:
Funnily enough I saw this in Meridian before Christmas and even the wife commented what a lovely colour it was!

Congratulations, enjoy it!
Small world! I went down on the 22nd to seal the deal!




mirsgarage

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249 posts

20 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Anyway, I really mucked up the car in the last few days. Having covered 541 miles in a matter of 4 days, the car was covered in a cake of salt, road grime, and who knows what else. I've been daily driving the car so it's probably time for it to get a little TLC. Took it down to Dave at Knight Detailing who generally sorts anything to do with anything with the cosmetics on my cars. We also discussed some leather ceramic coating for the white leather, and getting PPF on the gloss carbon door cards. Sills appeared to already be PPFd, which is a nice bonus.



Definitely did a number on the car, but all good because it's covered in PPF.







Felt good to get it clean, I'm not gonna lie. Loads of comments on the road from folks passing by about the absolute state of the car. Most were hilarious though hahaha, a lot of people cheering on the concept of dirty supercar I guess!





Looking much better now! Only time will tell how long it'll be before the thing gets mucky again, though. Probably a matter of days biggrin


Austin_Metro

1,246 posts

49 months

Tuesday 16th January
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It does look good clean, but it look great filthy. Keep up the good work! Like the carrs story. Did you tell them?

J1990

821 posts

54 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Just saw your car pop up on Knight’s story and popped straight over to check it wasn’t a coincidental spec of another user not afraid of winter grime.

Lovely collection

mirsgarage

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249 posts

20 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Austin_Metro said:
It does look good clean, but it look great filthy. Keep up the good work! Like the carrs story. Did you tell them?
Thanks! And yeah, Dominic - the guy responsible for handing me the keys, made this sale and definitely knows the story (and remembers!). Really solid fella.

J1990 said:
Just saw your car pop up on Knight’s story and popped straight over to check it wasn’t a coincidental spec of another user not afraid of winter grime.

Lovely collection
Dave is awesome! And thanks smile

GCCP

962 posts

233 months

Wednesday 17th January
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mirsgarage said:
Small world! I went down on the 22nd to seal the deal!
That is a great story! reminds me of when i was 18 going into Porsche Bristol and they asked "can i help you with anything", my reply was "in about 10 years hopefully" smile

GP

mirsgarage

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249 posts

20 months

Wednesday 17th January
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GCCP said:
That is a great story! reminds me of when i was 18 going into Porsche Bristol and they asked "can i help you with anything", my reply was "in about 10 years hopefully" smile

GP
Almost exactly that hahaha!

If it's been 10 years, I hope you've done it smile

GCCP

962 posts

233 months

Thursday 18th January
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mirsgarage said:
Almost exactly that hahaha!

If it's been 10 years, I hope you've done it smile
I did indeed, though i was 2 years late and it was at Ferrari vs Porsche collecting my (new to me) F430 at the time biggrin

mirsgarage

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249 posts

20 months

Thursday 18th January
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GCCP said:
I did indeed, though i was 2 years late and it was at Ferrari vs Porsche collecting my (new to me) F430 at the time biggrin
Well chosen! I still maintain the F430 is the best sounding N/A V8 they built. It had that music to it. How'd you get on with the car?

mirsgarage

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249 posts

20 months

Thursday 18th January
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Local photographer captured this stunner during our little drive up to the moors.



Gonna print it large scale and frame it I think! Super cool smile

CQ8

787 posts

228 months

Thursday 18th January
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mirsgarage said:
Local photographer captured this stunner during our little drive up to the moors.



Gonna print it large scale and frame it I think! Super cool smile
Very cool pic!

mirsgarage said:
I'll drop ya a message when I'm thinking of swapping the car out for something else, but not super soon - potentially end of 2024 or after Summer 2025. Already looking at Plymouth Roadrunners with 383s in them.. ADHD is a proper menace..
I'm in Devon too (think we've both used George at Re:Fuel) so drop me a message soon. It would be good to connect.

BEAMS 162

165 posts

48 months

Saturday 20th January
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That is a handsome thing and I'm also a sucker for a red car,that shade is lovely,classy too.Its nice to see someone who is in the enviable position to own these kinds of cars just get in them and do what they're built for,get them driven! Had to smile at the 'filthy' pics,why the hell not.

Mezzanine

9,246 posts

220 months

Saturday 20th January
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mirsgarage said:
Local photographer captured this stunner during our little drive up to the moors.



Gonna print it large scale and frame it I think! Super cool smile
Great shot.

Congratulations on a lovely spec Pista.

GCCP

962 posts

233 months

Monday 22nd January
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mirsgarage said:
GCCP said:
I did indeed, though i was 2 years late and it was at Ferrari vs Porsche collecting my (new to me) F430 at the time biggrin
Well chosen! I still maintain the F430 is the best sounding N/A V8 they built. It had that music to it. How'd you get on with the car?
Loved it! it was the perfect first step into Ferrari ownership ( I had a TVR Cerbera 4.5 before which was as you can imagine quite different!) . The move to the 458 though was even better smile

mirsgarage

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249 posts

20 months

Friday 26th January
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CQ8 said:
I'm in Devon too (think we've both used George at Re:Fuel) so drop me a message soon. It would be good to connect.
Yes! I will drop you a message later this evening smile

mirsgarage

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249 posts

20 months

Friday 26th January
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Went out with a photographer friend and my buddy George in both cars. Got some lovely shots, but when the photographer asked about how I felt the two compared, I responded "Different Gravy", which has lead to this absolutely epic photo of them both.



Another one for the wall. Many more to come, though. We got some awesome rolling shots and whatnot. So nice to just be out in the car, on good roads, having a laugh with some friends.

Mr Tidy

22,545 posts

128 months

Friday 26th January
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That's a fantastic shot of 2 cars that couldn't be more different in so many ways.

If the rest are anything like that we're in for a treat!

mirsgarage

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249 posts

20 months

Saturday 10th February
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Righto - I've had a mental week, but it's sort of winding down now. Some little interesting tidbits to share though, in between now and my last post.

Last weekend I took the car to Milbrook with Rob Colbourn - an absolutely fantastic chap, and an absolutely fantastic experience. Took the car on wet and dry skid pans. Really explored it's capabilities in a safe space to do so. Did a couple of launches.

My general idea was to get a little assessment done of my road driving, and then to take the car off the road and basically figure out how it handles oversteer, understeer, and generally being on the limit - not something you can do with a 700+hp car on the street.

I have a muuuuch better idea of what this thing can do now. Including all the fun stuff like CT OFF, ESC OFF, and the differences between Sport/Race modes and the TC intervention thresholds.



First off, this chassis is unbelievable. Took me a few tries, given I don't really slide cars much - but eventually I was able to slide it in a clean 360 circle around some cones with ESC completely off. For those who've never tried it, I highly recommend finding a safe space to do so, and giving it a try. You learn so much about the balance, character and response of the car when it's sliding, when intiating the slide, catching it, holding it, then exiting. With all the electronics off, the mechanical traction and stability of the car is very impressive, but it will happily break traction at the twitch of your ankle. Very much a treat with respect situation though - it can get out of hand if you're ham-footed or don't appreciate what you're dealing with - I spun the car 20-30 times on the day just messing around with full ESC OFF - and they were violent spins too. I did a bunch of corner exits "at max push" with ESC off just to see what the car felt like with everything switched off, but trying to drive cleanly - and the crossover point between traction and wheelspin was incredibly fluid in a good way. You can feel it break loose but it doesn't snap or bite in a violent way, the car is simply flowing with your inputs, hands and feet at work - and you can really work with it and gently curtail any traction issues with ease.

TC OFF/SSC - well, you can still spin the car but it's really VERY hard to do and you have to try. I was curious how far the SSC (side slip control) would let you go - and honestly, found it difficult to abuse the throttle enough to consistently spin it. When it does spin, that's because you're not counter steering at all - so in a normal case, I'd figure it's probably impossible to loop as long as you're somewhat awake. Mid slide, you can absolutely feel the electronics hard at work and SSC nipping the rear from going too far past the line. You can't do massive powerslides with it, but you can absolutely get some nice angle going on, and exiting a turn in an "exuberant" manner is all too easy. The car is just superb in this setting - it flatters with ease, and it really makes you feel like an absolute hero while retaining a safety net from violent spins.

RACE - can't slide the car at all, but it will let you get a fair bit of angle on the exit if you just mash the throttle in. Very progressive and feels fantastic imo, safe enough one can just mash the throttle in on exit and use some slight steering to adjust the trajectory and be fine. Rear will be loose but it retains that incredible feeling of fluidity when that does happen, the car feels almost telepathic. Quite liberal on protection in a straight line and on corner exit as you're straightening the car up, but not frightening and will definitely keep you safe with minimal effort on your part.

SPORT - After going out and having some fun with the car, I found sport a bit too restrictive - I liked the sense of looseness that Race provides - but with that being said, I tried some corner exit excercises in Sport on a dry surface and it wouldn't really break loose, it was moving a little bit, but that sensation of fluidly flitting between traction and not was curtailed a little bit and you could feel the electronics at bay, gently stepping in. It's quite interesting because it was still quite impressive, albeit from a technical and calibration standpoint. Very impressive, because it can still feel fun and like there's a bit of movement under there. It's kind of like looking those Zoos you can play tug of war with the big cats. Fun, but you know you'll be alright. In the wet, you can go a little further - but it does reign you in all the same.

WET - I couldn't even get it to break traction in the wet. Entire car felt dulled, or muted.

From a powertrain perspective, the Pista is sensational. I mean, utterly explosive, instantly responsive, and absolutely beguiling. It charms you - despite the pre-conceived notion many will carry about it's turbocharged nature. But you honestly lose yourself in the engine and quite simply forget it's even got a pair of turbos strapped to the motor once you start pushing the car. Instead, you revel in the response, and the rate at which this thing will fire you down a road. It even sounds great when on song - and when you forget about the turbochargers, a bit of induction noise is there to remind you if you have any spare bandwidth to even process such a thing. I've never driven an engine like it. It blew my mind with it's power - and it stops short of feeling like a wild animal purely down to the gearbox. The gearbox becomes a leash to this wild animal. You pull either paddle and the engine responds without a moments delay. It's unbelievable, truly. Absolute command over the situation in any case. Ask of it the impossible, and it will comply. 55mph in 6th? Pull the paddle three times, and three downshifts you will get - each shift completing before the paddle has even returned to it's resting position, poised for the next pull. Unreal stuff.

Rob was a brilliant companion and instructor during my explorations. We did some on-road driving, and then the session at Milbrook. An absolute gent, but incredibly knowledgable and insightful on aspects of my driving that needed a bit of nudging. It was an illuminating day and I left with a lot of valuable takeaways I hope to implement in time. I highly recommend anyone with a car that wants to challenge their own understanding of what it means to drive well to give Rob a call.

Finally, I absolutely decimated the tires. Obviously. So new PS4S going on this week, I think.


Austin_Metro

1,246 posts

49 months

Saturday 10th February
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mirsgarage said:
Righto - I've had a mental week, but it's sort of winding down now. Some little interesting tidbits to share though, in between now and my last post.

Last weekend I took the car to Milbrook with Rob Colbourn - an absolutely fantastic chap, and an absolutely fantastic experience. Took the car on wet and dry skid pans. Really explored it's capabilities in a safe space to do so. Did a couple of launches.

My general idea was to get a little assessment done of my road driving, and then to take the car off the road and basically figure out how it handles oversteer, understeer, and generally being on the limit - not something you can do with a 700+hp car on the street.

I have a muuuuch better idea of what this thing can do now. Including all the fun stuff like CT OFF, ESC OFF, and the differences between Sport/Race modes and the TC intervention thresholds.



First off, this chassis is unbelievable. Took me a few tries, given I don't really slide cars much - but eventually I was able to slide it in a clean 360 circle around some cones with ESC completely off. For those who've never tried it, I highly recommend finding a safe space to do so, and giving it a try. You learn so much about the balance, character and response of the car when it's sliding, when intiating the slide, catching it, holding it, then exiting. With all the electronics off, the mechanical traction and stability of the car is very impressive, but it will happily break traction at the twitch of your ankle. Very much a treat with respect situation though - it can get out of hand if you're ham-footed or don't appreciate what you're dealing with - I spun the car 20-30 times on the day just messing around with full ESC OFF - and they were violent spins too. I did a bunch of corner exits "at max push" with ESC off just to see what the car felt like with everything switched off, but trying to drive cleanly - and the crossover point between traction and wheelspin was incredibly fluid in a good way. You can feel it break loose but it doesn't snap or bite in a violent way, the car is simply flowing with your inputs, hands and feet at work - and you can really work with it and gently curtail any traction issues with ease.

TC OFF/SSC - well, you can still spin the car but it's really VERY hard to do and you have to try. I was curious how far the SSC (side slip control) would let you go - and honestly, found it difficult to abuse the throttle enough to consistently spin it. When it does spin, that's because you're not counter steering at all - so in a normal case, I'd figure it's probably impossible to loop as long as you're somewhat awake. Mid slide, you can absolutely feel the electronics hard at work and SSC nipping the rear from going too far past the line. You can't do massive powerslides with it, but you can absolutely get some nice angle going on, and exiting a turn in an "exuberant" manner is all too easy. The car is just superb in this setting - it flatters with ease, and it really makes you feel like an absolute hero while retaining a safety net from violent spins.

RACE - can't slide the car at all, but it will let you get a fair bit of angle on the exit if you just mash the throttle in. Very progressive and feels fantastic imo, safe enough one can just mash the throttle in on exit and use some slight steering to adjust the trajectory and be fine. Rear will be loose but it retains that incredible feeling of fluidity when that does happen, the car feels almost telepathic. Quite liberal on protection in a straight line and on corner exit as you're straightening the car up, but not frightening and will definitely keep you safe with minimal effort on your part.

SPORT - After going out and having some fun with the car, I found sport a bit too restrictive - I liked the sense of looseness that Race provides - but with that being said, I tried some corner exit excercises in Sport on a dry surface and it wouldn't really break loose, it was moving a little bit, but that sensation of fluidly flitting between traction and not was curtailed a little bit and you could feel the electronics at bay, gently stepping in. It's quite interesting because it was still quite impressive, albeit from a technical and calibration standpoint. Very impressive, because it can still feel fun and like there's a bit of movement under there. It's kind of like looking those Zoos you can play tug of war with the big cats. Fun, but you know you'll be alright. In the wet, you can go a little further - but it does reign you in all the same.

WET - I couldn't even get it to break traction in the wet. Entire car felt dulled, or muted.

From a powertrain perspective, the Pista is sensational. I mean, utterly explosive, instantly responsive, and absolutely beguiling. It charms you - despite the pre-conceived notion many will carry about it's turbocharged nature. But you honestly lose yourself in the engine and quite simply forget it's even got a pair of turbos strapped to the motor once you start pushing the car. Instead, you revel in the response, and the rate at which this thing will fire you down a road. It even sounds great when on song - and when you forget about the turbochargers, a bit of induction noise is there to remind you if you have any spare bandwidth to even process such a thing. I've never driven an engine like it. It blew my mind with it's power - and it stops short of feeling like a wild animal purely down to the gearbox. The gearbox becomes a leash to this wild animal. You pull either paddle and the engine responds without a moments delay. It's unbelievable, truly. Absolute command over the situation in any case. Ask of it the impossible, and it will comply. 55mph in 6th? Pull the paddle three times, and three downshifts you will get - each shift completing before the paddle has even returned to it's resting position, poised for the next pull. Unreal stuff.

Rob was a brilliant companion and instructor during my explorations. We did some on-road driving, and then the session at Milbrook. An absolute gent, but incredibly knowledgable and insightful on aspects of my driving that needed a bit of nudging. It was an illuminating day and I left with a lot of valuable takeaways I hope to implement in time. I highly recommend anyone with a car that wants to challenge their own understanding of what it means to drive well to give Rob a call.

Finally, I absolutely decimated the tires. Obviously. So new PS4S going on this week, I think.
Wonderful. I have a feeling the first owner didn’t do any of that!!

samoht

5,770 posts

147 months

Saturday 10th February
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Fantastic write up, really gives a sense of the car. Great stuff and thanks for sharing smile