Teacher guilty of sex with two boys

Teacher guilty of sex with two boys

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biggbn

23,723 posts

222 months

Saturday 18th May
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popeyewhite said:
An absolute offence, and a very stupid girl. I notice from reading the news article yesterday that boy 2 didn't freak out until after he'd had consensual sex with her 30 times and then she told him she was carrying 'their' baby. It suits society and the law to pursue a 'grooming' narrative, but if anyone really thinks that was the case with boy 2 I'd suggest they're a bit naive.
But it is still an abuse of a very one sided power dynamic over a more vulnerable minor. Some of the comments on this thread, not yours popeye, are vile. This place has become a cesspit sadly.

Oakey

27,613 posts

218 months

Saturday 18th May
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bhstewie said:
Wonder if part of her mitigation will be they were "lucky bds" and "they loved every minute of it" and "technically I'm not a pedophile" scratchchin
"Dad, I had sex with one of the teachers at school and loved every minute of it"

"Wahey, go on my lad, you lucky bugger. Which one?"

"Mr Edwards, the drama teacher"


popeyewhite

20,145 posts

122 months

Saturday 18th May
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biggbn said:
But it is still an abuse of a very one sided power dynamic over a more vulnerable minor. Some of the comments on this thread, not yours popeye, are vile. This place has become a cesspit sadly.
It's extraordinary behaviour from the teacher and she certainly takes advantage of her position, and the boys. Would all this have happened were she not a teacher? Of course not.

Edited by popeyewhite on Saturday 18th May 23:37

Electro1980

8,430 posts

141 months

Saturday 18th May
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All of what? The criminal charges due to the age? Yes, that would have happened. The criminal charges due to her being a teacher? Obviously not. There is a higher standard precisely because of the power dynamics between teacher and pupil.

popeyewhite

20,145 posts

122 months

Saturday 18th May
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Electro1980 said:
All of what? The criminal charges due to the age? Yes, that would have happened. The criminal charges due to her being a teacher? Obviously not. There is a higher standard precisely because of the power dynamics between teacher and pupil.
"All this"
Means, um, everything.
Were she not a teacher she wouldn't even have met the boys/been in a position to carry out abuse.

Evanivitch

20,425 posts

124 months

Saturday 18th May
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Internetexplorer said:
Evanivitch said:
And definitions change over time.

In 2024, she's a paedophile. And she'll be on the register with all the other paedophiles.
No, the definition hasn't changed and there isn't a paedo register, theres a sex offenders register.

It is statutory rape -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_rape#:~:te...
I didn't call it a paedophile register...

But there is "Sarah's Law". It's an association she'll have have.

https://www.met.police.uk/rqo/request/ri/request-i...

And the definition has changed, because traditionally the term was used for people attracted to pre-pubescent children, and now it is widely applied in line with the UK (or national) age of consent.

Edited by Evanivitch on Saturday 18th May 20:13

EddieSteadyGo

12,195 posts

205 months

Saturday 18th May
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bhstewie said:
Wonder if part of her mitigation will be they were "lucky bds" and "they loved every minute of it" and "technically I'm not a pedophile" scratchchin
Can you stop this please, as I can't agree with you!

15 year old boys are still children. They might want to do lots of things, but adults realise it's dangerous and damaging and therefore nothing other than abuse.

Evanivitch

20,425 posts

124 months

Saturday 18th May
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popeyewhite said:
An absolute offence, and a very stupid girl. I notice from reading the news article yesterday that boy 2 didn't freak out until after he'd had consensual sex with her 30 times and then she told him she was carrying 'their' baby. It suits society and the law to pursue a 'grooming' narrative, but if anyone really thinks that was the case with boy 2 I'd suggest they're a bit naive.
She's a 30 year old woman with an education and a position of responsibility.

You're creepy AF.

J4CKO

41,762 posts

202 months

Saturday 18th May
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"Hey Teacher, leave those kids alone"

Its pretty simple, as an educator, dont shag the pupils, semantics about male/female etc are immaterial, laws there for a reason.


BikeBikeBIke

8,309 posts

117 months

Saturday 18th May
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bhstewie said:
Wonder if part of her mitigation will be they were "lucky bds" and "they loved every minute of it" and "technically I'm not a pedophile" scratchchin
Read the sentencing guidelines? (Clue: it won't. Unless you're referring to victim impact statements.)

EddieSteadyGo

12,195 posts

205 months

Saturday 18th May
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BikeBikeBIke said:
bhstewie said:
Wonder if part of her mitigation will be they were "lucky bds" and "they loved every minute of it" and "technically I'm not a pedophile" scratchchin
Read the sentencing guidelines? (Clue: it won't. Unless you're referring to victim impact statements.)

He was taking the piss....

Caddyshack

11,003 posts

208 months

Saturday 18th May
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EddieSteadyGo said:
bhstewie said:
Wonder if part of her mitigation will be they were "lucky bds" and "they loved every minute of it" and "technically I'm not a pedophile" scratchchin
Can you stop this please, as I can't agree with you!

15 year old boys are still children. They might want to do lots of things, but adults realise it's dangerous and damaging and therefore nothing other than abuse.
He was taking the piss….

EddieSteadyGo

12,195 posts

205 months

Saturday 18th May
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Caddyshack said:
He was taking the piss….

Caddyshack

11,003 posts

208 months

Saturday 18th May
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EddieSteadyGo said:
Caddyshack said:
He was taking the piss….
Good pic, perfect!

redrabbit

1,434 posts

167 months

Saturday 18th May
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Caddyshack said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
Caddyshack said:
He was taking the piss….
Good pic, perfect!
And a perfect way to end this preposterous thread biggrin

Caddyshack

11,003 posts

208 months

Saturday 18th May
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redrabbit said:
Caddyshack said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
Caddyshack said:
He was taking the piss….
Good pic, perfect!
And a perfect way to end this preposterous thread biggrin
I do think it has run as far as it needs to.

Pit Pony

8,821 posts

123 months

Saturday 18th May
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Rufus Stone said:
What if the teacher was male?
Substitute teacher for Catholic priest.

Almost certainly they would get away with it.

105.4

4,156 posts

73 months

Saturday 18th May
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Electro1980 said:
Caddyshack said:
Evanivitch said:
105.4 said:
Actually, I don’t.

I’d slept with women of a similar age to this teacher when I was 15. I certainly don’t feel like I was groomed by them.

But your faux-piousness does genuinely raise several moral conundrums.

If it was a 28 year old male teacher with a 15 year old girl, many would be up in arms, (hypocritically, myself included).

The law is the law, and should be applied equally to all, (although often isn’t).

There can’t be equality between men and women if women get a light touch or a free pass on certain things.

If I had a 15 year old son who was banging a reasonably decent looking 28 year old female teacher, I’d probably be high-fiving the lucky bd.

If this had happened to my daughter in a couple of years when she turned 15……well, I wouldn’t be phoning the Police and the end result wouldn’t be cinematic.


Yep, it’s a bit of a tricky one. Best add me to your list as seen as I’m not immediately indignant with faux rage.
Perhaps you don't understand the position of responsibility teachers are put in to protect children, and the obvious grooming through gifts that went on here.

It's not quite drinking underage in the pub and being taken for a quick ride by the local mutton.
That’s a good point.

I think the above poster is not arguing that what she did was very wrong, it is just that the boys may not feel like victims.
They were groomed. She was buying them expensive gifts. They were manipulated and this will have a serious life long impact.

We need to stop this BS that boys can’t be victims. This is why boys are having so many problems at the moment. Always seen as perpetrators and never as victims. They absolutely are victims here, of being manipulated and abused by someone with direct and very real power over them.

All I can think of with all the people claiming they would have thought it great at that age is this:


Wherever there is perceived victimhood, I can be assured that you will be there screaming their case at the top of your lungs.

Whilst you may believe that this makes you virtuous, it comes across to me as insincere, dishonest, and lacking in the sort of moral grey areas that makes us all fallible and human.

There’s very few on here who are, I believe, being truly honest. The rest, as is often the case, are desperately clambering to shine their (false) beacon of righteousness. This does you, (and others), a disservice, as people never can be sure when you are being truly honest, or when you are just saying things that you think either makes you sound good, or saying things that you think others want to hear.

Only the gullible would fail to see through such a charade.


Let me ask you a question. Hopefully I will get a straight and an
honest answer.

If you were 15 again, and you had the opportunity to play hide the sausage multiple times with a female teacher that you fancied, would you have? If she had bought you shiny trinkets, would that have made you feel like a victim? Pessimistically, I’m not hopeful of an honest answer from you.

And before you enthusiastically clamber upon your high horse, this teacher has broken her position of trust, she has broken the law, and she deserves to be punished accordingly.

otolith

56,542 posts

206 months

Saturday 18th May
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Lots of 15 year olds also want booze, and vapes, and weed, it doesn’t make it morally acceptable to sell it to them.

Evanivitch

20,425 posts

124 months

Saturday 18th May
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105.4 said:
There’s very few on here who are, I believe, being truly honest.
It's interesting how creeps try to justify their position by stating everyone else must be lying.