RE: E39 M5 V8 E31 8 Series = classic BMW perfection
Discussion
Joe M said:
Have they got the brake disks on the wrong side?
now you mentioning it, the front for my liking yes, this way its gonna dive even more.but I do not know the reason behind why they chose it like that, hm I looked up another base car 850i came across this 840ci and it seems at least at this wiki picture example, its the way BMW did that mounting point at the front...
see this 840ci example, a bit hard to see but its the same way.
ArgonautX said:
birky said:
Looks great but agree about the wheels.
Is there much weight difference between the the V12 and V8? Enough to affect handling?
There isn't... about 30-40 kg. V12 is a simpler engine, no VVT and SOHC head.Is there much weight difference between the the V12 and V8? Enough to affect handling?
GTRene said:
Joe M said:
Have they got the brake disks on the wrong side?
now you mentioning it, the front for my liking yes, this way its gonna dive even more.but I do not know the reason behind why they chose it like that, hm I looked up another base car 850i came across this 840ci and it seems at least at this wiki picture example, its the way BMW did that mounting point at the front...
see this 840ci example, a bit hard to see but its the same way.
ArgonautX said:
There isn't... about 30-40 kg. V12 is a simpler engine, no VVT and SOHC head.
There was an American chap who ran an M70, stroked and lined to 86x86 (so bang on 6.0lt), plus with a fair bit of breathing work, in the back of an Ultima. About 410rwhp, so 470+hp at crank without going to forced induction or fancy valve gear.
I can't help thinking that would have been a more desirable route.
AmyRichardson said:
There was an American chap who ran an M70, stroked and lined to 86x86 (so bang on 6.0lt), plus with a fair bit of breathing work, in the back of an Ultima.
About 410rwhp, so 470+hp at crank without going to forced induction or fancy valve gear.
I can't help thinking that would have been a more desirable route.
Boring a M70/73 is a bit of a problem, since you need to reapply the silicone based coating on the cylinder walls. Not a lot of places can do that. I know that some may have gone the route of steel liners, but I'm not sure how successful that was. I remember reading that at least some of those had issues with oil consumption .About 410rwhp, so 470+hp at crank without going to forced induction or fancy valve gear.
I can't help thinking that would have been a more desirable route.
AmyRichardson said:
ArgonautX said:
There isn't... about 30-40 kg. V12 is a simpler engine, no VVT and SOHC head.
There was an American chap who ran an M70, stroked and lined to 86x86 (so bang on 6.0lt), plus with a fair bit of breathing work, in the back of an Ultima. About 410rwhp, so 470+hp at crank without going to forced induction or fancy valve gear.
I can't help thinking that would have been a more desirable route.
ArgonautX said:
Boring a M70/73 is a bit of a problem, since you need to reapply the silicone based coating on the cylinder walls. Not a lot of places can do that. I know that some may have gone the route of steel liners, but I'm not sure how successful that was. I remember reading that at least some of those had issues with oil consumption .
Looking back at the (ancient!) blog it seems 86mm needed new iron sleeves; so no small job. But more difficult than making adaptations to a whole new drivetrain? (And obv a V12 is 1000% cooler than a V8!)
AmyRichardson said:
Looking back at the (ancient!) blog it seems 86mm needed new iron sleeves; so no small job. But more difficult than making adaptations to a whole new drivetrain?
(And obv a V12 is 1000% cooler than a V8!)
Actually, since E31 did originally came with a M62 engine, I don't think S62 is that big of a job(S62 is basically a souped up M62). (And obv a V12 is 1000% cooler than a V8!)
V12 is cooler than the V8, I'll agree. I also think that it suits the car more, as it'll never be an agile sports car.
Apart from the wheels, that is mega. Probably the most handsome car BMW ever made, back when their design team weren't on drugs.
Although if it were my car, I'd drop an LS7 motor in instead because E39 V8 parts will dry up soon enough. Same weight, but more grunt and capable of shed loads more without breaking into a sweat.
Although if it were my car, I'd drop an LS7 motor in instead because E39 V8 parts will dry up soon enough. Same weight, but more grunt and capable of shed loads more without breaking into a sweat.
Joe M said:
GTRene said:
Joe M said:
Have they got the brake disks on the wrong side?
now you mentioning it, the front for my liking yes, this way its gonna dive even more.but I do not know the reason behind why they chose it like that, hm I looked up another base car 850i came across this 840ci and it seems at least at this wiki picture example, its the way BMW did that mounting point at the front...
see this 840ci example, a bit hard to see but its the same way.
but I see what you mean, a lot of those discs 1 piece with holes, only come in 1 sort, not left and right like you get with 2 piece discs, I had such also on a project car then the 325 mm I believe, anyway's, I looked and thought huh? they send me 2 of the same... so I called, they are all like that sir... aaargh
But if you have the 345 mm 2 piece, those are in left and right (at least some are, those what I had on another car)
Still Mulling said:
Ah, I see. Simplistically elegant as they are, there were too many twin-leg 5-spokes in Max Power when I was a kid for me to be in love with them.
I also didn't know that those that I posted are known as throwing stars. They are now even cooler to me!
I think or rather I was sure that the throwing stars were plastic trims over a m parallel style alloy I also didn't know that those that I posted are known as throwing stars. They are now even cooler to me!
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