NI contributions ceiling?

NI contributions ceiling?

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paulmakin

Original Poster:

671 posts

143 months

Saturday 18th May
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A basic question but i can't find anything definitive using the normal searches, including on My HMRC or whatever it's called

Is there a limit on NI contributions, regardless of income?. In years gone by I know that i have claimed and received refunds as i had multiple employers and total contributions exceeded what i assume was a maximum.

I'm returning to some employment over the summer months but quite keen not to pay more than i should (or at least to know if i should be attempting to claim a refund at years end). if it matters, it'll be short term rolling contract but definitely an "employee"/PAYE

Simpo Two

85,815 posts

267 months

Sunday 19th May
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Do you mean Class 2 for state pension or something else?

Noise Allowed

3 posts

36 months

Sunday 19th May
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I think the NI rate for employees above the upper limit was introduced back in 2003. Before then, there wasn’t any NI to pay for the portion of your salary above a certain amount.

snuffy

9,931 posts

286 months

Sunday 19th May
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https://www.gov.uk/national-insurance-rates-letter...

So roughly 8% upto 5k a month, then 2%.

If you had 3 jobs, each paying 5k a month, each employer would deduce 8%, because of course, they look at you in isolation. But actually you only pay 8% on the first 5k, and 2% on the remaining 10k.

Is that what you mean?

Somebody

1,216 posts

85 months

Sunday 19th May
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snuffy said:
If you had 3 jobs, each paying 5k a month, each employer would deduce 8%, because of course, they look at you in isolation. But actually you only pay 8% on the first 5k, and 2% on the remaining 10k.
That's correct in theory, but if you try claiming back the "excess" which I tried, HMRC will tell you that each calculation/deduction is correct, and will refuse your claim.

Mogul

2,941 posts

225 months

Sunday 19th May
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NI works differently to Income Tax (your allowance / the thresholds are applied weekly/monthly with no cumulative roll up.



The complexity is one argument in favour of ‘abolishing’ it, but to balance the books, income tax will be managed accordingly.

snuffy

9,931 posts

286 months

Sunday 19th May
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Mogul said:
NI works differently to Income Tax (your allowance / the thresholds are applied weekly/monthly with no cumulative roll up.
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They are indeed applied weekly/monthly as opposed to yearly fir income tax.

But that's not the same as exceeding the upper threshold.

paulmakin

Original Poster:

671 posts

143 months

Sunday 19th May
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thanks all - clearer now