RE: E39 M5 V8 E31 8 Series = classic BMW perfection

RE: E39 M5 V8 E31 8 Series = classic BMW perfection

Sunday 19th May

E39 M5 V8 + E31 8 Series = classic BMW perfection

Manhart has been at the classic restoration again - this one's pretty special


We’ll all have our favourite BMW engine swaps: the S85 V10 into M3s or 1M Coupes, old 3 Series Tourings made into M3 wagons, E30s given twice the horsepower and so on. Manhart is very proud of its classic BMW optimisation, suggesting that the company’s ‘credo’ has been to bring together car and engine combos not offered from the factory ‘since the early days’. Recently it’s shown what a straight-six E30 M3 might look like; now they’ve conjured up something really interesting: an original 8 Series, with the running gear of the E39 M5. Say hello to the MH8 5.0 V8.

While the E31 8 Series always boasted big engines and lots of tech, it was never much of a sports car. Even the 850 CSi was more of a sporty GT than a proper V12 M monster, Manhart thinks it has the solution, taking a regular 850i - no CSis were harmed in the making of this restomod - and switching its 5.0-litre V12 for the hallowed 5.0-litre S62 V8. Though both famed '90s BMWs, the final few 8 Series will have been made at the start of 1999 as the M5 was coming on stream. It makes a lot of sense, though it’s the first time we’ve heard of this sort of swap happening. If there’s space for a 5.0-litre already, why not put a more exciting one in?

Manhart reckons that the switch from M70 to S62 has transformed the car, changing it from ‘luxurious Gran Turismo to powerful thoroughbred sports car’, which sounds fantastic. Beforehand the V12 would have been making 300hp at 5,200rpm and 332lb ft at 4,100rpm; a standard M5 V8 is 400hp strong (at 6,600rpm), supported by 369lb ft at 3,800rpm. So already it’s easy to see where a performance and character change would come from, especially with the switch from four-speed auto to six-speed manual as well, but Manhart hasn’t left the V8 standard. Thanks to ‘performance optimisation’, the M5 lump makes 420hp, and thunders through a stainless steel sports exhaust. 

There’s a whole lot more to an MH8 than just the engine, too. The base 8 Series is stripped and repainted, with some CSi goodies and M add-ons fitted to pump up the attitude. The interior is reupholstered, with Alcantara splashed across the contact points for a sportier feel. And it looks fantastic for it - for anyone reading this who works at BMW, this is a good diameter, design and thickness. 

The restomod overhaul continues for the chassis, the 8 Series refreshed with big 340mm brake discs up front clamped by four-piston calipers, Bilstein B6 dampers and H&R lowering springs. All rubbers and bearings were replaced, and everything that wasn't new was refurbished. Manhart’s Concave One wheels are perhaps a bit large (at 20-inch diameter) and a bit modern-looking to really suit the MH8, but they’re easily changed.

Just five of these M5-engined 8 Series will be produced by Manhart, and it sounds like there’s still availability for now. This one is actually for sale immediately, priced at €149,000, or just under £128,000 at current exchange rates. A heck of a lot even with 8 Series prices strengthening of late, but then there’s also that M5 donor to think about, plus the recommissioning, the paint… it soon adds up. Given the performance potential on offer, and the timelessly cool design of the E31, it’s easy to imagine all five MH8s being spoken for very soon. 


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Master Bean

Original Poster:

3,665 posts

122 months

Friday 17th May
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Oh yes. I like this a lot.

supacool1

401 posts

181 months

Friday 17th May
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Wheels look a little daft, but the rest is perfect! Love it.

British Beef

2,242 posts

167 months

Friday 17th May
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Stunning! for me this is tuning / restomod done perfectly and tastefully.

Take a great engine from an iconic car and insert into one of the best looking GTs ever, with pop up headlights, and voila.


alex_2015

155 posts

37 months

Friday 17th May
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Bmw take notes how beautiful / desirable cars should look. Apparently simple design, few elements but so coherent and balanced. An example where sum is way greater than individual elements.
I'm sure that a modern continuation of this, reinterpreted into a modern design, with todays technological advancements would have sold like hot cakes.
Unlike the current 8 series (which is a bit larger and renamed previous 6 series) that almost no one wants even discounted. At those price levels you have better alternatives in that niche.

Edited by alex_2015 on Friday 17th May 10:17

Geoffcapes

719 posts

166 months

Friday 17th May
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My favourite ever BMW. Ooooo I've just had a 'moment'!

I wonder if the wife would notice if I remortgage the house?

d_a_n1979

8,689 posts

74 months

Friday 17th May
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Looks fab bar the god awful wheels!

They let it down a lot IMO

British Beef

2,242 posts

167 months

Friday 17th May
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I have an E39 M5 in the garage, and the engine and gearbox are perfect, but rust has got to the body and chassis, the suspension and brakes need a major overhaul.

Would take some military grade man maths to justify using as donor for making one of these....

craig r

218 posts

165 months

Friday 17th May
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I REALLY like that! I even like the wheels cool

And available now you say...

RumbleOfThunder

3,567 posts

205 months

Friday 17th May
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I must be getting old because I think those wheels are too big.

isaldiri

18,785 posts

170 months

Friday 17th May
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That is bloody neat I've got to admit cloud9

ArgonautX

195 posts

53 months

Friday 17th May
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The wheels are def too big. And I would keep the V12, it's what makes this car... just make it bigger for more power. M70/73 can be enlarged to 6 litres of displacement.

d_a_n1979

8,689 posts

74 months

Friday 17th May
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RumbleOfThunder said:
I must be getting old because I think those wheels are too big.
They are

It needs either a set of Style 21s or a set of Style 37s at the most

It'd be a much classier finish with those wheels

TerryFarquit

97 posts

129 months

Friday 17th May
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19” alpina wheels and a saddle brown interior and that would do me thanks.

theicemario

670 posts

77 months

Friday 17th May
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Awful, awful wheels. M badge on the back bit naff as well

9k rpm

530 posts

212 months

Friday 17th May
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Wheels are definitely too big. Otherwise it’s great looking thing.

Dr G

15,239 posts

244 months

Friday 17th May
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supacool1 said:
Wheels look a little daft, but the rest is perfect! Love it.
I thought that too; period wheels and maybe a touch higher on ride height then it's perfect.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,085 posts

100 months

Friday 17th May
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Like that and the price is not too ridiculous, from what I can gather.

8 series really is a design which has aged well - I guess the only downside is that a regular E39 M5 would probably still be a far better driving proposition ( and can actually fit real people in the back )....

birky

44 posts

142 months

Friday 17th May
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Looks great but agree about the wheels.
Is there much weight difference between the the V12 and V8? Enough to affect handling?

ArgonautX

195 posts

53 months

Friday 17th May
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birky said:
Looks great but agree about the wheels.
Is there much weight difference between the the V12 and V8? Enough to affect handling?
There isn't... about 30-40 kg. V12 is a simpler engine, no VVT and SOHC head.

Mad Maximus

386 posts

5 months

Friday 17th May
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Everything except the wheels. Too big.