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Greendubber said:
sturge7878 said:
Plenty of options but have you named the driver yet? Would suggest perhaps your au pair who has just returned to Romania and is no longer contactable could be an easy ‘mitigation’…
And that's why you shouldn't ask for advice on the internet.There are 3 likely possible punishments here
1 4-6 points and a fine
2 A short ban 7-28 days and a fine
3 If 6 points given then Licence will be revoked and fine
1 A letter of mitigation presented correctly and truthfully could well see only 4 or 5 points given. The downside being they then have to drive around on the edge until they have had their licence 2 years and will also have the points to deal until they expire
2 Depending on circumstances this may be the most favourable outcome to achieve if they / their job can cope with it. The upside is they will have a clean licence afterwards
3 If given 6 points then revocation is automatic, there is no hardship plea that can be put forward as can be used for a totting ban. Ignore people talking about a ban for 6 points, it is revocation and no time period applies. Some have got back on the road in a month with a quick cancellation test, even so with this in mind a short ban could still see you back on the road quicker. Just to add the 6 points will remain on the new licence
If you want to try and mitigate the points to 4 or 5 with a representation letter to the court, you would be well advised to seek professional help. Speak to AGT on here, he may even post if he sees this https://www.counsel.direct/
A few hundred quid spent to achieve the desired outcome could be money well spent
Edited by martinbiz on Friday 17th May 09:58
21TonyK said:
Thankfully not one of my kids!
License for under 2 years, 50+ in a 30.
Lose license for (how long?) and then retake test etc etc?
Job is dependent on driving, any mitigation?
When I had been driving for about 18 months I was caught doing a significant speed, my solicitor argued in court that a short ban was more appropriate than 6 points. I got a 6 week ban instead. License for under 2 years, 50+ in a 30.
Lose license for (how long?) and then retake test etc etc?
Job is dependent on driving, any mitigation?
Get a proper solicitor involved and attend court, dress smart, speak properly, show contrition.
sturge7878 said:
Super Sonic said:
sturge7878 said:
Plenty of options but have you named the driver yet? Would suggest perhaps your au pair who has just returned to Romania and is no longer contactable could be an easy ‘mitigation’…
This could result in a prison sentence.
sturge7878 said:
Super Sonic said:
sturge7878 said:
Plenty of options but have you named the driver yet? Would suggest perhaps your au pair who has just returned to Romania and is no longer contactable could be an easy ‘mitigation’…
This could result in a prison sentence.Depends. I attended Magistrates for 54 in a 30. I already had 6 points. The clerk of the court said 'I hope you didn't drive here....'
I had no mitigating circumstances such as licence required for current employment. I got a fine and 5 points.
Be profuse in your apologies. Like really lay it on thick.
I had no mitigating circumstances such as licence required for current employment. I got a fine and 5 points.
Be profuse in your apologies. Like really lay it on thick.
Edited by TimmyMallett on Friday 17th May 14:01
21TonyK said:
Alickadoo said:
Right. Assuming we are in the UK.
It's not a licenSe, it's a licenCe.
Nobody in the UK has a licenSe.
LicenSe is a verb.
LicenCe is the noun.
Thank you, that helps.It's not a licenSe, it's a licenCe.
Nobody in the UK has a licenSe.
LicenSe is a verb.
LicenCe is the noun.
When you read "LicenSe" does it sound and mean the same as "LicenCe" given the context?
- (configured as UK language and UK keyboard).
Alickadoo said:
Right. Assuming we are in the UK.
It's not a licenSe, it's a licenCe.
Nobody in the UK has a licenSe.
LicenSe is a verb.
LicenCe is the noun.
It's not a licenSe, it's a licenCe.
Nobody in the UK has a licenSe.
LicenSe is a verb.
LicenCe is the noun.
As GasEngineer says - that's an easy mistake to make with autocorrect.
Curb for kerb, however, is an offence liable for an immediate ban, fine of 10 x weekly income and a day in the stocks being pelted with mature fruit.
IMHO
21TonyK said:
Sebring440 said:
21TonyK said:
Thankfully this post is not about one of my kids but raised by them as it involves one of their friends!
The muppet in question has held their License for under 2 years, and was caught doing 50+ in a 30 limit.
I have suggested that they will automatically Lose their license for a set period (any ideas how long?) and then have to retake their test etc etc?
Unfortunately for them, thier Job is dependent on driving, is this any mitigation? Or is it a definite ban, no questions
How can anyone advise on mitigation when you have supplied no details whatsoever?The muppet in question has held their License for under 2 years, and was caught doing 50+ in a 30 limit.
I have suggested that they will automatically Lose their license for a set period (any ideas how long?) and then have to retake their test etc etc?
Unfortunately for them, thier Job is dependent on driving, is this any mitigation? Or is it a definite ban, no questions
But yes get some decent representation.
All the best
Dingu said:
sturge7878 said:
Plenty of options but have you named the driver yet? Would suggest perhaps your au pair who has just returned to Romania and is no longer contactable could be an easy ‘mitigation’…
They walk among us…It amuses me when people say “they need their driving licence for their job”…. Then choose to break the speed limit.
If I did need my driving licence for my job, I would think twice about how I drove. To ensure I didn’t lose my livelyhood. Especially now there’s speed cameras everywhere and the dashcam brigade reporting anyone driving through a traffic light as it changes.
I thought “professional drivers” were supposed to be better than the rest of us?
Feel free to break the speed limit, but you only have yourself to blame for your own choice.
If I did need my driving licence for my job, I would think twice about how I drove. To ensure I didn’t lose my livelyhood. Especially now there’s speed cameras everywhere and the dashcam brigade reporting anyone driving through a traffic light as it changes.
I thought “professional drivers” were supposed to be better than the rest of us?
Feel free to break the speed limit, but you only have yourself to blame for your own choice.
Edited by Mr Miata on Saturday 18th May 16:14
Mr Miata said:
the dashcam brigade reporting anyone driving through a traffic light as it changes.
I see clips from dashcams on Facebook and they seem to be either pious little s
ts or aggressive 'Frank Dobermann' types who caused the problem in the first place.In the day of communist Romania it was thought terrible that the regime had people spying on each other. But now we do it too. Unless the driving offence is very serious it's disreputable behaviour IMHO. 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone' etc.
Greendubber said:
sturge7878 said:
Super Sonic said:
sturge7878 said:
Plenty of options but have you named the driver yet? Would suggest perhaps your au pair who has just returned to Romania and is no longer contactable could be an easy ‘mitigation’…
This could result in a prison sentence.spookly said:
My lad is about to take his theory test next week, that was a 1 months wait for the first available. When I looked at practical tests, there are none available in our local test centre in the next 5 months, so will have to book 5 months out and try for a cancellation.
Don’t know what area you’re in but around here, theory is 2-3 weeks. I cover North London and have many available tests for June and July. Some say it’s profiteering but it’s just market demand. I signed up to DVSA business account last year and bought a load of tests. I could see what was coming. I charge £295 admin fee plus the Gov fee depending if week days or weekends etc.There’s no chance that this problem will be solved anytime soo but that’s another story.
Back to the OP.
6 points does mean revocation of licence. However, the good news is that unless an additional ban, he/she/they can apply for a new provisional at the 2 year point after their first licence. It’s not 2 years after revocation. And, it’s not a rolling 2 years.
I guess it’s a personal choice. Sit with points if under 6 or wipe the slate clean and start again.
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