Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 4)

[Wills2]

bad company said:

911hope said:

It isn't fair to confine all the blame to the 52% of the 70% who voted leave.

Granted they were fools, but so we're the 30% who didn't bother to vote.

Of the 5 people I know who voted leave.

One was pure racism (ignorance of immigration)
One was just stupidity (had read too much daily mail)

Both of these still believe they were right.

The other 3 have forgotten that they were leavers and claim they voted remain.

More condescending bull***t from a Remoaner.

What makes you so much better than the millions of leave voters?

Not voting to leave?

[bad company]

Wills2 said:

Not voting to leave?

We all have our opinions on whether Brexit was or wasn’t a good thing. I just get fed up with the condescending attitude that over 17 million leave voters were at best naive or thick as mince.

Maybe those Remoaners don’t believe in giving normal folk votes so might prefer living in say China or North Korea.

[CivicDuties]

bad company said:

Wills2 said:

Not voting to leave?

We all have our opinions on whether Brexit was or wasn’t a good thing. I just get fed up with the condescending attitude that over 17 million leave voters were at best naive or thick as mince.

Maybe those Remoaners don’t believe in giving normal folk votes so might prefer living in say China or North Korea.

And you you clearly allege here that remain voters aren't "normal folk". Eyes, motes, planks.

[nickfrog]

bad company said:

Wills2 said:

Not voting to leave?

We all have our opinions on whether Brexit was or wasn’t a good thing. I just get fed up with the condescending attitude that over 17 million leave voters were at best naive or thick as mince.

Maybe those Remoaners don’t believe in giving normal folk votes so might prefer living in say China or North Korea.

I agree with your first paragraph wholeheartedly.

But then your second paragraph doesn't exactly help.

[andymadmak]

CivicDuties said:

bad company said:

Wills2 said:

Not voting to leave?

We all have our opinions on whether Brexit was or wasn’t a good thing. I just get fed up with the condescending attitude that over 17 million leave voters were at best naive or thick as mince.

Maybe those Remoaners don’t believe in giving normal folk votes so might prefer living in say China or North Korea.

And you you clearly allege here that remain voters aren't "normal folk". Eyes, motes, planks.

I don't think he's saying that at all. In response to the charge from some Remain supporters that most Brexit voters were naive or thick he is suggesting that THOSE Remain supporters aren't normal. And in one sense he's absolutely correct. The majority of folk who voted in 2016 are just getting on with their lives now, and probably rarely give Brexit a second thought.
Those who unquestioningly blame everything bad on Brexit, without ever looking beneath the headlines or checking the facts of the matter might be described as having an issue!

[CivicDuties]

andymadmak said:

CivicDuties said:

bad company said:

Wills2 said:

Not voting to leave?

We all have our opinions on whether Brexit was or wasn’t a good thing. I just get fed up with the condescending attitude that over 17 million leave voters were at best naive or thick as mince.

Maybe those Remoaners don’t believe in giving normal folk votes so might prefer living in say China or North Korea.

And you you clearly allege here that remain voters aren't "normal folk". Eyes, motes, planks.

I don't think he's saying that at all. In response to the charge from some Remain supporters that most Brexit voters were naive or thick he is suggesting that THOSE Remain supporters aren't normal. And in one sense he's absolutely correct. The majority of folk who voted in 2016 are just getting on with their lives now, and probably rarely give Brexit a second thought.
Those who unquestioningly blame everything bad on Brexit, without ever looking beneath the headlines or checking the facts of the matter might be described as having an issue!

Get out of it. "Remoaners don’t believe in giving normal folk votes", whilst accusing others of being condescending. That's two examples of condescending attitude in one phrase. In that sense he's an absolute hypocrite.

[Mrr T]

bad company said:

Wills2 said:

Not voting to leave?

We all have our opinions on whether Brexit was or wasn’t a good thing. I just get fed up with the condescending attitude that over 17 million leave voters were at best naive or thick as mince.

Maybe those Remoaners don’t believe in giving normal folk votes so might prefer living in say China or North Korea.

It just sounds condescending because we pointed out before the vote leaving was a bad idea economically with no up side and that's turned out to be true. Certainly the constant whine about remoaners does not suggest you are happy with the out come.

No one is suggesting people should not vote for governments who take decisions, just that on something like EU, where the majority have no idea about the complexities, a referendum is a bad idea.

[andymadmak]

CivicDuties said:

Get out of it. "Remoaners don’t believe in giving normal folk votes", whilst accusing others of being condescending. That's two examples of condescending attitude in one phrase. In that sense he's an absolute hypocrite.

You missed the words "Maybe those" from the front of his quote.. Those two words fundamentally change the meaning of the quote. But you know that.

[CivicDuties]

andymadmak said:

CivicDuties said:

Get out of it. "Remoaners don’t believe in giving normal folk votes", whilst accusing others of being condescending. That's two examples of condescending attitude in one phrase. In that sense he's an absolute hypocrite.

You missed the words "Maybe those" from the front of his quote.. Those two words fundamentally change the meaning of the quote. But you know that.

I know nothing of the sort. Including "Maybe those" just adds to the sense of condescension. It's sarcastic, unwarranted, and utterly hypocritical. The word Remaoners itself is utterly asinine, implying that there's some section of people who argue for EU membership who would believe in depriving people of votes, and the implication that perhaps they ought to live in North Korea, I mean come one. Stop White Knighting this bullst. What 'bad company' is actually doing is seeking to "embarrass" people into shutting up and keeping their inconvenient truths and opinions to themselves. It's pathetic, and the absolute last resort of those who have nowhere left to turn.

[andymadmak]

CivicDuties said:

I know nothing of the sort. Including "Maybe those" just adds to the sense of condescension. It's sarcastic, unwarranted, and utterly hypocritical. The word Remaoners itself is utterly asinine, implying that there's some section of people who argue for EU membership who would believe in depriving people of votes, and the implication that perhaps they ought to live in North Korea, I mean come one. Stop White Knighting this bullst. What 'bad company' is actually doing is seeking to "embarrass" people into shutting up and keeping their inconvenient truths and opinions to themselves. It's pathetic, and the absolute last resort of those who have nowhere left to turn.

I think you're protesting too much. Deliberately missing those two words off his quote absolutely changes its meaning. It's a shame you want to keep digging this hole, but hey, you do you. Others can decide the merits of our respective positions.

[CivicDuties]

andymadmak said:

CivicDuties said:

I know nothing of the sort. Including "Maybe those" just adds to the sense of condescension. It's sarcastic, unwarranted, and utterly hypocritical. The word Remaoners itself is utterly asinine, implying that there's some section of people who argue for EU membership who would believe in depriving people of votes, and the implication that perhaps they ought to live in North Korea, I mean come one. Stop White Knighting this bullst. What 'bad company' is actually doing is seeking to "embarrass" people into shutting up and keeping their inconvenient truths and opinions to themselves. It's pathetic, and the absolute last resort of those who have nowhere left to turn.

I think you're protesting too much. Deliberately missing those two words off his quote absolutely changes its meaning. It's a shame you want to keep digging this hole, but hey, you do you. Others can decide the merits of our respective positions.

I think you're reading too much into those two words. They do nothing to launder the post's innate hypocrisy and asinine nature.

Have a nice weekend, mate. I'll let you know how my application for political asylum in Pyongyang goes.

[Killboy]

bad company said:

We all have our opinions on whether Brexit was or wasn’t a good thing. I just get fed up with the condescending attitude that over 17 million leave voters were at best naive or thick as mince.

Maybe those Remoaners don’t believe in giving normal folk votes so might prefer living in say China or North Korea.

This is a great post.

[Blue62]

Killboy said:

This is a great post.

Indeed, though it’s odd to see the direction some threads take, arguing over the inference of someone else’s words. The assertion that most people have forgotten about Brexit and are just getting on with their lives doesn’t stand up to scrutiny, this thread is one clear example, the consistent nature of the polls another. Anecdotal evidence abounds also, it comes up in conversation quite a lot and is still a toxic subject in some of the circles I mix in, I stay away from discussing it now, except on here obviously.

[Mortarboard]

Sorry, I'm trying to keep up while taking notes here.

What sort of pin is it, and how big are these angels' feet?

M.

[paul0843]

bad company said:

911hope said:

It isn't fair to confine all the blame to the 52% of the 70% who voted leave.

Granted they were fools, but so we're the 30% who didn't bother to vote.

Of the 5 people I know who voted leave.

One was pure racism (ignorance of immigration)
One was just stupidity (had read too much daily mail)

Both of these still believe they were right.

The other 3 have forgotten that they were leavers and claim they voted remain.

More condescending bull***t from a Remoaner.

What makes you so much better than the millions of leave voters?

Probably the reality of what has ensued since we left

[blueg33]

bad company said:

We all have our opinions on whether Brexit was or wasn’t a good thing. I just get fed up with the condescending attitude that over 17 million leave voters were at best naive or thick as mince.

The evidence post Brexit should explain to you why you get a condescending attitude for continuing to defend what is now clearly seen to be damaging to the UK and its interests.

[911hope]

bad company said:

We all have our opinions on whether Brexit was or wasn’t a good thing. I just get fed up with the condescending attitude that over 17 million leave voters were at best naive or thick as mince.

Maybe those Remoaners don’t believe in giving normal folk votes so might prefer living in say China or North Korea.

Is that an attempt at reasoning?

[bad company]

911hope said:

bad company said:

We all have our opinions on whether Brexit was or wasn’t a good thing. I just get fed up with the condescending attitude that over 17 million leave voters were at best naive or thick as mince.

Maybe those Remoaners don’t believe in giving normal folk votes so might prefer living in say China or North Korea.

Is that an attempt at reasoning?

Is that an attempt at condescending or remoaning ?

[Murph7355]

Mrr T said:

...
No one is suggesting people should not vote for governments who take decisions, just that on something like EU, where the majority have no idea about the complexities, a referendum is a bad idea.

And to keep it going round in circles, because that's fun....

Who was it that gave the vote and set the rules of it?

Yes, correct. The Remain side.

"It only sounds condescending....". Do you ever repeat what you write to yourself?

[911hope]

bad company said:

911hope said:

bad company said:

We all have our opinions on whether Brexit was or wasn’t a good thing. I just get fed up with the condescending attitude that over 17 million leave voters were at best naive or thick as mince.

Maybe those Remoaners don’t believe in giving normal folk votes so might prefer living in say China or North Korea.

Is that an attempt at reasoning?

Is that an attempt at condescending or remoaning ?

Predictable....