Watch seller renaging on sale of watch

Watch seller renaging on sale of watch

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juice

8,575 posts

284 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Is a contract not fulfilled until money changes hands ?

Watchthis

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269 posts

64 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Googie said:
Bit of a guess but due to length might be this thread re loss of a bargain

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
That's the very chappie. Thank you

Jordie Barretts sock

4,747 posts

21 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Watchthis said:
It's not particularly rare, I can buy it from other vendors and it'll be about £800 - £1500 more expensive (dealers rather than private sale). But it is fairly expensive to me and I'd rather not spend that sort of money additionally if I don't have to.

Thing is, I wouldn't renage on a deal with someone so I won't sit back and accept this willingly. If I have a way of pursuing legal channels I will do.
In that case, how much of your time do you value at £800-1500?


Wills2

23,143 posts

177 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Watchthis said:
Wills2 said:
How was this offer made? Because putting an item up for sale isn't an offer if you're relying on that
I sent the seller an offer, he counter offered and I accepted. All through the official C24 site. Done deal, I was literally in the middle of entering my card details when the message pinged through asking me not to make payment as they had now sold elsewhere. And it's not like there were hours between communicating, this was in the space of around 20mins in total
Well on the face of it there appears to be an offer and acceptance beyond the invitation to treat and you have a bilateral offer and a contract has been formed.





CharlesdeGaulle

26,507 posts

182 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Watchthis said:
It's not particularly rare, I can buy it from other vendors and it'll be about £800 - £1500 more expensive (dealers rather than private sale). But it is fairly expensive to me and I'd rather not spend that sort of money additionally if I don't have to.

Thing is, I wouldn't renage on a deal with someone so I won't sit back and accept this willingly. If I have a way of pursuing legal channels I will do.
If you are going to pursue it, you need to correct your terminology; it's renege.

If 800 quid is important to you then I'd advise that you don't pursue this because, win or lose, it'll cost you much more.

Let's be honest. You tried to buy a watch but it didn't work out. Not exactly worthy of Rumpole of the Bailey, is it?

FWIW

3,083 posts

99 months

Wednesday 15th May
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
If you are going to pursue it, you need to correct your terminology; it's renege.

If 800 quid is important to you then I'd advise that you don't pursue this because, win or lose, it'll cost you much more.

Let's be honest. You tried to buy a watch but it didn't work out. Not exactly worthy of Rumpole of the Bailey, is it?
Why will it cost much more? Looks like a simple case for MCOL.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,507 posts

182 months

Wednesday 15th May
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FWIW said:
Why will it cost much more? Looks like a simple case for MCOL.
Maybe. But if he costs the time he spends on it then I suspect not. Regardless, good luck to him.

Jordie Barretts sock

4,747 posts

21 months

Wednesday 15th May
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FWIW said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
If you are going to pursue it, you need to correct your terminology; it's renege.

If 800 quid is important to you then I'd advise that you don't pursue this because, win or lose, it'll cost you much more.

Let's be honest. You tried to buy a watch but it didn't work out. Not exactly worthy of Rumpole of the Bailey, is it?
Why will it cost much more? Looks like a simple case for MCOL.
Does it?

There's no proof of anything. The 'sale' didn't go through. The OP is aggrieved about that. That isn't what MCOL is for.

FWIW

3,083 posts

99 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
Does it?

There's no proof of anything. The 'sale' didn't go through. The OP is aggrieved about that. That isn't what MCOL is for.
I didn’t mean a simple case to win, just simple to take to court…

dundarach

5,131 posts

230 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Let it go, what a stupid thing to get wound up about!


r3g

3,382 posts

26 months

Wednesday 15th May
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dundarach said:
Let it go, what a stupid thing to get wound up about!
hehe
Not sure if that was imtentional but it was pretty funny. smile

James6112

4,511 posts

30 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Watchthis said:
Seller made an offer and I accepted, using the official "buy it now" button. I added the certification service for an additional £249 and then got the message from the seller that he had now done a deal privately elsewhere. Absolute red flag as it means the fairly expensive watch may be fake and the seller didn't fancy being rumbled but it seems strange they had the certification as an option in that case.

If the seller was just being a chancing bugger then I'm happy to make him jump through legal rings if I have a strong case. He actually admitted he was selling for more elsewhere which is a bit silly in itself
£249 certification?
It’s free on Ebay

Watchthis

Original Poster:

269 posts

64 months

Wednesday 15th May
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
FWIW said:
Why will it cost much more? Looks like a simple case for MCOL.
Maybe. But if he costs the time he spends on it then I suspect not. Regardless, good luck to him.
MCOL cost between £80 and £115 I think it is. Time is valuable but I'm happy to spend the hours required. I'll not lose any sleep over it and will take great delight in causing an unscrupulous watch seller a bit of grief.

Watchthis

Original Poster:

269 posts

64 months

Wednesday 15th May
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James6112 said:
£249 certification?
It’s free on Ebay
It wasn't from there,it's on the popular watch selling platform

VSKeith

782 posts

49 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
Watchthis said:
My contract is with the seller, that is who I would pursue, not the selling platform
Ok. A private individual I presume?

How are you going to approach this? Because they had no obligation to sell to you. They had no idea you were about to hit the button. Why do you think you have any right to force the sale/be compensated?

I understand your frustration, but you are coming across as a bit 'entitled spoilt brat'
Just a few posts in and insults already. Great work

Jordie Barretts sock

4,747 posts

21 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Insults?
rofl

Read that post again. I was say that's how he appeared to be. It wasn't name calling.

Do you get outraged on other people's behalf often?

mcpoot

797 posts

109 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
Insults?
rofl

Read that post again. I was say that's how he appeared to be. It wasn't name calling.

Do you get outraged on other people's behalf often?
Just own your comments in all their rudeness and stop acting like a 'snivelling weasel'.

Jordie Barretts sock

4,747 posts

21 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Why don't you stop being an arrogant stuck up fool and stop getting angry on other people's behalf?

You are not in any position to preach. You are just as bad.

MustangGT

11,700 posts

282 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Watchthis said:
MCOL cost between £80 and £115 I think it is. Time is valuable but I'm happy to spend the hours required. I'll not lose any sleep over it and will take great delight in causing an unscrupulous watch seller a bit of grief.
How do you propose putting a value on the 'loss' you are claiming for? It is not realistic to quote dealer prices against a private sale price, since a dealer is providing a warranty and has certain legal obligations a private seller does not.

If you can find an identical watch for sale by another private seller that costs more then you would have a starting point.

IIRC MCOL costs are based on the value of the claim. If it proceeds and a physical hearing is actually scheduled (unlikely, but could happen) you would need to travel to a court local to the defendant as well.

mcpoot

797 posts

109 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
Why don't you stop being an arrogant stuck up fool and stop getting angry on other people's behalf?

You are not in any position to preach. You are just as bad.
Calm down dear.

Read that post again. I was saying that's what you were just that's what you were like. It wasn't name calling.