The **BOXING** thread (Vol 4)

[Unreal]

I've seen nothing to change my opinion that Usyk wins this. I just hope it's by ko with Fury sparked out or crawling around on his knees looking for his gumshield. However, I can see the fighting man quitting on his stool if it gets too hard.

[tuscaneer]

lord trumpton said:

tuscaneer said:

g4ry13 said:

Usyk coming in almost a stone heavier than he did against AJ. Might be a bit less mobile but potentially be packing a bit more power.

Nah man.... He had big heavy jeans on, big heavy chain.... He's playing games .. Johnny nelson was right on it there... Fury lost his st again.... Usyk still seems like a serial killer.....fury chewing on the gum.... I've seen this st before... And yesterday too .... Not saying it's gonna play a massive part in the result but usyk seems completely unfazed, fury looking wired like a nutter on meow meow

Who you hanging your hat on then tusc?

I'm thinking fury by stoppage before r10. Likely bodyshot

If you couldn't work it out from my Ukraine ottomans t shirt comment..haha!!... Honestly pal .. joking aside I do think it WILL be a very technical, drawn out points decision.... But from watching both guys all the way through from their amateur and pro careers, consistency is the key and usyk has been the consumate, consistent athlete all the way through. Fury has had his drug controversies, the yo yo weight gain, the mental breakdowns, the dodging of rematches etc etc .... And when the chips are down I just feel that usyk is the mentally stronger guy ..... 3 stone deficit or not, he'll win ... He might get stuffed by the judges but I expect usyk to pull away and win by a few rounds regardless of what the judges say ..... This stinking , horrible sport... expect a draw even if usyk clearly wins . . As much as I love it, I fking hate it at the same time

[Pugaris]

tuscaneer said:

Nah man.... He had big heavy jeans on, big heavy chain....

It was a ceremonial weigh in. Think they had already been weighed before?

[Pugaris]

Unreal said:

I've seen nothing to change my opinion that Usyk wins this. I just hope it's by ko with Fury sparked out or crawling around on his knees looking for his gumshield. However, I can see the fighting man quitting on his stool if it gets too hard.

Usyk is giving strong going for a KO vibes to me. I'm really hoping we are looking at another Bud Vs Spence, something a lot of people saw as a 50/50 but in reality was one fighter far above the level of the other who could do whatever they wanted

[lord trumpton]

tuscaneer said:

lord trumpton said:

tuscaneer said:

g4ry13 said:

Usyk coming in almost a stone heavier than he did against AJ. Might be a bit less mobile but potentially be packing a bit more power.

Nah man.... He had big heavy jeans on, big heavy chain.... He's playing games .. Johnny nelson was right on it there... Fury lost his st again.... Usyk still seems like a serial killer.....fury chewing on the gum.... I've seen this st before... And yesterday too .... Not saying it's gonna play a massive part in the result but usyk seems completely unfazed, fury looking wired like a nutter on meow meow

Who you hanging your hat on then tusc?

I'm thinking fury by stoppage before r10. Likely bodyshot

If you couldn't work it out from my Ukraine ottomans t shirt comment..haha!!... Honestly pal .. joking aside I do think it WILL be a very technical, drawn out points decision.... But from watching both guys all the way through from their amateur and pro careers, consistency is the key and usyk has been the consumate, consistent athlete all the way through. Fury has had his drug controversies, the yo yo weight gain, the mental breakdowns, the dodging of rematches etc etc .... And when the chips are down I just feel that usyk is the mentally stronger guy ..... 3 stone deficit or not, he'll win ... He might get stuffed by the judges but I expect usyk to pull away and win by a few rounds regardless of what the judges say ..... This stinking , horrible sport... expect a draw even if usyk clearly wins . . As much as I love it, I fking hate it at the same time

I guess putting it like that, it's definitely an edge he has being the mentally stronger

Regardless of who wins, if both fighters turn up it will be extremely entertaining for the true fans given both of their technical abilities and ring craft

Its a momentous occasion and one to savour imho

It's happening just at the right time in their careers too unlike the equally anticipated MayPac fight

[tuscaneer]

Pugaris said:

tuscaneer said:

Nah man.... He had big heavy jeans on, big heavy chain....

It was a ceremonial weigh in. Think they had already been weighed before?

..not sure dude...

[Pugaris]

lord trumpton said:

It's happening just at the right time in their careers too unlike the equally anticipated MayPac fight

I know there's a st load more context that makes what you're saying totally true. But it's kinda funny that Usyk is only 1 year younger than Mayweather was and Fury 1 year younger than Pacquiao

I think similar to that fight as well, it might be the younger man who shows they are no longer near the peak of their powers with the older man much closer

[tuscaneer]

lord trumpton said:

I guess putting it like that, it's definitely an edge he has being the mentally stronger

Regardless of who wins, if both fighters turn up it will be extremely entertaining for the true fans given both of their technical abilities and ring craft

Its a momentous occasion and one to savour imho

It's happening just at the right time in their careers too unlike the equally anticipated MayPac fight

Agreed pal.... Mayweather Pacquiao should have happened 5 or 6 years earlier... And I still honestly feel a peak pacman would have swarmed Mayweather but we'll never know!

[tuscaneer]

Pugaris said:

lord trumpton said:

It's happening just at the right time in their careers too unlike the equally anticipated MayPac fight

I know there's a st load more context that makes what you're saying totally true. But it's kinda funny that Usyk is only 1 year younger than Mayweather was and Fury 1 year younger than Pacquiao

I think similar to that fight as well, it might be the younger man who shows they are no longer near the peak of their powers with the older man much closer

I think pacman had so many more miles on the clock than Mayweather..and yeah man, I think that fury has weathered more than usyk too ... We'll see soon enough!!!

[jules_s]

I'm not overly taken by either fighter from a personality perspective

I just cant see Usyk 'walking'it after watching all his HW fights the other night back to back.

Given the clear weight /height/ reach advantage combined with skill levels over anybody Usyk has fought to date I'm less convinced as others here.

Looking forward to it though

[EddieSteadyGo]

biggbn said:

...certainly heavier than other weigh ins.

I thought that too. Bit more chunky .

[fridaypassion]

Not seen much shenanigans in Saudi in terms of judging if this fight was in the Garden anything could happen on that front. Still think they drugged Wilder in #2 and I'm no conspiracy theorist! Plus the 18 count in the first fight.... Hopefully the Saudis let the fights just be the fights and none of the dodgy going on that clearly happen in other places.

[philv]

It's hard to see usyk losing.

Unless age catches up with him, i think he'll just be too busy.

Fury is good and has that huge size.
But usyk is truly exceptional in what he does.

[carlo996]

philv said:

It's hard to see usyk losing.

Unless age catches up with him, i think he'll just be too busy.

Fury is good and has that huge size.
But usyk is truly exceptional in what he does.

Smaller, shorter reach, not been in with anyone world class in the HW division. The best version of Fury beats him Question is if this still exists?

[g4ry13]

lord trumpton said:

tuscaneer said:

g4ry13 said:

Usyk coming in almost a stone heavier than he did against AJ. Might be a bit less mobile but potentially be packing a bit more power.

Nah man.... He had big heavy jeans on, big heavy chain.... He's playing games .. Johnny nelson was right on it there... Fury lost his st again.... Usyk still seems like a serial killer.....fury chewing on the gum.... I've seen this st before... And yesterday too .... Not saying it's gonna play a massive part in the result but usyk seems completely unfazed, fury looking wired like a nutter on meow meow

Who you hanging your hat on then tusc?

I'm thinking fury by stoppage before r10. Likely bodyshot

At least someone else agrees with me.

[Pugaris]

carlo996 said:

Smaller, shorter reach, not been in with anyone world class in the HW division. The best version of Fury beats him Question is if this still exists?

Please, enlighten the class on how a Unified World Champion who's won 9 world title fights isn't "World Class"?

[epom]

Looking at the weigh the size difference is quite a lot which isn’t a surprise. The length of Fury’s arms alone !!

[ALTO77]

g4ry13 said:

lord trumpton said:

tuscaneer said:

g4ry13 said:

Usyk coming in almost a stone heavier than he did against AJ. Might be a bit less mobile but potentially be packing a bit more power.

Nah man.... He had big heavy jeans on, big heavy chain.... He's playing games .. Johnny nelson was right on it there... Fury lost his st again.... Usyk still seems like a serial killer.....fury chewing on the gum.... I've seen this st before... And yesterday too .... Not saying it's gonna play a massive part in the result but usyk seems completely unfazed, fury looking wired like a nutter on meow meow

Who you hanging your hat on then tusc?

I'm thinking fury by stoppage before r10. Likely bodyshot

At least someone else agrees with me.

I'm not sure where this body shot nonsense comes from, Usyk has never been stopped. I'm assuming people are looking at footage of low blows and deciding that Usyk is weak to the torso. I think Usyk takes control of the fight early and wins on points quite comfortably, but it will be very dependent on the judges scorecards, so I wouldn't rule out a draw, but to suggest Usyk is weak to the body is utter nonsense. you could debate this fight for months, that's one of the reasons it's so interesting, so hopefully the best man on the night wins, and there isn't any controversy.

[philv]

Which would be the best version of fury?
The one who beat an aged end of career klitchco (on a banned substance) or the one that beat a very limited one dimensional wilder?
Or possibly the one that beat a guy half his size 3 times in chisora?

[Unreal]

It isn't about the best version of either man. It's about the version that fights tomorrow.