Toughest car on sale?
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Desiderata said:
The reason the Landrover (series and defenders) were popular wasn't that they were tough or reliable, it was that when they did break/ rust/ get bumped, everything was replaceable relatively easily and cheaply so that your 1955 series could still be good as new in 2021 or whenever.
Another factor (and this goes way back to 109s and 88s) is that almost everything was interchangeable. So, if you broke something in the middle of Africa you could probably find a local scrapped example and scavenge parts off of it that would do to get it going again.https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/g19661272/lo...
Not surprised to see the Landcruiser at the top.
I was amazed doing a volcano tour in Bolivia, the Landcruisers had 450000km, about 280000 miles them and looked ancient. Although I don't know how they have been used in the past, it wouldn't surprise me if the majority of those miles were done off road. The tour was 90% off road, some bits were quite gnarly.
Not surprised to see the Landcruiser at the top.
I was amazed doing a volcano tour in Bolivia, the Landcruisers had 450000km, about 280000 miles them and looked ancient. Although I don't know how they have been used in the past, it wouldn't surprise me if the majority of those miles were done off road. The tour was 90% off road, some bits were quite gnarly.
Edited by wyson on Wednesday 22 December 13:18
Trevor555 said:
OP did you get something in the end?
I asked a dealer exactly this once, he said G wagon if the budget allows.
Last time I was at the rocket site and MOF surplus they had some low miles Danish army G wagons in: I asked a dealer exactly this once, he said G wagon if the budget allows.
https://www.modsurplus.com/index.php/search-by-des...
If you are looking for rugged and reliable car then it has to be old school with minimal electronics as they don't like to be bashed about.
70 series Landcruisers are definitely the most rugged but they aren't available for sale in UK and seem to have a long waiting list where they are available for sale (Australia, Middle East) so demand a high premium if you really wanted one.
Hilux is the next best thing and offers much better road and offroad manners, it also has a lower CofG so if you are likely to tilt it to the side in an offroad situation, a safer set of wheels. Personally I prefer the pre 2016 models (Vigo, 7th gen) as those have less electronics. Seems to be the vehicle of choice for warlords in remote regions of the world.
Landcruiser 150 (Prado) are pretty good too and offer more creature comfort however they are heavier and more complex than hilux (with same engine) so expect more wear & tear of parts and not as reliable.
Overall Toyotas are very reliable. On my last trip to Middle East on one of my taxi rides I ended up in a 10 year old Rav4 taxi that had 700,000 miles, he said he never had any major issues.
70 series Landcruisers are definitely the most rugged but they aren't available for sale in UK and seem to have a long waiting list where they are available for sale (Australia, Middle East) so demand a high premium if you really wanted one.
Hilux is the next best thing and offers much better road and offroad manners, it also has a lower CofG so if you are likely to tilt it to the side in an offroad situation, a safer set of wheels. Personally I prefer the pre 2016 models (Vigo, 7th gen) as those have less electronics. Seems to be the vehicle of choice for warlords in remote regions of the world.
Landcruiser 150 (Prado) are pretty good too and offer more creature comfort however they are heavier and more complex than hilux (with same engine) so expect more wear & tear of parts and not as reliable.
Overall Toyotas are very reliable. On my last trip to Middle East on one of my taxi rides I ended up in a 10 year old Rav4 taxi that had 700,000 miles, he said he never had any major issues.
808 Estate said:
Stalwart?
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