Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister
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119 said:
smn159 said:
Support for Labour is so strong that there has been little evidence of voters who want the Tories out tactically voting for the Lib Dems when they're in second place. They're going straight to Labour, resulting in some large swings.
Seems as though the majority do believe that Labour is the answer
Well, if they were stupid enough to have voted tory in the past, it's no surprise.Seems as though the majority do believe that Labour is the answer
carlo996 said:
Like the guy on the radio just now….
‘Why did you vote Labour Sir…’
‘My local leisure centre has closed and the roads are really bad, I don’t think the government are listening to me.’
Well. As soon as the magic money tree and wand are employed by Starmer and his cronies I’m sure he’ll have a spangly new leisure centre and all the roads will be like billiard tables.
Probably the same feckless muppet who bought the Brexit lie as well.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the public for cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
They're all feckless and thick except you aren't they Carlo.‘Why did you vote Labour Sir…’
‘My local leisure centre has closed and the roads are really bad, I don’t think the government are listening to me.’
Well. As soon as the magic money tree and wand are employed by Starmer and his cronies I’m sure he’ll have a spangly new leisure centre and all the roads will be like billiard tables.
Probably the same feckless muppet who bought the Brexit lie as well.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the public for cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
Definitely no Dunning–Kruger going on there.
smn159 said:
Support for Labour is so strong that there has been little evidence of voters who want the Tories out tactically voting for the Lib Dems when they're in second place. They're going straight to Labour, resulting in some large swings.
Seems as though the majority do believe that Labour is the answer
And that's just the local elections where the LDs traditionally do well. Seems as though the majority do believe that Labour is the answer
Come the GE there's no viable alternative to Labour and all the red bogeyman project fear nonsense won't change that.
smn159 said:
Support for Labour is so strong that there has been little evidence of voters who want the Tories out tactically voting for the Lib Dems when they're in second place. They're going straight to Labour, resulting in some large swings.
Seems as though the majority do believe that Labour is the answer
Labour are up 20%Seems as though the majority do believe that Labour is the answer
Conservatives are down 53%
Lib Dems are up 20%
Independent are up 110% (don't know if these are traditional independents or ex-Labour incumbents)
Greens are up 78%
Lib Dems getting the same change as Labour (on councillors) relative to their party size.
Mr Penguin said:
smn159 said:
Support for Labour is so strong that there has been little evidence of voters who want the Tories out tactically voting for the Lib Dems when they're in second place. They're going straight to Labour, resulting in some large swings.
Seems as though the majority do believe that Labour is the answer
Labour are up 20%Seems as though the majority do believe that Labour is the answer
Conservatives are down 53%
Lib Dems are up 20%
Independent are up 110% (don't know if these are traditional independents or ex-Labour incumbents)
Greens are up 78%
Lib Dems getting the same change as Labour (on councillors) relative to their party size.
Sir John Curtis said:
There is little sign of the Liberal Democrats being able to persuade Labour supporters to make a tactical switch to them to help defeat the local Conservative incumbent. Securing such tactical support is a vital part of Sir Ed Davey’s general election strategy.
carlo996 said:
smn159 said:
Support for Labour is so strong that there has been little evidence of voters who want the Tories out tactically voting for the Lib Dems when they're in second place. They're going straight to Labour, resulting in some large swings.
Seems as though the majority do believe that Labour is the answer
Like the guy on the radio just now….Seems as though the majority do believe that Labour is the answer
‘Why did you vote Labour Sir…’
‘My local leisure centre has closed and the roads are really bad, I don’t think the government are listening to me.’
Well. As soon as the magic money tree and wand are employed by Starmer and his cronies I’m sure he’ll have a spangly new leisure centre and all the roads will be like billiard tables.
Probably the same feckless muppet who bought the Brexit lie as well.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the public for cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
turbobloke said:
monkfish1 said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said:turbobloke said:
That's naughty. Let the dreamers dream for a while, Starmer really will create an orderly paradise in short order.
See there's the funny thing Turbs.I don't think for a second that he will.
But I don't think you can let such utterly corrupt and bent behaviour go unpunished.
Seems a good old chunk of the electorate agree with that going off todays numbers so far.
They HAVE to be punished. The alternative may prove to be worse in many ways, and probably will be, but to reward the current crowd is simply not something i could, in good conscience, do.
A labour government concerns, me, but its just going to have to be.
I didn't vote to punish Labour on any occasion, after either Healey or Byrne, it's more than a bit silly and ultra-tribal. The issue is about UK prosperity and a better quality of life, that's not happened in recent years and for sure it's not a guarantee with Labour by any means.
The herd can rush over a cliff with you and Stewie in hot pursuit, it's not compulsory for everyone to help with such an enterprise.
The whole idea of democracy is that, if a gouvernment behaves like this, you vote to bring them down. To do otherwise is to normalise and legitimise this kind of behaviour.
It is, to an extant, punishment of abhorrent behaviour. It’s fine to vote this reason. The present gouvernment have shown, by their actions whilst in office, that they cannot be trusted to gouvern.
It doesn’t matter what rosette they wear.
Also, you have a choice of which other rosette to pick. It’s not binary.
Nobody, literally nobody, on this thread thinks it’s going to be all wine and roses under Starmer.
Rather they think, well, the present gouvernment have been an utter disaster, who else can I vote for?
If it was Labour that had made such a massive hash of things, we’d be voting conservative. Which is what is likely to happen in eight years or so.
W124 said:
But, it’s consequences. The present gouvernment have been, inarguably, incredibly incompetent. And extremely corrupt.
The whole idea of democracy is that, if a gouvernment behaves like this, you vote to bring them down. To do otherwise is to normalise and legitimise this kind of behaviour.
It is, to an extant, punishment of abhorrent behaviour. It’s fine to vote this reason. The present gouvernment have shown, by their actions whilst in office, that they cannot be trusted to gouvern.
It doesn’t matter what rosette they wear.
Also, you have a choice of which other rosette to pick. It’s not binary.
Nobody, literally nobody, on this thread thinks it’s going to be all wine and roses under Starmer.
Rather they think, well, the present gouvernment have been an utter disaster, who else can I vote for?
If it was Labour that had made such a massive hash of things, we’d be voting conservative. Which is what is likely to happen in eight years or so.
Indeed.The whole idea of democracy is that, if a gouvernment behaves like this, you vote to bring them down. To do otherwise is to normalise and legitimise this kind of behaviour.
It is, to an extant, punishment of abhorrent behaviour. It’s fine to vote this reason. The present gouvernment have shown, by their actions whilst in office, that they cannot be trusted to gouvern.
It doesn’t matter what rosette they wear.
Also, you have a choice of which other rosette to pick. It’s not binary.
Nobody, literally nobody, on this thread thinks it’s going to be all wine and roses under Starmer.
Rather they think, well, the present gouvernment have been an utter disaster, who else can I vote for?
If it was Labour that had made such a massive hash of things, we’d be voting conservative. Which is what is likely to happen in eight years or so.
Plus, regardless of the multi-page Eeyore Labour doomfest on here, voting Sunak et all in again would achieve the square root of fark all apart from more laughable ineptness.
The hope surely is that if the Conservatives are kicked into the long grass they can shed the loons and become electable again.
ChocolateFrog said:
How can anyone that deluded be allowed anywhere near power. Its blatantly and fundamentally untrue, his friends should be concerned.
They will, but it is not what I would be saying if I was him. This headline won't make much difference in the grand scheme of things, but it'll put a few people off for being presumptuous.W124 said:
turbobloke said:
monkfish1 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:turbobloke said:
That's naughty. Let the dreamers dream for a while, Starmer really will create an orderly paradise in short order.
See there's the funny thing Turbs.I don't think for a second that he will.
But I don't think you can let such utterly corrupt and bent behaviour go unpunished.
Seems a good old chunk of the electorate agree with that going off todays numbers so far.
They HAVE to be punished. The alternative may prove to be worse in many ways, and probably will be, but to reward the current crowd is simply not something i could, in good conscience, do.
A labour government concerns, me, but its just going to have to be.
I didn't vote to punish Labour on any occasion, after either Healey or Byrne, it's more than a bit silly and ultra-tribal. The issue is about UK prosperity and a better quality of life, that's not happened in recent years and for sure it's not a guarantee with Labour by any means.
The herd can rush over a cliff with you and Stewie in hot pursuit, it's not compulsory for everyone to help with such an enterprise.
The whole idea of democracy is that, if a gouvernment behaves like this, you vote to bring them down. To do otherwise is to normalise and legitimise this kind of behaviour.
It is, to an extant, punishment of abhorrent behaviour. It’s fine to vote this reason. The present gouvernment have shown, by their actions whilst in office, that they cannot be trusted to gouvern.
It doesn’t matter what rosette they wear.
Also, you have a choice of which other rosette to pick. It’s not binary.
Nobody, literally nobody, on this thread thinks it’s going to be all wine and roses under Starmer.
Rather they think, well, the present gouvernment have been an utter disaster, who else can I vote for?
If it was Labour that had made such a massive hash of things, we’d be voting conservative. Which is what is likely to happen in eight years or so.
Mr Penguin said:
smn159 said:
Support for Labour is so strong that there has been little evidence of voters who want the Tories out tactically voting for the Lib Dems when they're in second place. They're going straight to Labour, resulting in some large swings.
Seems as though the majority do believe that Labour is the answer
Labour are up 20%Seems as though the majority do believe that Labour is the answer
Conservatives are down 53%
Lib Dems are up 20%
Independent are up 110% (don't know if these are traditional independents or ex-Labour incumbents)
Greens are up 78%
Lib Dems getting the same change as Labour (on councillors) relative to their party size.
Won’t stop Labour getting in at a GE with opposing voters split but I’m sure Curtis will have something to say about it all when this round is all done and dusted.
Curtis already has.
Reform might be about to wipe out the Tories, The Conservative party would have been lucky to have had a 1997-style wipeout. This result may prove terminal
Stick a fork in them they're done.
Reform might be about to wipe out the Tories, The Conservative party would have been lucky to have had a 1997-style wipeout. This result may prove terminal
Stick a fork in them they're done.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Curtis already has.
Reform might be about to wipe out the Tories, The Conservative party would have been lucky to have had a 1997-style wipeout. This result may prove terminal
Stick a fork in them they're done.
I’m not on about the Conservatives - that result was pretty much already predicted - I’m more interested about the potential make up of the HoC following the GE!Reform might be about to wipe out the Tories, The Conservative party would have been lucky to have had a 1997-style wipeout. This result may prove terminal
Stick a fork in them they're done.
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