Teacher guilty of sex with two boys

[bennno]

The lads gave their evidence from behind a screen as the sight of their mile wide grins would have been detrimental to th prosecution

[Electro1980]

Caddyshack said:

Evanivitch said:

105.4 said:

Actually, I don’t.

I’d slept with women of a similar age to this teacher when I was 15. I certainly don’t feel like I was groomed by them.

But your faux-piousness does genuinely raise several moral conundrums.

If it was a 28 year old male teacher with a 15 year old girl, many would be up in arms, (hypocritically, myself included).

The law is the law, and should be applied equally to all, (although often isn’t).

There can’t be equality between men and women if women get a light touch or a free pass on certain things.

If I had a 15 year old son who was banging a reasonably decent looking 28 year old female teacher, I’d probably be high-fiving the lucky bd.

If this had happened to my daughter in a couple of years when she turned 15……well, I wouldn’t be phoning the Police and the end result wouldn’t be cinematic.


Yep, it’s a bit of a tricky one. Best add me to your list as seen as I’m not immediately indignant with faux rage.

Perhaps you don't understand the position of responsibility teachers are put in to protect children, and the obvious grooming through gifts that went on here.

It's not quite drinking underage in the pub and being taken for a quick ride by the local mutton.

That’s a good point.

I think the above poster is not arguing that what she did was very wrong, it is just that the boys may not feel like victims.

They were groomed. She was buying them expensive gifts. They were manipulated and this will have a serious life long impact.

We need to stop this BS that boys can’t be victims. This is why boys are having so many problems at the moment. Always seen as perpetrators and never as victims. They absolutely are victims here, of being manipulated and abused by someone with direct and very real power over them.

All I can think of with all the people claiming they would have thought it great at that age is this:

[pork911]

bennno said:

The lads gave their evidence from behind a screen as the sight of their mile wide grins would have been detrimental to th prosecution

Were you ever sexually abused as a child by someone in a position of trust and authority over you?

[22]

I had a brief 'sexual' encounter (not penetrative) with a teacher at secondary school (so it wasn't repeated behaviour like this story). All the lads fancied the pants off her (I was a clown but no oil painting) and I went from largely anonymous kid to school 'famous' in one moment. All the attention was positive, it genuinely helped me get female attention when previously I had none. Honestly it gave me a confidence that has followed me through life. I was never shy chatting to girls in pubs and clubs - the good looking lads would fear rejection, I didn't care. I have punched above my weight with ladies all my life - I think in part due to this one moment and the reaction to it. Two cracking looking girls once had a verbal altercation in a pub about ME (I'm married to one today).

Was I a victim? er, nope.

I was also run over intentionally by my geography teacher at very slow speed! I was picked up and told to stop being a dick. Rightly so. I think times have changed somewhat! Both could be in a spot of bother today.

[Tango13]

Electro1980 said:

They were groomed. She was buying them expensive gifts. They were manipulated and this will have a serious life long impact.

We need to stop this BS that boys can’t be victims. This is why boys are having so many problems at the moment. Always seen as perpetrators and never as victims. They absolutely are victims here, of being manipulated and abused by someone with direct and very real power over them.

Agree with all of this.

The boy that fathered her child now has both the emotional and financial responsibility to deal with for the rest of his life unless the child he fathered gets adopted into a stable loving family. Just what the average 15yo boy needs to be dealing with, not!!

She really has royally fked up several peoples lives here, the two boys, their familes, the child and her own, not that I have any sympathy for her.

[Mr Penguin]

Even with adoption it will be on his mind and an emotional weight all the time.

[otolith]

Caddyshack said:

I have to agree and we shouldn’t be scared to admit that either IMO. I was a Randy bugger at 15 and was very glad of any nookie I could get.

Which, combined with their emotional immaturity and poor decision making, is a bloody good reason not to let paedophile teachers fk them with impunity.

[Rufus Stone]

williamp said:

Yes. The daily mail are using terms such as paedopnile and grooming. These are the correct terms. The boys were not "lucky"

Partly, she isn't a paedophile.

[Pistom]

It's heartwarming to see how supportive her father is.

It must take enormous strength of character to stand by your kids when they've gone wrong like this.

[JagLover]

bennno said:

The lads gave their evidence from behind a screen as the sight of their mile wide grins would have been detrimental to th prosecution

[fourstardan]

Rufus Stone said:

Partly, she isn't a paedophile.

No she isn't but she may have had similar encounters of this in earlier life to feel like going to levels of where she has is acceptable.

[Rufus Stone]

fourstardan said:

No she isn't but she may have had similar encounters of this in earlier life to feel like going to levels of where she has is acceptable.

You appear to be searching to make excuses for her behaviour.

[dundarach]

bennno said:

The lads gave their evidence from behind a screen as the sight of their mile wide grins would have been detrimental to th prosecution

Desperately immature thing to write, especially so in jest.

One of them became a father for fks sake.

[gotoPzero]

bhstewie said:

Some people here clearly can’t tell right from wrong.

+1.

I have been saying for years on here that there is an increase in female teachers having sexual activity with boys. It seriously needs looking into but because literally a massive chunk of the population go "nudge nudge wink wink lucky sods..." its never going to happen.

They are kids. Simple as that. The fact she was bang at it after the first arrest is just crazy to me.

Prison, at least 10 years. IMO.

I highly doubt its going to happen though. I have heard daddy has a few quid, so no doubt 6 months suspended for 2 years.

[bitchstewie]

OddCat said:

bhstewie said:

Change the thread title to “Male Teacher Guilty of Sex with Two 15 year old Boys” and see how many people would be saying "lucky bds" and "they would have loved it”.

Some people here clearly can’t tell right from wrong.

....and some people here clearly can't tell natural situation from an unnatural situation.

"an unnatural situation"

You might have to explain that one as I'm assuming and hoping it doesn't mean what it sounds like.

[Electro1980]

Rufus Stone said:

Partly, she isn't a paedophile.

“Technically the definition of a paedophile is…” give it a rest. She’s a predator who abused her position of power to groom and assault children. The fact that the popular definition diverges from the dictionary definition is irrelevant and an argument to be had elsewhere.

[bitchstewie]

gotoPzero said:

+1.

I have been saying for years on here that there is an increase in female teachers having sexual activity with boys. It seriously needs looking into but because literally a massive chunk of the population go "nudge nudge wink wink lucky sods..." its never going to happen.

They are kids. Simple as that. The fact she was bang at it after the first arrest is just crazy to me.

Prison, at least 10 years. IMO.

I highly doubt its going to happen though. I have heard daddy has a few quid, so no doubt 6 months suspended for 2 years.

I don't know what a typical sentence looks like for this.

From what I read it sounds like she had a few problems going on but that might explain it I'm not sure it excuses it or counts as mitigation especially when in a position of trust.

I'm pretty sure that if a 30 year old male teacher split up with his partner and took to banging the kids this thread would be going a little differently.

[Dagnir]

pork911 said:

Dagnir said:

pork911 said:

on the list.

The narcissism to think this means anything is wonderfully hilarious.

The scale of the stupidity to misinterpret it that way is astonishing

Because 3 words is such a specific use of language right?


Why don't explain what you meant, then everyone can see my astonishing stupidity?

Edited by Dagnir on Saturday 18th May 07:56

[Getragdogleg]

Its impossible to try and put in neat little boxes because its not something you can put in a neat little box.

Drawing an arbitrary line in the air and saying you can only X from Y age does not fit everyone and never can in the real world.

The crime here is abuse of the trust and duty of care to not do what she did, if this had arisen because she had met the boys in different circumstances, say for example at a pub or club, then id bet there would have been no court case.

As a 15 year old lad 35 years ago I was out and about on fake ID and although I at the time I never got myself involved with any older women Id have been knee deep in minutes if I had the chance.

She's an idiot who has ruined her own life, I reckon the boys will be just fine although the one who got her pregnant is going to have had a lesson in consequences nice and early.



28 year old Men trying to get with 15 year old girls is creepy no matter the circumstances, that's the way it is in law and in real life and Its way worse when the man is a teacher.

[Rufus Stone]

Electro1980 said:

“Technically the definition of a paedophile is…” give it a rest. She’s a predator who abused her position of power to groom and assault children. The fact that the popular definition diverges from the dictionary definition is irrelevant and an argument to be had elsewhere.

Definitions matter, or at least they should. The fact that the likes of the Daily Mail will describe anyone having sex with someone under the age of consent as a paedophile does not make it the popular definition.

Edited by Rufus Stone on Saturday 18th May 07:59