Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party? (Vol. 2)

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williamp said:

anonymoususer said:

This kind of stuff just happens. It's not a big thing. In fact its probably just an oversight. Sir Keir and I would suggest all the Labour top team are very busy so stuff gets overlooked.
Just about everyone I know has forgot to pay a bill or something.

Its easy to do. Unlike bringing cake. That was unforgiveable. Millions killed by the other lot who brought some cake with them

Wasn’t it Colin the Caterpillar too. Love that.

[julian987R]

Uh oh!

Rachel Reeves has said millions of families will save an average of £445 on energy bills under their plans to insulate 5 million homes in 5 years. That all sounds well and good. The only problem is that, true to form, the sums don’t add up…

To insulate a home and bring them into the efficiency ‘band C’ costs an average of £7,500. So if Labour are committed to their pledges, it will cost the government £37.5 billion. Which means it will cost you…

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/towns-most-...

[Wombat3]

julian987R said:

Uh oh!

Rachel Reeves has said millions of families will save an average of £445 on energy bills under their plans to insulate 5 million homes in 5 years. That all sounds well and good. The only problem is that, true to form, the sums don’t add up…

To insulate a home and bring them into the efficiency ‘band C’ costs an average of £7,500. So if Labour are committed to their pledges, it will cost the government £37.5 billion. Which means it will cost you…

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/towns-most-...

It's OK she has plenty of time to row back / dilute / u turn on that one before the election

[119]

No, it'll only cost 9 ish billion because they still have the 28 they were going to spend on a 'green' policy so there is that money available.

Oh wait...

[Wombat3]

119 said:

No, it'll only cost 9 ish billion because they still have the 28 they were going to spend on a 'green' policy so there is that money available.

Oh wait...

I guess they'll get it from the non-doms...

[frisbee]

Wombat3 said:

I guess they'll get it from the non-doms...

What's wrong with going after non-doms? That's official Tory policy now you Corbyn loving commie!

[Baroque attacks]

Ellie Reeves MP being sent out by Labour to answer to Sky News this morning, not exactly having a great Friday.

Although she is keen to remind us Labour have changed.

If someone keeps telling you they have changed you have to think why they feel the need to keep telling you.

[Wombat3]

Baroque attacks said:

Ellie Reeves MP being sent out by Labour to answer to Sky News this morning, not exactly having a great Friday.

Although she is keen to remind us Labour have changed.

If someone keeps telling you they have changed you have to think why they feel the need to keep telling you.

They've changed their position on so many thing so many times it's not really possible to know what they actually believe in any more. Its hard to keep up.

[BikeBikeBIke]

frisbee said:

What's wrong with going after non-doms? That's official Tory policy now you Corbyn loving commie!

That doesn't mean it isn't stupid.

[KarlMac]

Starmer is doing such a good job he’s even reviving Reform now.

https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/17635196...

Is there a genuine possibility that the Tories finish 3rd? What happens if the infamous ‘quiet Tories’ are actually Quiet Reformers?

[768]

I suspect it's more likely that the Reform vote will collapse when it comes to crunch time.

[julian987R]

768 said:

I suspect it's more likely that the Reform vote will collapse when it comes to crunch time.

and the Labour vote too, as we have seen in Rochdale.

I did say just wait for the tide to change - its low tide, but its coming in now.

[TTwiggy]

julian987R said:

768 said:

I suspect it's more likely that the Reform vote will collapse when it comes to crunch time.

and the Labour vote too, as we have seen in Rochdale.

I did say just wait for the tide to change - its low tide, but its coming in now.

Keep grasping at those straws chap.

[greygoose]

julian987R said:

768 said:

I suspect it's more likely that the Reform vote will collapse when it comes to crunch time.

and the Labour vote too, as we have seen in Rochdale.

I did say just wait for the tide to change - its low tide, but its coming in now.

What do you think the Tories are doing well at the moment (or even competently)?

[Seasonal Hero]

julian987R said:

and the Labour vote too, as we have seen in Rochdale.

I did say just wait for the tide to change - its low tide, but its coming in now.

You’d have to be particularly clueless to think that Rochdale is anything but a very strange outlier.

[Randy Winkman]

Seasonal Hero said:

julian987R said:

and the Labour vote too, as we have seen in Rochdale.

I did say just wait for the tide to change - its low tide, but its coming in now.

You’d have to be particularly clueless to think that Rochdale is anything but a very strange outlier.

Perhaps all of the UK's Muslims are going to vote Tory?

[monkfish1]

greygoose said:

julian987R said:

768 said:

I suspect it's more likely that the Reform vote will collapse when it comes to crunch time.

and the Labour vote too, as we have seen in Rochdale.

I did say just wait for the tide to change - its low tide, but its coming in now.

What do you think the Tories are doing well at the moment (or even competently)?

Corruption and theft.

[Baroque attacks]

julian987R said:

and the Labour vote too, as we have seen in Rochdale.

I did say just wait for the tide to change - its low tide, but its coming in now.

[anonymoususer]

julian987R said:

768 said:

I suspect it's more likely that the Reform vote will collapse when it comes to crunch time.

and the Labour vote too, as we have seen in Rochdale.

I did say just wait for the tide to change - its low tide, but its coming in now.

Errrr
Labour didn't field a candidate did they ? He became an ex Labour candidate possibly independent

[Seasonal Hero]

anonymoususer said:

Errrr
Labour didn't field a candidate did they ? He became an ex Labour candidate possibly independent

No - Julian thinks that what happened when Labour didn't canvas for a candidate and withdrew support, and within a very specific environment somehow translates to the GE.

Edited by Seasonal Hero on Saturday 2nd March 11:25