USA Gratuity And/Or Tip?

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Tuesday 12th December 2023
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There’s been several threads on tipping in America but this threw me a bit. They’ve charged a gratuity then also looking for a tip?

Tipping getting horrible here. Even places like Starbucks with no table service they’re looking for tips.


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Muzzer79 said:
Getting more common now
I saw on social media that there’s now a promotion to ‘thank’ your delivery driver (FedEx/Amazon/etc)……..with a $5 tip.
The Americans were all over it, thinking it’s a great idea. They’ll not learn.
Yes I also read that when looking up tipping protocols where there’s a gratuity.

Anyway I paid the gratuity but no tip. I also don’t tip in Starbucks etc.

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Wednesday 13th December 2023
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phil-sti said:
Don’t tip in fast food or coffee shops, tip at bars and restaurants. Seems to work for me.
Exactly and that always worked for me but there’s a lot more expectation now.

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Thursday 14th December 2023
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Slightly different take at Fords Garage Bar, they’re calling it a ‘Service Fee’. Though to be fair they do say that they don’t expect additional gratuities. We just had drinks now sat down for food. Bet they’ll expect a tip on top.




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Thursday 14th December 2023
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djc206 said:
Panamax said:
Is it generally cheaper to eat & drink in USA than UK, after tipping? Yes
Once upon a time maybe. It’s insanely expensive now, way more than the U.K.
I disagree. After I posted yesterday’s receipt Mrs BC & I had another pint of beer each + burgers & chips. Total $60.71 including the service charge. Didn’t think that was too bad.

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paulguitar said:
bad company said:
I disagree. After I posted yesterday’s receipt Mrs BC & I had another pint of beer each + burgers & chips. Total $60.71 including the service charge. Didn’t think that was too bad.


Rather a small sample size.
Fair comment but generally I find drinks more expensive in the USA but eating out food a bit cheaper.

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Friday 15th December 2023
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Sadly this poo is contagious. This popped up on a UK website when I was buying a couple of shirts.


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Matt Harper said:
I haven't lived in the UK for a long time, but I don't recall people in supermarkets and fast food joints over there being educated, eloquent and typically welcoming and engaging. Quite the contrary, in most cases, if memory serves me.

This thread has a recurring theme - i.e. British people bhing about the tip culture in the USA. It isn't a legal requirement. If the level of service does not warrant it, don't give it. If you are such a tight-fisted git that you refuse to recognize good service, then don't. If you are easily coerced into handing over a tip, despite your reluctance then more fool you.

Where I live (Central Florida), Brit tourists have a bit of a reputation for being miserly, but is generally recognized as being more a cultural/environmental difference than out-and-out meanness. Generally, service is very good here. The only time I ever got into a spat with a server I chose not to tip (Orlando Alehouse on Kirkman Rd) - the sever was Irish, not American.

Personally, I think the subject has been hammered about as flat as it's ever going to get...
Some fair points there. Mrs BC and I still live in the UK but family in Sarasota/Bradenton area so spend a lot of time here. Tipping is an uncomfortable experience for a lot of Brits but we got accustomed to it.

I started the thread as the introduction of a gratuity is new to me. I bet a lot of Americans will tip on top of the gratuity.

As a matter of interest do you tip where there’s no table service such as a Starbucks or self service hotel buffet breakfast where the server just brings coffee?

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Saturday 16th December 2023
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ATG said:
It's a ridiculous system which is why nowhere else in the civilised world does anything even vaguely similar.
I agree but:-

Their country, their system. If you don’t like there’s plenty of other places to go.

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Saturday 16th December 2023
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Boxster5 said:
France by comparison with the US is vastly more civilised (have you ever been?). You can visit the same bar or restaurant on consecutive nights in the US and they wouldn’t even recognise you.
France is a lot more sophisticated than the fake US “all we really want is your money culture”. Been to the US many times but haven’t been for around 5 years because of the above reasons and probably never will return.
Couldn’t disagree more. I’m in the USA a lot and always made to feel very welcome. The service is also usually very good.

The French service can be aloof, like they’re doing us a favour.

Each to their own.

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Boxster5 said:
Perhaps your experience of France (and the French) comes from not speaking their language. Discount Paris and the Cote D’Azur and service and attitude is generally fine.
They don’t slam down the “check” whilst you’re still eating and write on the bill what 15%, 18% & 20% equals with a smiley face scribbled on. That shows you how long ago that was - apparently it’s all printed on the bill now but the upper level is 25%!
I’ve never had the ‘cheque slammed down while I’m still eating’. I do hate the % tip shown on it though. Particularly that they often base the % on the bill including tax.

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Sunday 17th December 2023
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Boxster5 said:
bad company said:
Boxster5 said:
Perhaps your experience of France (and the French) comes from not speaking their language. Discount Paris and the Cote D’Azur and service and attitude is generally fine.
They don’t slam down the “check” whilst you’re still eating and write on the bill what 15%, 18% & 20% equals with a smiley face scribbled on. That shows you how long ago that was - apparently it’s all printed on the bill now but the upper level is 25%!
I’ve never had the ‘cheque slammed down while I’m still eating’. I do hate the % tip shown on it though. Particularly that they often base the % on the bill including tax.
The thing is, how do they not know we want another drink or even dessert? I get that in the US, they expect 4 sittings on an evening so want a quick turnaround but it’s hardly welcoming.
How many times has that happened to you?

I can’t recall that ever happening to me in any country.

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Tuesday 19th December 2023
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
You were eating in a clothing store?
Several Tommy Bahama stores have restaurants including the one where I am now in Naples, Florida.

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Tuesday 19th December 2023
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Truckosaurus said:
I think the overlap of starters and mains is because the septics seem to like ordering a starter instead of a main course due to the portion sizes - and are more likely to get a doggy dog to take home left overs (even at high end places) - so they aren't as squeamish about all the food being on the table at once.
Also Americans seem to think fast service is better. We just order our starters then the main course when finished.

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Boxster5 said:
bad company said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
You were eating in a clothing store?
Several Tommy Bahama stores have restaurants including the one where I am now in Naples, Florida.
Yes been to that one - it’s one of the best!
It has to be. There’s a lot of competition in Naples.

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Thursday 21st December 2023
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Just had coffee & cake in a cafe at Bradenton, Florida. The suggested tip was 18, 20, 25 or 30%!!! yikes

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Friday 22nd December 2023
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Panamax said:
bad company said:
Just had coffee & cake in a cafe at Bradenton, Florida. The suggested tip was 18, 20, 25 or 30%!!! yikes
That's not the point. How did the "price" compare with your local High Street in UK?
About the most expensive cafe in the area:-

https://www.mademoiselleparis.com/

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Saturday 17th February
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RayDonovan said:
Highest we've seen is 30%.

Certainly feels like you've constantly got your hand in your pocket when you stay in a hotel...
You don’t ‘have’ to do anything. I tip in bars & restaurants where there isn’t a service charge. Never where there’s no table service like Starbucks or Subway.

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havoc said:
yikes

How much? I'd be investing in a good coffee machine and a good flask at those prices, that's ludicrous...especially for Starbucks ste!
That’s Canadian $’s so about $4.80 in US.

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paulguitar said:
markiii said:
I always want my change, if I leave it as a tip that's my choice. If you assume your getting sweet fa
That's fine in the UK, and presumably, that's where you live/have grown up.


In the USA the culture is different, it's that simple. You can act as if you're back home, but it won't go down at all well. I learnt to change my behaviour quickly. Even after more than two decades, I still see myself as a guest in their country.
I agree. We don’t live in the USA but very regular visitors. Tipping is just how it is over there. A case of ‘when in Rome’ for me.