Miscreants on a Train
Discussion
thetapeworm said:
It can be complex for non-Indonesian’s to purchase a property in Indonesia. Ownership rules protect the nationals. jdw100 said:
Also what a lot of tourists (and the recent Russian diaspora) don’t realise is you aren’t threatening one Balinese person - you are threatening all of them, this then escalates to all Indonesians then all people in the community regardless of origin.
Absolutely love that. Long may it continue.Edited by jdw100 on Thursday 16th May 10:11
Phil. said:
thetapeworm said:
It can be complex for non-Indonesian’s to purchase a property in Indonesia. Ownership rules protect the nationals. 
thetapeworm said:
Another plus point I guess, it would me a pipe dream for me anyway but it's always nice to look at what I could have instead of a generic Town House
Although Bali and its people are lovely, having been out there for 5 weeks in March this year I could never live there. The heat was too much for me, 35C in the shade and very little relief in the evening. Then when it rains it’s torrential. That plus the lack of infrastructure means it’s a no for me however lovely and cheap the houses look. Edited by Phil. on Thursday 16th May 15:45
thetapeworm said:
You probably arePhil. said:
Although Bali and its people are lovely, having been out there for 5 weeks in March this year I could never live there. The heat was too much for me, 35C in the shade and very little relief in the evening. Then when it rains it’s torrential. That plus the lack of infrastructure means it’s a no for me however lovely and cheap the houses look.
the heat i would get used to, lived in just as hot places, and the rain, well its just rain, but you are right about the infrastructure, however the uk is soon heading to be as bad. lack of medical care would be my biggest worry, and what keeps me in uk and usa.Edited by Phil. on Thursday 16th May 15:45
Phil. said:
thetapeworm said:
It can be complex for non-Indonesian’s to purchase a property in Indonesia. Ownership rules protect the nationals. Govt have finally cottoned on that getting external funds in to country is a good idea. Visas are a hurdle for some. I know people that have done monthly flights to Singapore for 10+ years.
Overall systems are improving but Indo is very two steps forward one step back.
richhead said:
Phil. said:
Although Bali and its people are lovely, having been out there for 5 weeks in March this year I could never live there. The heat was too much for me, 35C in the shade and very little relief in the evening. Then when it rains it’s torrential. That plus the lack of infrastructure means it’s a no for me however lovely and cheap the houses look.
the heat i would get used to, lived in just as hot places, and the rain, well its just rain, but you are right about the infrastructure, however the uk is soon heading to be as bad. lack of medical care would be my biggest worry, and what keeps me in uk and usa.Edited by Phil. on Thursday 16th May 15:45
Also temp is lovely in evenings at 24C.
Head a little bit up North and I am wearing jeans and a fleece in the evenings.
Traffic is awful in the south, with even local rat-runs getting heavy traffic. A tube train system has just broken ground from airport to tourist destinations plus new roads are being built.
Can be difficult due to local concerns re environment and character of island. Simple solution would be an new MRT like in Jakarta but Balinese don’t want those sort of raised structures.
Its a boom time here since last year of Covid (no lock down) and I love the dynamism of our area. If a person is the sort that posts on here about ‘a dog barks in the night how do I contact police?’ then its probably not the place for them!
More on topic: crack down on loud bike exhausts recently as people are fed up. Police have been stopping people, confiscating the bike and removing and displaying the exhausts outside police stations/posts as a lesson.
I see police everyday. Regular traffic police guy at crossroads near our house. Several little police posts within a square km. Have our local policeman’s number. We have local security patrols at night, driving round in trucks.
Police are not routinely armed.
Not as wild as it once was though. When I first moved here there was an issue with a guy who had rented a house at the end of our narrow winding street that has several 90degree turns. He would race through very fast on a rented trail bike. Told off by people as there are people, kids, dogs, chickens etc. Ignored this. Maniac.
Local community security went to see him and it calmed down for a week. Started again and had a very near miss with one of my neighbour’s kids.
Next morning idiot sets off again nears my neighbour’s house. Neighbour took him off with a big plank of wood, gave him a good kicking and smashed up the bike. Guy was hobbling around for a few days, two black eyes, arm in a sling, then left the area. Any recourse…none. Had been told not to do it, so Police would say its his fault. Especially as my neighbour is a decent person…for a Frenchman…residents, community security would have backed him.
These days i think it might be a different story.
Edited by jdw100 on Friday 17th May 03:31
s off the locals and it'll be a long ride out into the bush , no matter what time of year , a smarten up followed by a long lonely walk home . We don't get much trouble 
jdw100 said:
More on topic: crack down on loud bike exhausts recently as people are fed up. Police have been stopping people, confiscating the bike and removing and displaying the exhausts outside police stations/posts as a lesson.
thats brilliant, I would vote for stingers in SW London for bikes with stupid loud exhaustsBeen to Bali a few times and ts a wonderful place (except Kuta)
Adam. said:
jdw100 said:
More on topic: crack down on loud bike exhausts recently as people are fed up. Police have been stopping people, confiscating the bike and removing and displaying the exhausts outside police stations/posts as a lesson.
thats brilliant, I would vote for stingers in SW London for bikes with stupid loud exhaustsBeen to Bali a few times and ts a wonderful place (except Kuta)
Probably won’t bother again. Since covid vast swathes of it have been bought up and are being redeveloped. It’s very quiet there indeed and nothing of interest to note. Very disappointing really.
In the day if passing through you really see the demise of the fat dad, fat mum, fat daughter with purple hair and fat 10 year old son. All with full sleeves and leg tattoos (not the ten year old) and singlets. Groups of fat ladies in their 30s in stock uniform of black maxi dress, big sunglasses and jewelled sandals. Men with big guts, shirtless in town with chunky gold jewellery, wraparound Oakleys and a Bintang beer. These tribes have sadly all but gone it seems.
Going elsewhere (Thailand?) or staying at home?
Some discussion that legalising weed has drawn many more tourists to Thailand, certainly led to an out-flux of Russians from here. The Russians are another story all together….!
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