Dealing with travelers when selling things
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Block and move on.
Or if you want to be a bit more polite, remove some items and say "sorry, someone came and bought them up" Then block after 24hrs so he can read it.
You wont be able to readvertise them on eBay/facebook though as he'll see them via another of his scam accounts.
Best case scenario you let someone you dont know and wont ever meet down.
Worst case scenario, you're out the tools and £2k in break and entry repairs!
Or if you want to be a bit more polite, remove some items and say "sorry, someone came and bought them up" Then block after 24hrs so he can read it.
You wont be able to readvertise them on eBay/facebook though as he'll see them via another of his scam accounts.
Best case scenario you let someone you dont know and wont ever meet down.
Worst case scenario, you're out the tools and £2k in break and entry repairs!
BunkMoreland said:
Block and move on.
Or if you want to be a bit more polite, remove some items and say "sorry, someone came and bought them up" Then block after 24hrs so he can read it.
You wont be able to readvertise them on eBay/facebook though as he'll see them via another of his scam accounts.
Best case scenario you let someone you dont know and wont ever meet down.
Worst case scenario, you're out the tools and £2k in break and entry repairs!
Or you sell him some tools,he actually pays, then soon after threatens you , saying he wants some money back because they are faulty-they know where you live then aswell.Or if you want to be a bit more polite, remove some items and say "sorry, someone came and bought them up" Then block after 24hrs so he can read it.
You wont be able to readvertise them on eBay/facebook though as he'll see them via another of his scam accounts.
Best case scenario you let someone you dont know and wont ever meet down.
Worst case scenario, you're out the tools and £2k in break and entry repairs!
It will not have a single positive outcome for you …..
I'm going to go against the grain here.
A mate of mine runs a garage, he deals with the travelling community and has done for over 20 years. My observations being around them are:
Negatives:
-They do act a bit entitled and you need to be quite sharp to sense when they are winding you up & being serious as despite all acting like hard nuts they are rather touchy and thin skinned, assume the worse, and allow them to laugh at you being wound up as the reverse is not palatable.
-The whole thing of never ever counting cash in front of them is real, but if they rip you off they'll only do it once.
-They have a habit of going everywhere mob handed, which is intimidating, but you soon realise that's just how they are.
-Never ever, EVER stare too hard or make a wise crack about their women, no matter how ridiculously they are dressed or behaving.
-Their kids are all mad. However once you know them a simple 'Billy, go & see your dad' nips it in the bud.
-If you are the sort of person who makes up for a lack of brain by backing it up with brawn steer clear.
Positives:
-Once they realise that you are not prejudiced they treat you very well.
-The power of word of mouth in that community is immense. If one has a good experience buying or selling with you they tell all their mates and you will never want for work.
-The whole thing of never ever counting cash in front of them is real, if you trust them they never ever short change you.
-Compared to normal people they actually have very realistic expectations of second hand gear and if it breaks are quite reasonable. I'd rather sell a second hand car to a Traveller than to a normal person in this regard.
-They aren't tight and will pay good money for good stuff.
-If you are the sort of person who makes up for a lack of brawn by using your brain then you'll be fine.
Meet them, be friendly, offer them a drink. Do a deal.
Be open and treat them like normal people, chances are you haven't got what they'd risk stealing.
Get a CCTV camera from Amazon. Once they leave write down all the vehicle reg numbers etc. If they do steal from you at least you have some sort of evidence to go to the Police with, but in my experience and friendly attitude backed up with a CCTV camera will mean they won't steal from you.
A chippy attitude, keeping everything around you under lock and key, acting like the crown jewels are in that shed and no they can't look in there, counting money and not budging on price means that they'd nick everything including your yard broom on principle.
A mate of mine runs a garage, he deals with the travelling community and has done for over 20 years. My observations being around them are:
Negatives:
-They do act a bit entitled and you need to be quite sharp to sense when they are winding you up & being serious as despite all acting like hard nuts they are rather touchy and thin skinned, assume the worse, and allow them to laugh at you being wound up as the reverse is not palatable.
-The whole thing of never ever counting cash in front of them is real, but if they rip you off they'll only do it once.
-They have a habit of going everywhere mob handed, which is intimidating, but you soon realise that's just how they are.
-Never ever, EVER stare too hard or make a wise crack about their women, no matter how ridiculously they are dressed or behaving.
-Their kids are all mad. However once you know them a simple 'Billy, go & see your dad' nips it in the bud.
-If you are the sort of person who makes up for a lack of brain by backing it up with brawn steer clear.
Positives:
-Once they realise that you are not prejudiced they treat you very well.
-The power of word of mouth in that community is immense. If one has a good experience buying or selling with you they tell all their mates and you will never want for work.
-The whole thing of never ever counting cash in front of them is real, if you trust them they never ever short change you.
-Compared to normal people they actually have very realistic expectations of second hand gear and if it breaks are quite reasonable. I'd rather sell a second hand car to a Traveller than to a normal person in this regard.
-They aren't tight and will pay good money for good stuff.
-If you are the sort of person who makes up for a lack of brawn by using your brain then you'll be fine.
Meet them, be friendly, offer them a drink. Do a deal.
Be open and treat them like normal people, chances are you haven't got what they'd risk stealing.
Get a CCTV camera from Amazon. Once they leave write down all the vehicle reg numbers etc. If they do steal from you at least you have some sort of evidence to go to the Police with, but in my experience and friendly attitude backed up with a CCTV camera will mean they won't steal from you.
A chippy attitude, keeping everything around you under lock and key, acting like the crown jewels are in that shed and no they can't look in there, counting money and not budging on price means that they'd nick everything including your yard broom on principle.
Probably not worth the risk...or as others have said...meet them somewhere neutral where people will be around. I even do this when selling to non travellers...
The fact that he mentioned not robbing you says his mindset is that he needs to assure you that he's not going to rob you so he can then rob you.
Most likely he will do the deal, check out what else you have and then a few days later you garage will be emptied.
Not all travellers are thieves but is it really worth the risk?
The fact that he mentioned not robbing you says his mindset is that he needs to assure you that he's not going to rob you so he can then rob you.
Most likely he will do the deal, check out what else you have and then a few days later you garage will be emptied.
Not all travellers are thieves but is it really worth the risk?
Edited by Ben Jk on Thursday 16th May 09:55
Stick Legs said:
A chippy attitude, keeping everything around you under lock and key, acting like the crown jewels are in that shed and no they can't look in there, counting money and not budging on price means that they'd nick everything including your yard broom on principle.
So basically if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck etc etcI’d just say someone else is coming at x and then hope they go away
We sell all our old kids stuff etc on and when something doesn’t feel right we make an excuse, you’ll always sell it
If using Facebook id recommend a generic account not related to you, if we were selling anything other than kids toys like power tools I’d probably do the same.
I’d also try and meet away from home, but I appreciate this could spook genuine folk
We sell all our old kids stuff etc on and when something doesn’t feel right we make an excuse, you’ll always sell it
If using Facebook id recommend a generic account not related to you, if we were selling anything other than kids toys like power tools I’d probably do the same.
I’d also try and meet away from home, but I appreciate this could spook genuine folk
stinkyspanner said:
I did a job for one once without realising it until they showed up at my garage. I treat everyone the same until I have a reason not to so was surprised to recieve a death threat because I would (not?) drop the price by 75%.
Just don't get involved
It's been two hours and eleven minutes, I'm surprised that the PH Spelling Police haven't got involved...Just don't get involved
Edited by glenrobbo on Thursday 16th May 14:40
Just in case though !
Meet them, be friendly, offer them a drink. Do a deal.
Be open and treat them like normal people, chances are you haven't got what they'd risk stealing.
Get a CCTV camera from Amazon. Once they leave write down all the vehicle reg numbers etc. If they do steal from you at least you have some sort of evidence to go to the Police with, but in my experience and friendly attitude backed up with a CCTV camera will mean they won't steal from you.
Meet them, be friendly, offer them a drink. Do a deal.
Be open and treat them like normal people, chances are you haven't got what they'd risk stealing.
Get a CCTV camera from Amazon. Once they leave write down all the vehicle reg numbers etc. If they do steal from you at least you have some sort of evidence to go to the Police with, but in my experience and friendly attitude backed up with a CCTV camera will mean they won't steal from you.
paulw123 said:
They will prob buy what you have for sale, then turn up 2 nights later and help themselves to everything else you have tool wise. Happened to a good friend.
Police to their credit did catch the bloke but mate never got any of his tools back
Exactly the same happened to my next door neighbour. Police to their credit did catch the bloke but mate never got any of his tools back
I would say it's a shame, but he's a narcissistic ex-copper sacked for being a sexual pervert, a low-rent David Carrick.
So, on the occasion, high five to the lovers of dags. It's also why I hate my wife using Facebook Marketplace. Like a magnet for 'em.
Stick Legs said:
I'm going to go against the grain here.
A mate of mine runs a garage, he deals with the travelling community and has done for over 20 years. My observations being around them are:
Negatives:
-They do act a bit entitled and you need to be quite sharp to sense when they are winding you up & being serious as despite all acting like hard nuts they are rather touchy and thin skinned, assume the worse, and allow them to laugh at you being wound up as the reverse is not palatable.
-The whole thing of never ever counting cash in front of them is real, but if they rip you off they'll only do it once.
-They have a habit of going everywhere mob handed, which is intimidating, but you soon realise that's just how they are.
-Never ever, EVER stare too hard or make a wise crack about their women, no matter how ridiculously they are dressed or behaving.
-Their kids are all mad. However once you know them a simple 'Billy, go & see your dad' nips it in the bud.
-If you are the sort of person who makes up for a lack of brain by backing it up with brawn steer clear.
Positives:
-Once they realise that you are not prejudiced they treat you very well.
-The power of word of mouth in that community is immense. If one has a good experience buying or selling with you they tell all their mates and you will never want for work.
-The whole thing of never ever counting cash in front of them is real, if you trust them they never ever short change you.
-Compared to normal people they actually have very realistic expectations of second hand gear and if it breaks are quite reasonable. I'd rather sell a second hand car to a Traveller than to a normal person in this regard.
-They aren't tight and will pay good money for good stuff.
-If you are the sort of person who makes up for a lack of brawn by using your brain then you'll be fine.
Meet them, be friendly, offer them a drink. Do a deal.
Be open and treat them like normal people, chances are you haven't got what they'd risk stealing.
Get a CCTV camera from Amazon. Once they leave write down all the vehicle reg numbers etc. If they do steal from you at least you have some sort of evidence to go to the Police with, but in my experience and friendly attitude backed up with a CCTV camera will mean they won't steal from you.
A chippy attitude, keeping everything around you under lock and key, acting like the crown jewels are in that shed and no they can't look in there, counting money and not budging on price means that they'd nick everything including your yard broom on principle.
Go through that check list, why even bother!A mate of mine runs a garage, he deals with the travelling community and has done for over 20 years. My observations being around them are:
Negatives:
-They do act a bit entitled and you need to be quite sharp to sense when they are winding you up & being serious as despite all acting like hard nuts they are rather touchy and thin skinned, assume the worse, and allow them to laugh at you being wound up as the reverse is not palatable.
-The whole thing of never ever counting cash in front of them is real, but if they rip you off they'll only do it once.
-They have a habit of going everywhere mob handed, which is intimidating, but you soon realise that's just how they are.
-Never ever, EVER stare too hard or make a wise crack about their women, no matter how ridiculously they are dressed or behaving.
-Their kids are all mad. However once you know them a simple 'Billy, go & see your dad' nips it in the bud.
-If you are the sort of person who makes up for a lack of brain by backing it up with brawn steer clear.
Positives:
-Once they realise that you are not prejudiced they treat you very well.
-The power of word of mouth in that community is immense. If one has a good experience buying or selling with you they tell all their mates and you will never want for work.
-The whole thing of never ever counting cash in front of them is real, if you trust them they never ever short change you.
-Compared to normal people they actually have very realistic expectations of second hand gear and if it breaks are quite reasonable. I'd rather sell a second hand car to a Traveller than to a normal person in this regard.
-They aren't tight and will pay good money for good stuff.
-If you are the sort of person who makes up for a lack of brawn by using your brain then you'll be fine.
Meet them, be friendly, offer them a drink. Do a deal.
Be open and treat them like normal people, chances are you haven't got what they'd risk stealing.
Get a CCTV camera from Amazon. Once they leave write down all the vehicle reg numbers etc. If they do steal from you at least you have some sort of evidence to go to the Police with, but in my experience and friendly attitude backed up with a CCTV camera will mean they won't steal from you.
A chippy attitude, keeping everything around you under lock and key, acting like the crown jewels are in that shed and no they can't look in there, counting money and not budging on price means that they'd nick everything including your yard broom on principle.
daqinggregg said:
Stick Legs said:
I'm going to go against the grain here.
A mate of mine runs a garage, he deals with the travelling community and has done for over 20 years. My observations being around them are:
Negatives:
-They do act a bit entitled and you need to be quite sharp to sense when they are winding you up & being serious as despite all acting like hard nuts they are rather touchy and thin skinned, assume the worse, and allow them to laugh at you being wound up as the reverse is not palatable.
-The whole thing of never ever counting cash in front of them is real, but if they rip you off they'll only do it once.
-They have a habit of going everywhere mob handed, which is intimidating, but you soon realise that's just how they are.
-Never ever, EVER stare too hard or make a wise crack about their women, no matter how ridiculously they are dressed or behaving.
-Their kids are all mad. However once you know them a simple 'Billy, go & see your dad' nips it in the bud.
-If you are the sort of person who makes up for a lack of brain by backing it up with brawn steer clear.
Positives:
-Once they realise that you are not prejudiced they treat you very well.
-The power of word of mouth in that community is immense. If one has a good experience buying or selling with you they tell all their mates and you will never want for work.
-The whole thing of never ever counting cash in front of them is real, if you trust them they never ever short change you.
-Compared to normal people they actually have very realistic expectations of second hand gear and if it breaks are quite reasonable. I'd rather sell a second hand car to a Traveller than to a normal person in this regard.
-They aren't tight and will pay good money for good stuff.
-If you are the sort of person who makes up for a lack of brawn by using your brain then you'll be fine.
Meet them, be friendly, offer them a drink. Do a deal.
Be open and treat them like normal people, chances are you haven't got what they'd risk stealing.
Get a CCTV camera from Amazon. Once they leave write down all the vehicle reg numbers etc. If they do steal from you at least you have some sort of evidence to go to the Police with, but in my experience and friendly attitude backed up with a CCTV camera will mean they won't steal from you.
A chippy attitude, keeping everything around you under lock and key, acting like the crown jewels are in that shed and no they can't look in there, counting money and not budging on price means that they'd nick everything including your yard broom on principle.
Go through that check list, why even bother!A mate of mine runs a garage, he deals with the travelling community and has done for over 20 years. My observations being around them are:
Negatives:
-They do act a bit entitled and you need to be quite sharp to sense when they are winding you up & being serious as despite all acting like hard nuts they are rather touchy and thin skinned, assume the worse, and allow them to laugh at you being wound up as the reverse is not palatable.
-The whole thing of never ever counting cash in front of them is real, but if they rip you off they'll only do it once.
-They have a habit of going everywhere mob handed, which is intimidating, but you soon realise that's just how they are.
-Never ever, EVER stare too hard or make a wise crack about their women, no matter how ridiculously they are dressed or behaving.
-Their kids are all mad. However once you know them a simple 'Billy, go & see your dad' nips it in the bud.
-If you are the sort of person who makes up for a lack of brain by backing it up with brawn steer clear.
Positives:
-Once they realise that you are not prejudiced they treat you very well.
-The power of word of mouth in that community is immense. If one has a good experience buying or selling with you they tell all their mates and you will never want for work.
-The whole thing of never ever counting cash in front of them is real, if you trust them they never ever short change you.
-Compared to normal people they actually have very realistic expectations of second hand gear and if it breaks are quite reasonable. I'd rather sell a second hand car to a Traveller than to a normal person in this regard.
-They aren't tight and will pay good money for good stuff.
-If you are the sort of person who makes up for a lack of brawn by using your brain then you'll be fine.
Meet them, be friendly, offer them a drink. Do a deal.
Be open and treat them like normal people, chances are you haven't got what they'd risk stealing.
Get a CCTV camera from Amazon. Once they leave write down all the vehicle reg numbers etc. If they do steal from you at least you have some sort of evidence to go to the Police with, but in my experience and friendly attitude backed up with a CCTV camera will mean they won't steal from you.
A chippy attitude, keeping everything around you under lock and key, acting like the crown jewels are in that shed and no they can't look in there, counting money and not budging on price means that they'd nick everything including your yard broom on principle.
I’ve dealt with plenty of travellers and always been ok. You need to be awake because culturally they want a deal and maybe see the world differently to a lot of customers but if you are straight with them they often tend to be the same in return.
Same goes for a number of ethnic groups BTW except you probably aren’t allowed to start that thread. No blacks, no Irish is just no Irish nowadays I guess .
In fact, the straight dealing thing tends to work for most people
Unless of course you are an idiot that prejudges everything as a certainty in which case……
Douglas Quaid said:
He’ll definitely threaten you with violence and demand money from you after any deal is done. You are much better avoiding that stress.
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