The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 20]

[TownIdiot]

SWoll said:

Going to be tough with multiple international tournaments going on makes transfers and preparation very difficult.

Yes.

Same for all the top sides so our only disadvantage is the change of coaching staff.

Hopefully a new manager bounce in August.

[Drabbesttunic]

TownIdiot said:

SWoll said:

Going to be tough with multiple international tournaments going on makes transfers and preparation very difficult.

Yes.

Same for all the top sides so our only disadvantage is the change of coaching staff.

Hopefully a new manager bounce in August.

One that lasts a whole season please

[SWoll]

TownIdiot said:

SWoll said:

Going to be tough with multiple international tournaments going on makes transfers and preparation very difficult.

Yes.

Same for all the top sides so our only disadvantage is the change of coaching staff.

Hopefully a new manager bounce in August.

The challenge will depend on how many players a team wants to bring in, how many players are on international duty, how much they're likely to play and how far their teams are likely to go in the tournaments.

Not the same for all top sides, especially with regards to Copa America.

[TownIdiot]

SWoll said:

The challenge will depend on how many players a team wants to bring in, how many players are on international duty, how much they're likely to play and how far their teams are likely to go in the tournaments.

Not the same for all top sides, especially with regards to Copa America.

Is their a great disparity as to which teams have players on international duty?
Would have thought city and arsenal had loads, but wouldn't know for sure

[Adam.]

Chat GPT says (though ederson now out)

Argentina:
Emiliano Martínez (Aston Villa)
Enzo Fernández (Chelsea)
Julián Álvarez (Manchester City)

Brazil:
Alisson Becker (Liverpool)
Ederson (Manchester City)

Colombia:
Luis Díaz (Liverpool)
Davinson Sánchez (Tottenham Hotspur)

Ecuador:
Moisés Caicedo (Chelsea)
Pervis Estupiñán (Brighton & Hove Albion)

Mexico:
Edson Álvarez (West Ham United)
Raúl Jiménez (Fulham)

Uruguay:
Darwin Núñez (Liverpool)
Rodrigo Bentancur (Tottenham Hotspur)

Paraguay:
Miguel Almirón (Newcastle United)

[Adam.]

Euros:

England
Goalkeepers: Jordan Pickford (Everton), Aaron Ramsdale (Arsenal), Nick Pope (Newcastle United).
Defenders: Kyle Walker (Manchester City), John Stones (Manchester City), Harry Maguire (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), Kieran Trippier (Newcastle United), Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Joe Gomez (Liverpool).
Midfielders: Declan Rice (Arsenal), Jude Bellingham (Real Madrid), Jordan Henderson (Ajax), James Maddison (Tottenham Hotspur), Conor Gallagher (Chelsea).
Forwards: Harry Kane (Bayern Munich), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Marcus Rashford (Manchester United), Jack Grealish (Manchester City), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa)

Other nations

Belgium: Kevin De Bruyne (Manchester City), Romelu Lukaku (Chelsea).
France: William Saliba (Arsenal), Raphael Varane (Manchester United), Ibrahima Konaté (Liverpool).
Portugal: Bruno Fernandes (Manchester United), João Palhinha (Fulham), Rúben Dias (Manchester City).
Spain: Rodri (Manchester City), David Raya (Arsenal).
Netherlands: Virgil van Dijk (Liverpool), Nathan Aké (Manchester City).
Denmark: Christian Eriksen (Manchester United), Pierre-Emile Højbjerg (Tottenham Hotspur).

[Adam.]

Its a bit out of date eg Luke Shaw - but looks like we have a lot of ours going to them

[SydneyBridge]

Team of the season from Garth Crooks on BBC, seems pretty fair

Honourable mentions for Klopp and Salah

[Adam.]

Not sure I would ever pick Pickford over Ederson, Allison. Vicario has been excellent too

Rodri would edge it over RIce

[SWoll]

Adam. said:

Chat GPT says (though ederson now out)

Argentina:
Emiliano Martínez (Aston Villa)
Enzo Fernández (Chelsea)
Julián Álvarez (Manchester City)

Brazil:
Alisson Becker (Liverpool)
Ederson (Manchester City)

Colombia:
Luis Díaz (Liverpool)
Davinson Sánchez (Tottenham Hotspur)

Ecuador:
Moisés Caicedo (Chelsea)
Pervis Estupiñán (Brighton & Hove Albion)

Mexico:
Edson Álvarez (West Ham United)
Raúl Jiménez (Fulham)

Uruguay:
Darwin Núñez (Liverpool)
Rodrigo Bentancur (Tottenham Hotspur)

Paraguay:
Miguel Almirón (Newcastle United)

Missing Mac Allister for Argentina + Garbriel & Martinelli (ARS), Paqueta (WHU), Gumareas (NU) and Richarlison (TH) for Brazil.

Adam. said:

Euros:

England
Goalkeepers: Jordan Pickford (Everton), Aaron Ramsdale (Arsenal), Nick Pope (Newcastle United).
Defenders: Kyle Walker (Manchester City), John Stones (Manchester City), Harry Maguire (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), Kieran Trippier (Newcastle United), Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Joe Gomez (Liverpool).
Midfielders: Declan Rice (Arsenal), Jude Bellingham (Real Madrid), Jordan Henderson (Ajax), James Maddison (Tottenham Hotspur), Conor Gallagher (Chelsea).
Forwards: Harry Kane (Bayern Munich), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Marcus Rashford (Manchester United), Jack Grealish (Manchester City), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa)

Other nations

Belgium: Kevin De Bruyne (Manchester City), Romelu Lukaku (Chelsea).
France: William Saliba (Arsenal), Raphael Varane (Manchester United), Ibrahima Konaté (Liverpool).
Portugal: Bruno Fernandes (Manchester United), João Palhinha (Fulham), Rúben Dias (Manchester City).
Spain: Rodri (Manchester City), David Raya (Arsenal).
Netherlands: Virgil van Dijk (Liverpool), Nathan Aké (Manchester City).
Denmark: Christian Eriksen (Manchester United), Pierre-Emile Højbjerg (Tottenham Hotspur).

Gakpo and Grav are also in the Netherlands squad. Szobo is Hungary captain.

Edited by SWoll on Monday 20th May 15:58

[TownIdiot]

All Good news for Manchester Utd with midweeks off and more time to work on ETH's system.

[ferrisbueller]

SWoll said:

Adam. said:

Chat GPT says (though ederson now out)

Argentina:
Emiliano Martínez (Aston Villa)
Enzo Fernández (Chelsea)
Julián Álvarez (Manchester City)

Brazil:
Alisson Becker (Liverpool)
Ederson (Manchester City)

Colombia:
Luis Díaz (Liverpool)
Davinson Sánchez (Tottenham Hotspur)

Ecuador:
Moisés Caicedo (Chelsea)
Pervis Estupiñán (Brighton & Hove Albion)

Mexico:
Edson Álvarez (West Ham United)
Raúl Jiménez (Fulham)

Uruguay:
Darwin Núñez (Liverpool)
Rodrigo Bentancur (Tottenham Hotspur)

Paraguay:
Miguel Almirón (Newcastle United)

Missing Mac Allister for Argentina + Garbriel & Martinelli (ARS), Paqueta (WHU), Gumareas (NU) and Richarlison (TH) for Brazil.

Adam. said:

Euros:

England
Goalkeepers: Jordan Pickford (Everton), Aaron Ramsdale (Arsenal), Nick Pope (Newcastle United).
Defenders: Kyle Walker (Manchester City), John Stones (Manchester City), Harry Maguire (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), Kieran Trippier (Newcastle United), Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Joe Gomez (Liverpool).
Midfielders: Declan Rice (Arsenal), Jude Bellingham (Real Madrid), Jordan Henderson (Ajax), James Maddison (Tottenham Hotspur), Conor Gallagher (Chelsea).
Forwards: Harry Kane (Bayern Munich), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Marcus Rashford (Manchester United), Jack Grealish (Manchester City), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa)

Other nations

Belgium: Kevin De Bruyne (Manchester City), Romelu Lukaku (Chelsea).
France: William Saliba (Arsenal), Raphael Varane (Manchester United), Ibrahima Konaté (Liverpool).
Portugal: Bruno Fernandes (Manchester United), João Palhinha (Fulham), Rúben Dias (Manchester City).
Spain: Rodri (Manchester City), David Raya (Arsenal).
Netherlands: Virgil van Dijk (Liverpool), Nathan Aké (Manchester City).
Denmark: Christian Eriksen (Manchester United), Pierre-Emile Højbjerg (Tottenham Hotspur).

Gakpo and Grav are also in the Netherlands squad. Szobo is Hungary captain.

Edited by SWoll on Monday 20th May 15:58

https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/may/10/brazil-ditch-casemiro-richarlison-and-gabriel-jesus-for-copa-america

[ferrisbueller]

CountyAFC said:

I'm not sure he'd do the national team. He's so hands on and invested in his players, I don't think working with a team once every few months would work with his methods.

Agree. I think he'd have to make a number of changes to his approach. I'm also not sure Klopp's preferred way of playing would be compatible with tournament football scheduling.

[ferrisbueller]

Having started watching a Klopp video from Sky I left my YouTube to do it's own thing. The volume of material released over the last week or two is remarkable.

You can't really briefly sum up the last 9 years but there's no doubt it's sad to seem him go. Albeit better to go this way than have a slump and quit or be fired under worse circumstances. We've almost become accustomed to having a belief that almost any game was winnable and we could be competitive and we've enjoyed a lot of success (with a load more near misses to boot). He's certainly left a legacy and will be a loss to the club, the City and to the game in general.

I wish FSG had been able to put more money in to the team so we were more equipped to compete every season of his tenure; some of the transfer activities and squad management was poor enough to leave us compromising entire seasons waiting for the right players - some of whom never came. It's a real shame the title win came during COVID so we missed a big party and it's a bigger shame that the whole period coincided with City's dominance.

I find it odd that expressing regret about being in the shadow of City, and the context behind that, is seen as being "salty". City are apparently playing to their own rules. A league within a league. I admire Pep and what he has achieved. I appreciate the way they play and their continuous high standards and drive. Expressing doubts about the whole thing as a consequence of 115 FFP charges is just that. There's a definite shadow cast over the outcomes.

I know absolutely nothing about Slot so have no idea what to expect. LFC has just announced he's coming

The transfer activity this summer will be interesting, not least the Salah situation.

[type-r]

It's official.

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/arne-slot-become-...

[Chris Stott]

ferrisbueller said:

Having started watching a Klopp video from Sky I left my YouTube to do it's own thing. The volume of material released over the last week or two is remarkable.

You can't really briefly sum up the last 9 years but there's no doubt it's sad to seem him go. Albeit better to go this way than have a slump and quit or be fired under worse circumstances. We've almost become accustomed to having a belief that almost any game was winnable and we could be competitive and we've enjoyed a lot of success (with a load more near misses to boot). He's certainly left a legacy and will be a loss to the club, the City and to the game in general.

I wish FSG had been able to put more money in to the team so we were more equipped to compete every season of his tenure; some of the transfer activities and squad management was poor enough to leave us compromising entire seasons waiting for the right players - some of whom never came. It's a real shame the title win came during COVID so we missed a big party and it's a bigger shame that the whole period coincided with City's dominance.

I find it odd that expressing regret about being in the shadow of City, and the context behind that, is seen as being "salty". City are apparently playing to their own rules. A league within a league. I admire Pep and what he has achieved. I appreciate the way they play and their continuous high standards and drive. Expressing doubts about the whole thing as a consequence of 115 FFP charges is just that. There's a definite shadow cast over the outcomes.

I know absolutely nothing about Slot so have no idea what to expect. LFC has just announced he's coming

The transfer activity this summer will be interesting, not least the Salah situation.

Great post Ferris… pretty much mirrors my thoughts and feelings.

[TownIdiot]

type-r said:

It's official.

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/arne-slot-become-...

Do we know if he's bringing a back room team with him?

[CountyAFC]

TownIdiot said:

Do we know if he's bringing a back room team with him?

[TownIdiot]

CountyAFC said:

Thanks
I'd not seen that

Should be able to hit the ground running then.

[SWoll]

ferrisbueller said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/...

I knew Casimero and Jesus had been dropped, surprised about Richi though. National tournaments are usually when he's at his best.