Lewis Hamilton to Ferrari
Discussion
bobbo89 said:
You've not seen quali or know the results have you?
Spoiler, they've given their drivers a car that's not a donkey....
One quali session doesn't make a it a great car. They were lucky Perez, Russell and Leclerc struggled.Spoiler, they've given their drivers a car that's not a donkey....
They've scored a whopping 17 points this season and they're in no-mans land down in 6th in the constructors championship. The car is s
t.Mercedes are still a top team. They have great facilities, great people, great resources and technical ability. There is no other team, maybe red bull aside, that compares. Stay put is the only logical option. They've produced a dud car. It's always going to take time to catch up. The regulations have prolonged that time (unfortunately - cost cap works just the same as the engine freeze(s) did in terms of locking in advantage).
mw88 said:
One quali session doesn't make a it a great car. They were lucky Perez, Russell and Leclerc struggled.
They've scored a whopping 17 points this season and they're in no-mans land down in 6th in the constructors championship. The car is st.
Hmm, I was under the impression they'd brought some significant upgrades to Spain but apparently not and they just lucked out with temperatures at a track that really suits the car.... They've scored a whopping 17 points this season and they're in no-mans land down in 6th in the constructors championship. The car is s
t.bobbo89 said:
Hmm, I was under the impression they'd brought some significant upgrades to Spain but apparently not and they just lucked out with temperatures at a track that really suits the car....
How do upgrades in Spain (where the race is yet to take place) have relevance to the results so far this season? 
bobbo89 said:
mw88 said:
One quali session doesn't make a it a great car. They were lucky Perez, Russell and Leclerc struggled.
They've scored a whopping 17 points this season and they're in no-mans land down in 6th in the constructors championship. The car is st.
Hmm, I was under the impression they'd brought some significant upgrades to Spain but apparently not and they just lucked out with temperatures at a track that really suits the car.... They've scored a whopping 17 points this season and they're in no-mans land down in 6th in the constructors championship. The car is s
t.
Dingu said:
How do upgrades in Spain (where the race is yet to take place) have relevance to the results so far this season?
Well it was suggested that neither Norris or Piastri were 'setting the world on fire' and that they could be in contract termination territory. I then pointed out that it was the car by referring to yesterdays quali result, which although I was wrong about them not having brought upgrades, it still debunks the idea that the poor performance this year is down to Norris or Piastri... bobbo89 said:
mw88 said:
One quali session doesn't make a it a great car. They were lucky Perez, Russell and Leclerc struggled.
They've scored a whopping 17 points this season and they're in no-mans land down in 6th in the constructors championship. The car is st.
Hmm, I was under the impression they'd brought some significant upgrades to Spain but apparently not and they just lucked out with temperatures at a track that really suits the car.... They've scored a whopping 17 points this season and they're in no-mans land down in 6th in the constructors championship. The car is s
t.The mercedes and red bull are 'slow qualifier' vs their race pace anyway. the mclaren will go backwards quite quickly today (if its dry).
bobbo89 said:
Dingu said:
How do upgrades in Spain (where the race is yet to take place) have relevance to the results so far this season?
Well it was suggested that neither Norris or Piastri were 'setting the world on fire' and that they could be in contract termination territory. I then pointed out that it was the car by referring to yesterdays quali result, which although I was wrong about them not having brought upgrades, it still debunks the idea that the poor performance this year is down to Norris or Piastri... On the filosofe, today must have convinced Ferrari that even Peter Windsor’s £80m is too little … £100m more like it.
Sainz is so boring and lacks all juice to make anything happen and Leclerc only excels where he can go 11/10 by taking more risk.
Ferrari needs a top tier driver with some excitement
Sainz is so boring and lacks all juice to make anything happen and Leclerc only excels where he can go 11/10 by taking more risk.
Ferrari needs a top tier driver with some excitement
500TORQUES said:
Sandpit Steve said:
I think today might have made up his mind. He’ll be staying with Mercedes!
It was never on his mind to move. Talk about trying to sell clickbait bks stories. Its too late in the day to lose the built up goodwill and association with mercedes. Ferrari dont have the team to really succeed.
Its possible Lewis could be at mercedes past Russell's time. I think its more likely Russell would make a big money move at some stage.
Que some made up story about big money russell move...
I think a lot of stories are puked up by AI now based on pure speculation and scouring the internet for forum posts.
Rubbish in rubbish out as they said in the early days of computers. Nobody worries about that now. Any rubbish will do to pass the time lol.
Its possible Lewis could be at mercedes past Russell's time. I think its more likely Russell would make a big money move at some stage.
Que some made up story about big money russell move...
I think a lot of stories are puked up by AI now based on pure speculation and scouring the internet for forum posts.
Rubbish in rubbish out as they said in the early days of computers. Nobody worries about that now. Any rubbish will do to pass the time lol.
Fundoreen said:
Its too late in the day to lose the built up goodwill and association with mercedes. Ferrari dont have the team to really succeed.
Its possible Lewis could be at mercedes past Russell's time. I think its more likely Russell would make a big money move at some stage.
Que some made up story about big money russell move...
I think a lot of stories are puked up by AI now based on pure speculation and scouring the internet for forum posts.
Rubbish in rubbish out as they said in the early days of computers. Nobody worries about that now. Any rubbish will do to pass the time lol.
I tend to agree. The move for Lewis never made any sense, least of which after this weekend which shows Merc have the factory and strategy teams to make it work and clearly Ferrari don’t. Its possible Lewis could be at mercedes past Russell's time. I think its more likely Russell would make a big money move at some stage.
Que some made up story about big money russell move...
I think a lot of stories are puked up by AI now based on pure speculation and scouring the internet for forum posts.
Rubbish in rubbish out as they said in the early days of computers. Nobody worries about that now. Any rubbish will do to pass the time lol.
I only see him there for 1 season well after his prime to see his career out kind of like Alonso is now and Vettel was (ironically both at AM).
Presuming Ed said:
I'm not sure Hamilton is an empire builder, more of an individual that expects a fast car rather then builds one.
That's the point though, can a driver (as Schumacher and Prost did) build a winning team around him, for example from a test driving point of view. That's greatness. Fangio won with 4 different teams. Loads of drivers have won championships with two. If Hamilton did make the move to the Red, and won, he'd go down as the greatest ever.
Suspect he's missed that chance, should have done it two years ago.
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