An epidemic of insanely slow drivers
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This popped up on my FB
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/No1Ai6KY5hX8c9iW/
So it's not just a UK issue
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/No1Ai6KY5hX8c9iW/
So it's not just a UK issue
bigothunter said:
Mammasaid said:
1st clip....
Great compilation with many alarming examples of poor driving. Unfortunately it's not relevant to this thread 
Who would you blame?
Mammasaid said:
bigothunter said:
Mammasaid said:
1st clip....
Great compilation with many alarming examples of poor driving. Unfortunately it's not relevant to this thread Who would you blame?
M4cruiser said:
theplayingmantis said:
It was obviously m4cruiser...ooh there's a slow sign on the road must mean the limit should really be 30 not 60 as indicated, rather than just for this very specific point of the road...a menace he is!
He also justifies middle lane driving on the variois threads on that...Not sure if he's serious or just a very clever troll!
You are completely wrong, I do not hog the middle lane.He also justifies middle lane driving on the variois threads on that...Not sure if he's serious or just a very clever troll!
But I can spell "various".
No, a slow sign doesn't mean the limit is 30, and I have never said that. If you think I have then please show me where!
A "SLOW" in a NSL does mean you shouldn't be doing 60 for that section.
My point is that accelerating hard at the NSL sign is a very old fashioned way to drive, and we really shouldn't be doing that these days.
If your company offered you an EV6 then no doubt you would say no, you want a Granada 2.8i.
I am not sure about accelerating hard (whatever that means) at a NSL being 'old-fashioned'. As always, drive to the conditions and be prepared to stop within the distance you can see to be clear should cover it.
Julian Scott said:
Do you know what 'patronising' and 'judgemental' mean? What kind of a post did you expect one a thread entitled "An epidemic of insanely slow drivers"?
Is your real name Karen? Did you spill your Venti-Mocha-Frappa-Latte on your Birkenstocks?
I'm pleased you found your own joke funny enough to use twice. Well done. Is your real name Karen? Did you spill your Venti-Mocha-Frappa-Latte on your Birkenstocks?
Travelled north from Essex area to the North East last night. Fairly quiet in places but amazing how often I caught up with cars doing 60ish just sat in the outside lane with nothing around. Their reactions to me approaching were a mixed bag of either moving over (being woken from their slumber!), moving over but then accelerating away, stay in outside but accelerate off into the distance then slow down again and repeat, move over but then pull out again once I'd passed. I don't remember ever encountering so many drivers like this. Did I not get a memo?
The dawdling was balanced out by an absolute flute in a white Peugeot on the 2 lane section of the M11. Usual evening traffic so lots of trucks on the inside doing sub 60, train of traffic in the outside lane doing 65-70. Pug weaving in and out, undertaking, flashing people etc despite there being a good solid train in front as far as the eye could see. The driving was so bizarre that I actually wondered if they had a passenger in labour or something. Due to many clumsy undertaking attempts being blocked by others I actually ended up in front of him despite first noticing him from several cars back. I have to admit, I'd rather have been behind him but he was too busy fighting with the car in front to notice the huge gap I'd left. No sign of emergency from his passenger who was reading their phone and looking like they'd rather be somewhere else. I always wonder when I see stuff like this if they always drive like this. And if so, how do they a) not end up in multiple accidents, b) not end up on the news for an escalated road rage incident c) not end up in court.
The dawdling was balanced out by an absolute flute in a white Peugeot on the 2 lane section of the M11. Usual evening traffic so lots of trucks on the inside doing sub 60, train of traffic in the outside lane doing 65-70. Pug weaving in and out, undertaking, flashing people etc despite there being a good solid train in front as far as the eye could see. The driving was so bizarre that I actually wondered if they had a passenger in labour or something. Due to many clumsy undertaking attempts being blocked by others I actually ended up in front of him despite first noticing him from several cars back. I have to admit, I'd rather have been behind him but he was too busy fighting with the car in front to notice the huge gap I'd left. No sign of emergency from his passenger who was reading their phone and looking like they'd rather be somewhere else. I always wonder when I see stuff like this if they always drive like this. And if so, how do they a) not end up in multiple accidents, b) not end up on the news for an escalated road rage incident c) not end up in court.
Gad-Westy said:
Travelled north from Essex area to the North East last night. Fairly quiet in places but amazing how often I caught up with cars doing 60ish just sat in the outside lane with nothing around. Their reactions to me approaching were a mixed bag of either moving over (being woken from their slumber!), moving over but then accelerating away, stay in outside but accelerate off into the distance then slow down again and repeat, move over but then pull out again once I'd passed. I don't remember ever encountering so many drivers like this. Did I not get a memo?
The dawdling was balanced out by an absolute flute in a white Peugeot on the 2 lane section of the M11. Usual evening traffic so lots of trucks on the inside doing sub 60, train of traffic in the outside lane doing 65-70. Pug weaving in and out, undertaking, flashing people etc despite there being a good solid train in front as far as the eye could see. The driving was so bizarre that I actually wondered if they had a passenger in labour or something. Due to many clumsy undertaking attempts being blocked by others I actually ended up in front of him despite first noticing him from several cars back. I have to admit, I'd rather have been behind him but he was too busy fighting with the car in front to notice the huge gap I'd left. No sign of emergency from his passenger who was reading their phone and looking like they'd rather be somewhere else. I always wonder when I see stuff like this if they always drive like this. And if so, how do they a) not end up in multiple accidents, b) not end up on the news for an escalated road rage incident c) not end up in court.
Yes perhaps the thread title needs amending to 'An epidemic of insane drivers'... Pretty much every long journey sees at least one example. Returning from Surrey at the weekend at one point we had the 'weaver' (in an Audi A3 unsurprisingly) zipping in and out of lanes to get ahead. When thwarted by three lanes of traffic they proceeded to accelerate up the hard shoulder showering everybody with debris. Also had the oblig. baby seat in the back. That was followed by a group of idiot bikers cutting through busy traffic at very high speed then slowing and doing stoppies/wheelies amongst traffic that was going at 60-70...The dawdling was balanced out by an absolute flute in a white Peugeot on the 2 lane section of the M11. Usual evening traffic so lots of trucks on the inside doing sub 60, train of traffic in the outside lane doing 65-70. Pug weaving in and out, undertaking, flashing people etc despite there being a good solid train in front as far as the eye could see. The driving was so bizarre that I actually wondered if they had a passenger in labour or something. Due to many clumsy undertaking attempts being blocked by others I actually ended up in front of him despite first noticing him from several cars back. I have to admit, I'd rather have been behind him but he was too busy fighting with the car in front to notice the huge gap I'd left. No sign of emergency from his passenger who was reading their phone and looking like they'd rather be somewhere else. I always wonder when I see stuff like this if they always drive like this. And if so, how do they a) not end up in multiple accidents, b) not end up on the news for an escalated road rage incident c) not end up in court.
Julian Scott said:
I've not read 70+ pages of this, but the topic certainly resonates.
My summation is, it is stupidity. And specifically, people that don't know what road signs mean.
I travel along a 3 mile road every day (Knutsford Road from Alderley, until it becomes Hall Lane in Mobberley, where I turn off, if you know the area), there and back at least once, sometimes twice, on the way to my gym.
It starts as a justifiable 30 limit as it is residential and near a school. It then becomes a questionable 30 limit (used to be 50), as it gets more rural but still with a couple of houses....it then becomes 'National Speed Limit' for about a mile and a half, before reverting again to a 30 as it hits the outer parts of the village.
At least half the drivers do c35-40mph on the entire 3 mile stretch, oblivious to the speed limit. Most of the rest stick at 30 for the whole duration, will wave furiously or flash lights if you overtake in the NSL section (only really one real overtaking spot).
Glad I'm not the only one that gets irritated by this, the road from Knutsford is 30, 60, 30, 60, 30 and lots will just do 35 the whole way so unless you can get around them in the 60s (not always possible due to traffic) you end up being held up by them massively in the 60s and have them pulling away from you in the 30s My summation is, it is stupidity. And specifically, people that don't know what road signs mean.
I travel along a 3 mile road every day (Knutsford Road from Alderley, until it becomes Hall Lane in Mobberley, where I turn off, if you know the area), there and back at least once, sometimes twice, on the way to my gym.
It starts as a justifiable 30 limit as it is residential and near a school. It then becomes a questionable 30 limit (used to be 50), as it gets more rural but still with a couple of houses....it then becomes 'National Speed Limit' for about a mile and a half, before reverting again to a 30 as it hits the outer parts of the village.
At least half the drivers do c35-40mph on the entire 3 mile stretch, oblivious to the speed limit. Most of the rest stick at 30 for the whole duration, will wave furiously or flash lights if you overtake in the NSL section (only really one real overtaking spot).
Julian Scott said:
They are IRL. I'll try to remember to photograph when I drive down tomorrow.
I know there was a google street image, but here was the NSL this morning:And in prophetic convenience, stuck behind the cars at just over half the speed limit:
And again 90 mins later on the way back:
M4cruiser said:
A "SLOW" in a NSL does mean you shouldn't be doing 60 for that section.
Does it?M4cruiser said:
My point is that accelerating hard at the NSL sign is a very old fashioned way to drive, and we really shouldn't be doing that these days.
1) Who has talked about "accelerating hard at the NSL sign"?2) Why shouldn't someone really do it 'these days'?
Magikarp said:
Julian Scott said:
Do you know what 'patronising' and 'judgemental' mean? What kind of a post did you expect one a thread entitled "An epidemic of insanely slow drivers"?
Is your real name Karen? Did you spill your Venti-Mocha-Frappa-Latte on your Birkenstocks?
I'm pleased you found your own joke funny enough to use twice. Well done. Is your real name Karen? Did you spill your Venti-Mocha-Frappa-Latte on your Birkenstocks?
AyBee said:
Julian Scott said:
I've not read 70+ pages of this, but the topic certainly resonates.
My summation is, it is stupidity. And specifically, people that don't know what road signs mean.
I travel along a 3 mile road every day (Knutsford Road from Alderley, until it becomes Hall Lane in Mobberley, where I turn off, if you know the area), there and back at least once, sometimes twice, on the way to my gym.
It starts as a justifiable 30 limit as it is residential and near a school. It then becomes a questionable 30 limit (used to be 50), as it gets more rural but still with a couple of houses....it then becomes 'National Speed Limit' for about a mile and a half, before reverting again to a 30 as it hits the outer parts of the village.
At least half the drivers do c35-40mph on the entire 3 mile stretch, oblivious to the speed limit. Most of the rest stick at 30 for the whole duration, will wave furiously or flash lights if you overtake in the NSL section (only really one real overtaking spot).
Glad I'm not the only one that gets irritated by this, the road from Knutsford is 30, 60, 30, 60, 30 and lots will just do 35 the whole way so unless you can get around them in the 60s (not always possible due to traffic) you end up being held up by them massively in the 60s and have them pulling away from you in the 30s My summation is, it is stupidity. And specifically, people that don't know what road signs mean.
I travel along a 3 mile road every day (Knutsford Road from Alderley, until it becomes Hall Lane in Mobberley, where I turn off, if you know the area), there and back at least once, sometimes twice, on the way to my gym.
It starts as a justifiable 30 limit as it is residential and near a school. It then becomes a questionable 30 limit (used to be 50), as it gets more rural but still with a couple of houses....it then becomes 'National Speed Limit' for about a mile and a half, before reverting again to a 30 as it hits the outer parts of the village.
At least half the drivers do c35-40mph on the entire 3 mile stretch, oblivious to the speed limit. Most of the rest stick at 30 for the whole duration, will wave furiously or flash lights if you overtake in the NSL section (only really one real overtaking spot).
Julian Scott said:
Julian Scott said:
They are IRL. I'll try to remember to photograph when I drive down tomorrow.
I know there was a google street image, but here was the NSL this morning:Hoofy said:
Julian Scott said:
Julian Scott said:
They are IRL. I'll try to remember to photograph when I drive down tomorrow.
I know there was a google street image, but here was the NSL this morning:
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