RE: New Jaguar F-Pace 90th Anniversary launched
Discussion
BikeSausage said:
QuattroDave said:
I deeply want an F-Pace SVR to add to my other V8 but that means selling my Jaguar XJ which is the most comfortable and relaxing car I've ever driven.
Just two things are stopping me pulling the trigger:
Will it be as comfortable as the Jag
With 110 mile a day commute will it cripple me financially or will it eek out 30mpg on a run (XJ does 45-47mpg on a run)
On the plus side the F-pace sounds better, is far more practical and is a lot smaller than the XJ - like it might actually fit into a parking space!
It's going to happen, but might be at end of current contract when my next commute is known!
I don’t have one of these but a very good friend of mine has the less powerful but still bonkers ‘S’ with the 3.0 turbo engine. Just two things are stopping me pulling the trigger:
Will it be as comfortable as the Jag
With 110 mile a day commute will it cripple me financially or will it eek out 30mpg on a run (XJ does 45-47mpg on a run)
On the plus side the F-pace sounds better, is far more practical and is a lot smaller than the XJ - like it might actually fit into a parking space!
It's going to happen, but might be at end of current contract when my next commute is known!
It has very hard suspension which I guess is to stop its tall body falling over around corners. It’s not comfortable when cruising.
Your XJ will always be more comfortable than one of these. It doesn’t have to fight as hard to stop the body rolling. Nor does it have a tall frontal area to fight the air friction. Which will affect the fuel consumption. My mate gets an overall average of 20mpg, 25 on a gentle run.
PhilkSVR said:
QuattroDave said:
I deeply want an F-Pace SVR to add to my other V8 but that means selling my Jaguar XJ which is the most comfortable and relaxing car I've ever driven.
Just two things are stopping me pulling the trigger:
Will it be as comfortable as the Jag
With 110 mile a day commute will it cripple me financially or will it eek out 30mpg on a run (XJ does 45-47mpg on a run)
On the plus side the F-pace sounds better, is far more practical and is a lot smaller than the XJ - like it might actually fit into a parking space!
It's going to happen, but might be at end of current contract when my next commute is known!
Comfort is not a problem for me at all. It is a great cruiser but also a fun nutter if you want that. If you are concerned about fuel efficiency then on the motorway I get around 25-27 ish and around town 18-19. The sound is epic in dynamic. These cars have space and comfort and grunt. Very happy with mine. Just two things are stopping me pulling the trigger:
Will it be as comfortable as the Jag
With 110 mile a day commute will it cripple me financially or will it eek out 30mpg on a run (XJ does 45-47mpg on a run)
On the plus side the F-pace sounds better, is far more practical and is a lot smaller than the XJ - like it might actually fit into a parking space!
It's going to happen, but might be at end of current contract when my next commute is known!
Despite the XJ's size it's actually not very useful at lugging stuff, paddleboards, bike and even holiday luggage don't fit in the boot as the seats don't fold so the practicailty boost is a win worth the mpg drop!
Glenn63 said:
BikeSausage said:
QuattroDave said:
I deeply want an F-Pace SVR to add to my other V8 but that means selling my Jaguar XJ which is the most comfortable and relaxing car I've ever driven.
Just two things are stopping me pulling the trigger:
Will it be as comfortable as the Jag
With 110 mile a day commute will it cripple me financially or will it eek out 30mpg on a run (XJ does 45-47mpg on a run)
On the plus side the F-pace sounds better, is far more practical and is a lot smaller than the XJ - like it might actually fit into a parking space!
It's going to happen, but might be at end of current contract when my next commute is known!
I don’t have one of these but a very good friend of mine has the less powerful but still bonkers ‘S’ with the 3.0 turbo engine. Just two things are stopping me pulling the trigger:
Will it be as comfortable as the Jag
With 110 mile a day commute will it cripple me financially or will it eek out 30mpg on a run (XJ does 45-47mpg on a run)
On the plus side the F-pace sounds better, is far more practical and is a lot smaller than the XJ - like it might actually fit into a parking space!
It's going to happen, but might be at end of current contract when my next commute is known!
It has very hard suspension which I guess is to stop its tall body falling over around corners. It’s not comfortable when cruising.
Your XJ will always be more comfortable than one of these. It doesn’t have to fight as hard to stop the body rolling. Nor does it have a tall frontal area to fight the air friction. Which will affect the fuel consumption. My mate gets an overall average of 20mpg, 25 on a gentle run.
Isn't the 3.0 also supercharged? That was on my shortlist too but listening to them side by side at local dealer the 3.0 got binned quite quickly
Is this the last chance to get Jaguar's legendary 5.0 Supercharged V8?
It must be given that the Range Rover / Land Rover is currently ditching it for the BMW 4.4 turbo V8.
I'd love to have the F-Pace, but funds won't allow. I've recently purchased a 2014 XF Sportwagon with the same V8 instead. The V8 is awesome, even if the MPG isn't.
It must be given that the Range Rover / Land Rover is currently ditching it for the BMW 4.4 turbo V8.
I'd love to have the F-Pace, but funds won't allow. I've recently purchased a 2014 XF Sportwagon with the same V8 instead. The V8 is awesome, even if the MPG isn't.
BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
This just goes to show what a mess Jaguar has become. Don't think they've launched a new car in something like 6 or 7 years. Bet heavily on diesel just as diesel headed south. Have now supposedly bet heavily on electric, just as that market is suffering. That said, given that we are promised a new car in 2025, there seems to be precious little noise about it - no design studies, prototype leaks, anything really. Hard to see them getting anything to market in the next 18 months.
I fear they're just going to disappear. JLR are making so much from the LR bit - what do they need Jaguar for ?
Actually, they've just announced they're carrying-in with ICE SUVs alongside the BEVs!I fear they're just going to disappear. JLR are making so much from the LR bit - what do they need Jaguar for ?
The wheels on the BEV bandwagon are slowly falling off.
But yes, one does have sympathy for JAAAG - bet they now rue the day they cancelled the not-at-all-like-a-Bentley XJ and its flexible architecture...
unpc said:
ballans said:
I never understood the the “Performance “ SUV market until I drove the SVR just over a year ago. Surprised myself just how much I liked it. Had I not decided to jump off the corporate ladder and take a year out I would have bought it.
Had better book myself in to get my brain removed so I can start looking for one.
Same for me, I thought they were pointless but the SVR is epic. I'll be driving something less desirable to the light fingered fraternity for a while now though. Had better book myself in to get my brain removed so I can start looking for one.
I drove a Macan S yesterday and while perfectly pleasant I would still choose an F Pace.
Sorry yours got taken. Fortunately for me I live in rural Somerset so crime not such an issue.
ChrisCh86 said:
Is this the last chance to get Jaguar's legendary 5.0 Supercharged V8?
It must be given that the Range Rover / Land Rover is currently ditching it for the BMW 4.4 turbo V8..
Quite possibly. Although the new engine shows the old stager has not perhaps moved with the game.It must be given that the Range Rover / Land Rover is currently ditching it for the BMW 4.4 turbo V8..
It's not like the supercharged V8 was ever accused of lacking power or anything, but the difference between the engines in ostensibly similar cars is jaw-dropping.
unpc said:
Lovely but unless they've overhauled their security I won't be having another since my SVR got lifted last month from my drive.
That's with both keys in a steel box in an aluminium lined drawer several yards from the front door.
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I understand that the latest security updates prevent this type of attack. Currently being rolled out to older vehicles too, not sure of the cutoff.That's with both keys in a steel box in an aluminium lined drawer several yards from the front door.
s!Julian Scott said:
QuattroDave said:
With 110 mile a day commute will it cripple me financially or will it eek out 30mpg on a run (XJ does 45-47mpg on a run)
I've twice seen 30, but long runs usually mid/late 20s....but I'm not gentle with the throttle.All I can say is, it's worth it ;-)
First thing first though I'm not allowed to buy myself a second V8 motor until my wife gets a newer car (currently an i3 rex that I love!) and she's eyed up a mini clubman jcw with the £306bhp B47 motor in it.
coded2112 said:
LotusMac22 said:
A simple car for simple (low IQ) people
My Mum always said if you have nothing good to say don't say anything at all!None of your posts offer anything positive (not even funny), perhaps you might say nothing in future for the good of all.
loudlashadjuster said:
Quite possibly. Although the new engine shows the old stager has not perhaps moved with the game.
It's not like the supercharged V8 was ever accused of lacking power or anything, but the difference between the engines in ostensibly similar cars is jaw-dropping.
A single car length at the 1/2 mile is pretty far from jaw-dropping? It's not like the supercharged V8 was ever accused of lacking power or anything, but the difference between the engines in ostensibly similar cars is jaw-dropping.
He even says that in the real world ithe difference is next to nothing, the new one got away a little faster because it has launch control which is a proper top trump bellends feature.
Superior aerodynamcs were likely to have been the difference at 100 MPH+ when the new car started to pull away rather than engine power and torque.
I'd give up that very marginal performance advantage over 100MPH for the more pleasant driving characteristics of a supercharged engine myself, I'm very sad they're going away even if the new one should be more efficient and have more headroom.
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Thursday 16th May 18:17
CG2020UK said:
coded2112 said:
LotusMac22 said:
A simple car for simple (low IQ) people
My Mum always said if you have nothing good to say don't say anything at all!None of your posts offer anything positive (not even funny), perhaps you might say nothing in future for the good of all.
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