RE: Awesome Chevy-engined Triumph Stag for sale
Discussion
Miggers said:
Wacky Racer said:
Not for me, I'm afraid,
A mis-mash of parts on a body that was fairly attractive in the early 70's, but nothing special now. The original car proved to be a bit of a disaster with an unreliable V8 lump, BL should have put their Rover (ex Buick) V8 engine in it in retrospect.
Also 220 bhp is on;y VXR Astra output, so nothing special.
Each to their own though, hopefully it will find a buyer prepared to part with 22k.
Nor me,I hate Stags,one of biggest loads of junk to ever come out of BL.A mis-mash of parts on a body that was fairly attractive in the early 70's, but nothing special now. The original car proved to be a bit of a disaster with an unreliable V8 lump, BL should have put their Rover (ex Buick) V8 engine in it in retrospect.
Also 220 bhp is on;y VXR Astra output, so nothing special.
Each to their own though, hopefully it will find a buyer prepared to part with 22k.
Hoik out that lovely 350 Chevy and put a stick or two of dynamite under the rest of it,blow it to bits.
A plonker I worked with nearly 30-odd years ago had a 1975 reg one,he tried to tell me it would be quicker,stop and handle better than my then ride,
which happened to be a Pug 405 Mi16,unfortunately I never caught him driving the horrid thing to show him what a 1990 Pug would do his nasty old Stag.
Edited by Miggers on Wednesday 15th May 17:53
kambites said:
If it looked standard it would be lovely, but despite being relatively small modifications, those wheels and the bonnet scoop make it look terrible.
Yeah agreed. The wheels are awful. If I were to buy, I’d be changing those out straight away. And the front splitter looks manky also. seefarr said:
kambites said:
They look at least two inches bigger than the originals to me, and that style of wheel was never offered anyway.
Probably on larger wheels to fit over the big brakes but I agree with everyone else that the current ones are naff. What about some 16inch Minilights?Edited by kambites on Wednesday 15th May 12:18
I reckon about 220 bhp in a Stag would be plenty so I quite like it. But as plenty have already said not the wheels or the bonnet, but it looks like the latter is required to clear the air filter.
A tweaked 4 litre Rover lump ought to give similar power without needing to modify the bonnet and would at least have been built by BL, or would it be possible to get one of those ITB kits for the Chevy engine that would sit lower?
But at least someone went to the time and trouble to build it how it suited them. And compared to some older car prices it isn't silly money while being one of not many convertibles with 4 seats!
A tweaked 4 litre Rover lump ought to give similar power without needing to modify the bonnet and would at least have been built by BL, or would it be possible to get one of those ITB kits for the Chevy engine that would sit lower?
But at least someone went to the time and trouble to build it how it suited them. And compared to some older car prices it isn't silly money while being one of not many convertibles with 4 seats!
Not a fan of the wheels, the bonnet scoop, the rear lights and the red color... and as some mentioned, a bit lower ten it is now would also be better for looks at least.
But I'm a fan of thise sort upgraded cars and a bigger V8 is mostly good, especialy if its a light one.
a while ago thee was a lovely Triumph TR250? with LS engine and all upgraded chassis and so on, that was a car which I could say, yes the want is great for that one :-)
But I'm a fan of thise sort upgraded cars and a bigger V8 is mostly good, especialy if its a light one.
a while ago thee was a lovely Triumph TR250? with LS engine and all upgraded chassis and so on, that was a car which I could say, yes the want is great for that one :-)
I'm quite happy to forgive the bonnet scoop, as I'm going to optimistically assume it is serving some sort of a function. The tail lights don't bother me in the slightest (not really sure what people are complaining about!), but those wheels just have to go - bloody awful! Apart from that...... Ooohhh yeah!!!! And to those complaining about the power? In this thing....... 225bhp and whatever torque it is pumping is MORE than enough in this car - I'd love to give this a blast, out in the country with the roof down!!
Oilchange said:
smilo996 said:
the dry patch under the engine is a good sign.
Look at that interior, bootiful, really bootiful. Otherwise ruined by Murican power and the silly bonnet scoop. Just put in a Rover V8 and be done with it.
The Rover V8 was American to begin with lolLook at that interior, bootiful, really bootiful. Otherwise ruined by Murican power and the silly bonnet scoop. Just put in a Rover V8 and be done with it.
Roger Irrelevant said:
And then I'd go looking for Tom Donaldson. I'd be hovering just down the road from his house, there. And he'd see us, but I'd duck down behind the trees, and he thinks he's safe, right? And he's just about to put the key in his front door, and I come up from behind the hedge, 'Hello, you b
d.' He panics, right? And he goes in the house, so I get the 30-millimetre canon and I take out the fish pond, coy carp in there couple of rounds each, right? And then I just tilt the helicopter over to one side and the machine-gun bullets is chewing up the drive, right? He comes out. 'Oh no! Not me Triumph Stag! I've just had it resprayed!' I cut it right in half, right? And then he goes, 'Ahhh!' He runs up on to the garage roof. I say, 'Right. This is for you, Tom.' He goes, 'No, no!' He's begging us, he's begging us man, 'No, please don't!' And then I fly off to Cornwall and I just smash in the sea in a big ball of flames.
d.' He panics, right? And he goes in the house, so I get the 30-millimetre canon and I take out the fish pond, coy carp in there couple of rounds each, right? And then I just tilt the helicopter over to one side and the machine-gun bullets is chewing up the drive, right? He comes out. 'Oh no! Not me Triumph Stag! I've just had it resprayed!' I cut it right in half, right? And then he goes, 'Ahhh!' He runs up on to the garage roof. I say, 'Right. This is for you, Tom.' He goes, 'No, no!' He's begging us, he's begging us man, 'No, please don't!' And then I fly off to Cornwall and I just smash in the sea in a big ball of flames.
Stags were odd creatures in that they existed in a class of their own , with no obvious rival . They looked good - and still do - and the exhaust note was delightful . Not a car to 'improve' like this one has been - keep as per original please. They certainly have a following - there were hundreds at Silverstone Classic a year or two ago.
Oh , and PH scribbler, the Daimler Dart didn't have a "big engine" at all . It was a V8 , true , but a British one of only 2.5 litres.
Oh , and PH scribbler, the Daimler Dart didn't have a "big engine" at all . It was a V8 , true , but a British one of only 2.5 litres.
Mr Tidy said:
I reckon about 220 bhp in a Stag would be plenty so I quite like it. But as plenty have already said not the wheels or the bonnet, but it looks like the latter is required to clear the air filter.
A tweaked 4 litre Rover lump ought to give similar power without needing to modify the bonnet and would at least have been built by BL, or would it be possible to get one of those ITB kits for the Chevy engine that would sit lower?
The rear end is the weak link on a Stag.....anything more than about 200-220 lbs-ft of torque and its not going to last long.A tweaked 4 litre Rover lump ought to give similar power without needing to modify the bonnet and would at least have been built by BL, or would it be possible to get one of those ITB kits for the Chevy engine that would sit lower?
Putting a small block in a Stag seems like an excellent way to just increase understeer and the amount of time spent fixing/changing rear axle's
I believe some people have done a BMW IRS axle swap conversion to be able to run more power.......
With the right cooling mods done, and fixing the known problems that BL couldn't be arsed to do on it, the Triumph V8 can be a lovely little V8 and suits the Stag perfectly.
This car has been barry'd up in typically bad taste, like so many Slags have over the years. Needs scrapping
That bonnet scoop is nothing! When I was (a lot) younger in the very early 90s, someone near me had a stag with one of these:
That was feeding the humongous supercharger sitting on top of a 5.7 Chevy Hemi-head. It also had a rear axle from something else, although i can't recall what, massively uprated suspension and brakes, and went like s**t off a shovel.
The supercharger scoop combination sat so high that I'm quite convince the driver had massive issues with visibility, but apparently not too bad to stop it being MOT'd every year.
That was feeding the humongous supercharger sitting on top of a 5.7 Chevy Hemi-head. It also had a rear axle from something else, although i can't recall what, massively uprated suspension and brakes, and went like s**t off a shovel.
The supercharger scoop combination sat so high that I'm quite convince the driver had massive issues with visibility, but apparently not too bad to stop it being MOT'd every year.
I had a Stag many years ago, same colour, Pimento red.
To me, the rear lights do seem correct. They had the coloured reflectors with a clear cover over the top, similar to the early Lexus.
Although I don't like the modifications, it can easily be put back to original. At least it's still on the road.
To me, the rear lights do seem correct. They had the coloured reflectors with a clear cover over the top, similar to the early Lexus.
Although I don't like the modifications, it can easily be put back to original. At least it's still on the road.
It's not British, I admit, but I currently own and enjoy a ten-year-old Teutonic 2-seater open sports car/GT with a 4.7 litre twin-turbo DI V8 that gives 435 bhp as standard and can be chipped for circa £200 to 509 bhp and >600 lb ft of torques. The only reason I haven't bothered to do so is that it's plenty fast enough already.
It's almost all aluminium so won't rust, unlike this Stag and it's got a folding metal roof so my laptop can't easily be stolen from it. Best of all, it cost <£20,000 as this particular model seems to be a well-kept secret. All of which means that, much as I'd like to buy British I wouldn't bother with the Stag.
It's almost all aluminium so won't rust, unlike this Stag and it's got a folding metal roof so my laptop can't easily be stolen from it. Best of all, it cost <£20,000 as this particular model seems to be a well-kept secret. All of which means that, much as I'd like to buy British I wouldn't bother with the Stag.
coppice said:
Stags were odd creatures in that they existed in a class of their own , with no obvious rival.
It did have an obvious rival - the Mercedes SL. Both built in the 1970's with v8 engines, both convertables commonly sold with hard tops, both aimed as much as the US export market as anywhere else. Things get a little one sided from there though. Yes the Stag was cheaper ($5,805 vs $7,469 according to the Internet) but the Merc' was better developed, better built, and better serviced.runnerbean 14 said:
It's not British, I admit, but I currently own and enjoy a ten-year-old Teutonic 2-seater open sports car/GT with a 4.7 litre twin-turbo DI V8 that gives 435 bhp as standard and can be chipped for circa £200 to 509 bhp and >600 lb ft of torques. The only reason I haven't bothered to do so is that it's plenty fast enough already.
It's almost all aluminium so won't rust, unlike this Stag and it's got a folding metal roof so my laptop can't easily be stolen from it. Best of all, it cost <£20,000 as this particular model seems to be a well-kept secret. All of which means that, much as I'd like to buy British I wouldn't bother with the Stag.
So you are telling us that you have a completely different car that you prefer.It's almost all aluminium so won't rust, unlike this Stag and it's got a folding metal roof so my laptop can't easily be stolen from it. Best of all, it cost <£20,000 as this particular model seems to be a well-kept secret. All of which means that, much as I'd like to buy British I wouldn't bother with the Stag.
Well good for you!
//j17 said:
coppice said:
Stags were odd creatures in that they existed in a class of their own , with no obvious rival.
It did have an obvious rival - the Mercedes SL. Both built in the 1970's with v8 engines, both convertables commonly sold with hard tops, both aimed as much as the US export market as anywhere else. Things get a little one sided from there though. Yes the Stag was cheaper ($5,805 vs $7,469 according to the Internet) but the Merc' was better developed, better built, and better serviced.The Stag was in a class of its own back then, as it was the first 'affordable' 4 seat convertible, loosely based on an existing saloon floorpan/chassis. No one else was doing that back then, and the Stag had been out of production for about 4/5 years before the Germans (and everyone else) jumped on the same bandwagon with the 3 Series vert in the 80's.
Triumph were over a decade ahead of everyone else.
Edited by aeropilot on Thursday 16th May 20:22
Like a stag. Almost bought one a few years back. Rebuilt original engine was reliable, plenty of grunt and sounded amazing. (You don't have to replace it!)
But I didn't buy it because although it has been fixed and resprayed just a few years early the rust was coming back!
I think you can still pick up a nice original car for less than £15k so this is quite premium for the engine swap. Would hope it to be absolutely pristine at that price too, but as others have said the mods are an acquired taste that devalues to my eyes
But I didn't buy it because although it has been fixed and resprayed just a few years early the rust was coming back!
I think you can still pick up a nice original car for less than £15k so this is quite premium for the engine swap. Would hope it to be absolutely pristine at that price too, but as others have said the mods are an acquired taste that devalues to my eyes
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff