Jaguar F-Pace Non Runner
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Richard-390a0 said:
Sorry Escy but I've got to pull you up on this one! No known issues!?, it still has the hollowed out DPF fitted I assume & potentially stolen engine! Have you sent the V5 in to be amended with the 'new' engine number on it...
Please feel free to 
It's not an issue it's a choice. Why keep harping on at someone. If you don't like it don't read it.
I don't post often, but you need a kick in the nuts with a steel toe cap.
Richard-390a0 said:
Sorry Escy but I've got to pull you up on this one! No known issues!?, it still has the hollowed out DPF fitted I assume & potentially stolen engine! Have you sent the V5 in to be amended with the 'new' engine number on it...
Is 390a0 secret code for Head?If so username checks out.
Stick Legs said:
Richard-390a0 said:
Sorry Escy but I've got to pull you up on this one! No known issues!?, it still has the hollowed out DPF fitted I assume & potentially stolen engine! Have you sent the V5 in to be amended with the 'new' engine number on it...
Is 390a0 secret code for Head?If so username checks out.
Diesels should all have the option to have the DPF gutted and EGR blanked, but jump up a VED band or two. I'd pay the extra for reliability and better economy. It would also put off a large minority of cheapskates so wouldn't have a huge impact.
Escy said:
Regarding my wife and the tears, don't look into it too much. She's a South American so can be a bit mental. 
She once cried because when I plated up an Indian takeaway for her I poured the sauce over her rice and apparently that was wrong. It's up to her if she want's to persist with it or get rid. She's going away this weekend and has the choice of the Jaguar or the BMW, if she chooses the BMW it's probably curtains for the Jag. I'm not influencing her in either direction. She's pretty easy going, it's broken down a few times and she's been happy to carry on driving it, I know lots of people wouldn't be. She's never given me a hard time over any of this.
Fair. She once cried because when I plated up an Indian takeaway for her I poured the sauce over her rice and apparently that was wrong. It's up to her if she want's to persist with it or get rid. She's going away this weekend and has the choice of the Jaguar or the BMW, if she chooses the BMW it's probably curtains for the Jag. I'm not influencing her in either direction. She's pretty easy going, it's broken down a few times and she's been happy to carry on driving it, I know lots of people wouldn't be. She's never given me a hard time over any of this. Escy said:
Regarding my wife and the tears, don't look into it too much. She's a South American so can be a bit mental. She once cried because when I plated up an Indian takeaway for her I poured the sauce over her rice and apparently that was wrong. It's up to her if she want's to persist with it or get rid. She's going away this weekend and has the choice of the Jaguar or the BMW, if she chooses the BMW it's probably curtains for the Jag. I'm not influencing her in either direction. She's pretty easy going, it's broken down a few times and she's been happy to carry on driving it, I know lots of people wouldn't be. She's never given me a hard time over any of this.
I'm with Mrs Escy on the curry. If you don't know how hot it's going to be you want to keep the curry and the rice separate at first so you can experiment and get the balance right. If you just chuck the sauce on top of the rice you've lost all your room to manoeuvre. She once cried because when I plated up an Indian takeaway for her I poured the sauce over her rice and apparently that was wrong. It's up to her if she want's to persist with it or get rid. She's going away this weekend and has the choice of the Jaguar or the BMW, if she chooses the BMW it's probably curtains for the Jag. I'm not influencing her in either direction. She's pretty easy going, it's broken down a few times and she's been happy to carry on driving it, I know lots of people wouldn't be. She's never given me a hard time over any of this. Otherwise, I'm really pleased the car lives once more. If someone had suggested a year ago that I was going to end up this invested in a random SUV I'd have laughed at them.
Escy said:
I had a proper look at it this evening. I connected both starters up to a spare battery. The old starter wouldn't spin freely, a clump with a hammer would get it going again so that starter was definitely faulty. In retrospect I shouldn't have fitted it back on and gone with the XE one as it's taken a beating trying to turn over a locked engine.
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So I've confirmed I have a good one and a bad one but the good one wasn't starting the engine either. I connected the good XE starter directly to a spare battery but left the plug for the solenoid connected. It would spin. I then bolted it back into the car and gave the solenoid 12v at the relay. There's 2 fuses and relays for the solenoid, one pushes the pinion out (5 amp), one makes it spin (30 amp). I was trying to spin it without pushing the pinion out so it wasn't trying to turn the engine over. It would spin but slowly started to die off a bit and eventually it wouldn't spin any more.
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To rule out the 12v supply I ran a jump lead from the battery in the boot straight to the starter motor. It didn't help. I was reading the multiple comments on here saying the ground. I'd initially ruled out the ground, when it was broken down and I was waiting for recovery, I had jump leads in the boot and ran one from the block to the chassis and it had done nothing. I attached the ground on the jump leads to the battery ground and the other end to the block near the starter motor. It turned over slowly. I got another jump lead and ran it from the block to the chassis and it started fine.
I took off the main ground strap and cleaned it up and it's all good now. So it was a combination of a faulty starter which has then caused the ground contact to be poor. Easy fix which cost me nothing.
Excellent result! Glad that larrylamb11's post turned out to be pretty much on the money.IMG_20240515_184608213_HDRSo I've confirmed I have a good one and a bad one but the good one wasn't starting the engine either. I connected the good XE starter directly to a spare battery but left the plug for the solenoid connected. It would spin. I then bolted it back into the car and gave the solenoid 12v at the relay. There's 2 fuses and relays for the solenoid, one pushes the pinion out (5 amp), one makes it spin (30 amp). I was trying to spin it without pushing the pinion out so it wasn't trying to turn the engine over. It would spin but slowly started to die off a bit and eventually it wouldn't spin any more.
IMG_20240515_191353800_HDRTo rule out the 12v supply I ran a jump lead from the battery in the boot straight to the starter motor. It didn't help. I was reading the multiple comments on here saying the ground. I'd initially ruled out the ground, when it was broken down and I was waiting for recovery, I had jump leads in the boot and ran one from the block to the chassis and it had done nothing. I attached the ground on the jump leads to the battery ground and the other end to the block near the starter motor. It turned over slowly. I got another jump lead and ran it from the block to the chassis and it started fine.
I took off the main ground strap and cleaned it up and it's all good now. So it was a combination of a faulty starter which has then caused the ground contact to be poor. Easy fix which cost me nothing.
I salute your skills and your perserverence; chapeau old chap.
Brother D said:
This thread is infinately more interesting and emotionally gut-wrenching than any series of Love Island.
Haven't been more interested in the next installment of a saga since LOST 20 years ago!
Good luck with the latest fix!
Hopefully this last season of Escy's True Man Adventure will stick with a decent ending, unlike the last season of Lost which was a veritable mountain of guano. Everything the producers and writers promised fans of the show would not happen, did happen. Basically they were making it up as they went along and had no credible or incredible explanation of what was going on.Haven't been more interested in the next installment of a saga since LOST 20 years ago!
Good luck with the latest fix!
alfabeat said:
Well done on sorting it.
I'm very much in the "keep it" camp.
But I have just put an 80k mile replacement engine of unknown history into my Disco 4, which shat itself, and run a 140k mile Alfa 156 GTA, and a 180k mile 1.25 Fiesta. Better the devil you know.
Snapped crank?I'm very much in the "keep it" camp.
But I have just put an 80k mile replacement engine of unknown history into my Disco 4, which shat itself, and run a 140k mile Alfa 156 GTA, and a 180k mile 1.25 Fiesta. Better the devil you know.
I have to say that I'd probably never buy something like this, but that sort of thing can happen to any car. Also, things have been in and out of the car like a fiddler's elbow - starters can be inconsistent with age (and heat, given their location), and this isn't a rare occurrence. I have replaced a starter and 2 alternators in a Transporter van within a year, you run the risk of it especially when it's been apart, some connections aren't amazing. It might be worth rebuilding the starter for peace of mind or grabbing a secondhand known working spare.
Wow, what a roller coaster.
I opened this out of boredom around a week ago, I didn't think I'd get more than half way through the first post about an f pace. How wrong I was
I've read all 108 pages over the last week and I'm amazed by your patience and determination.
I know the exact point I would have been done with it, and it's when your tool for removing the balance shift broke. That would have been the final straw. I'd have got it back together however I could and got rid asap.
Shame about the constant dpf wbac arguments.
When you said about the things going on with the engine I thought it sounded like Birmingham, I was right. I am unfortunate enough to work in the area and it's really bad.
So glad you've managed to get it sorted again. I'm going g to join all of the other viewers now dreading seeing an update on this thread.
I don't have an opinion of if you should keep or sell, I'd have cut my losses a long time ago but I don't have anywhere near your skill or patience.
Well done
I opened this out of boredom around a week ago, I didn't think I'd get more than half way through the first post about an f pace. How wrong I was
I've read all 108 pages over the last week and I'm amazed by your patience and determination.
I know the exact point I would have been done with it, and it's when your tool for removing the balance shift broke. That would have been the final straw. I'd have got it back together however I could and got rid asap.
Shame about the constant dpf wbac arguments.
When you said about the things going on with the engine I thought it sounded like Birmingham, I was right. I am unfortunate enough to work in the area and it's really bad.
So glad you've managed to get it sorted again. I'm going g to join all of the other viewers now dreading seeing an update on this thread.
I don't have an opinion of if you should keep or sell, I'd have cut my losses a long time ago but I don't have anywhere near your skill or patience.
Well done
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