What is this car?

[samoht]

RDMcG said:

samoht said:

Presumably still a development car rather than a customer one at this stage.

Whereabouts in Italy did you see it? Anywhere near, say, Nardo? (In the heel of the country)

Lecce

Interesting, only ~35km from Nardo then, wonder if they may have been doing some high speed testing or even some kind of naturally aspirated class record attempt.

[dvs_dave]

thegreenhell said:

SpudLink said:

dvs_dave said:

E63eeeeee... said:

Is it just me, or is that the ugliest windscreen wiper arrangement of all time?

I agree. Big clunky looking thing.

Not sure why low volume/exotic manufacturers seemingly make no effort to conceal the wipers. Looks so crap. Every time it’s clearly a half arsed afterthought. Volume manufacturers have no problem doing it so it’s not like it’s some major engineering challenge. Just lazy, poor design processes.

I doubt the windscreen wiper would be an afterthought for Gordon Murray. Designing wipers that work on a car doing > 200mph must have been a big part of the F1 development. Time and effort would have been put into making it work properly on the GMA developed cars.

Yep, it works really well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84p9oVFXTmE

Case in point!

[RDMcG]

There were two cars- I was not in Italy; my neighbour was travelling there and came across them. Wondered what they were and emailed me the pics.

[andrew]

speedking31 said:

Gordon Murray Automotive on the number plate is a bit of a clue.

"FAN" might be an even bigger one

[samoht]

RDMcG said:

There were two cars- I was not in Italy; my neighbour was travelling there and came across them. Wondered what they were and emailed me the pics.

More pics, even better.

The second car is a T.33 ( )

[Mont Blanc]

LotusMac22 said:

It is a McLaren F1 mate. Developed by Aryton Senna.

I just can't decide if this is a really poor attempt at a joke.

[Common Porpoise]

It's a big old flop for me!
Sooo much hype and endless youtube waffle for something that somehow manages to look more dated than its predecessor and makes a noise that isn't anywhere near as good as its V12 contemporaries, despite all of the ridiculously cool engineering.
There were two in the Governor's car park at Goodwood 2023 which i had assumed were finished cars... perhaps not.
We're going to have the same painfully drawn out process with the T33 it seems.

Edited by Common Porpoise on Monday 13th May 23:44

[Common Porpoise]

RDMcG said:

There were two cars- I was not in Italy; my neighbour was travelling there and came across them. Wondered what they were and emailed me the pics.

The T50 is "pre series" #2... Presumably pre-production but not onenof the XP cars

Second one is the T33 "mule" that was at Goodwood recently

Edited by Common Porpoise on Monday 13th May 23:48

[Mont Blanc]

Common Porpoise said:

It's a big old flop for me!
Sooo much hype and endless youtube waffle for something that somehow manages to look more dated than its predecessor and makes a noise that isn't anywhere near as good as its V12 contemporaries, despite all of the ridiculously cool engineering.
There were two in the Governor's car park at Goodwood 2023 which i had assumed were finished cars... perhaps not.
We're going to have the same painfully drawn out process with the T33 it seems.

I don't suppose it matters what we think, as all allocations were sold out within 48 hours of being debuted.

But I tend to agree. I think its looks are somewhat unfortunate, verging on awkward/ugly, and certainly it looks worse than the F1, which looked incredible at launch, and has aged extremely well. I get the whole 'form follows function' thing, but still...

I guess it is meant to be the purest drivers car you could build in 2024, with some incredible engineering, and nothing else matters.

[Mont Blanc]

LotusMac22 said:

Mont Blanc said:

I just can't decide if this is a really poor attempt at a joke.

Sorry I don’t understand the criticism. Was developed by him at Imola I believe.

You are just trolling now.

This car is very obviously not a McLaren F1.

[SpudLink]

dvs_dave said:

thegreenhell said:

SpudLink said:

dvs_dave said:

E63eeeeee... said:

Is it just me, or is that the ugliest windscreen wiper arrangement of all time?

I agree. Big clunky looking thing.

Not sure why low volume/exotic manufacturers seemingly make no effort to conceal the wipers. Looks so crap. Every time it’s clearly a half arsed afterthought. Volume manufacturers have no problem doing it so it’s not like it’s some major engineering challenge. Just lazy, poor design processes.

I doubt the windscreen wiper would be an afterthought for Gordon Murray. Designing wipers that work on a car doing > 200mph must have been a big part of the F1 development. Time and effort would have been put into making it work properly on the GMA developed cars.

Yep, it works really well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84p9oVFXTmE

Case in point!

Oh dear.

[VeeTenM]

https://www.youtube.com/@GordonMurrayAutomotive