what car 23k ish

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Trustmeimadoctor

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Wanting rid of our s213 e class for something different don't want to spend much extra.
I don't need anything as big really so any body style will do but comfortable would be nice, android auto fitted or easy to add.
Really looking at petrol powered as been struck with adblue failure before and want to avoid that.

Something rattle free ie well screwed together something the Merc was not in any way shape or form

I'd kinda thought of a stinger GT or maybe an arteon but really need to think of other ideas

So what do you think. If it could retain as much as possible in 12-24months that would be great!



Edited by Trustmeimadoctor on Friday 3rd May 10:26

911Spanker

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Friday 3rd May
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W204 C63 with a proper diff.

Trustmeimadoctor

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And less than 10 years old

911Spanker

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Trustmeimadoctor said:
And less than 10 years old
You have to bend your requirements if you want anything decent IMO.

Trustmeimadoctor

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Really you can't buy a car for less than 23k that's less than 10 years old that has android auto, petrol and doesn't rattle?

I mean the Merc was only about 26k 3 years ago granted it's diesel and rattles but hey ho wink

FamousPheasant

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When considering both the stinger GT and the arteon, I ended up in a 435i gran coupe. Arteon was the most practical but only 4 cylinder, the stinger massively well equipped, but let down by running costs in terms of servicing and efficiency.

That said anything of that type and age will depreciate. I would estimate 10-20% depreciation a year depending on the mileage you put on. Go older and fancier and you will be further down the depreciation curve but with a increased borkage potential.

Trustmeimadoctor

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Belle427 said:
Nice thought but I already have one smile

Trustmeimadoctor

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E17KRY said:
Nice ideas, but it doesn't have to be big as long as it can fit a couple of large cases in it.

Trustmeimadoctor

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FamousPheasant said:
When considering both the stinger GT and the arteon, I ended up in a 435i gran coupe. Arteon was the most practical but only 4 cylinder, the stinger massively well equipped, but let down by running costs in terms of servicing and efficiency.

That said anything of that type and age will depreciate. I would estimate 10-20% depreciation a year depending on the mileage you put on. Go older and fancier and you will be further down the depreciation curve but with a increased borkage potential.
The depreciation is a funny one as the mercs lost 30% in the 40 months or so and that's fine I mean there the was the point it had gone up about 15%

20% id like to avoid that's £8280 in 2 years that's a decent chunk


pissonheads

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I know its a bit of an echo but how about a MK7.5 Golf GTI - plenty 2018/19 cars about at that price with 30k miles.

Trustmeimadoctor

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the mrs keeps saying what about a golf and honestly it makes sense if a little predictable as you say

Monkeylegend

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Trustmeimadoctor said:
Really you can't buy a car for less than 23k that's less than 10 years old that has android auto, petrol and doesn't rattle?

I mean the Merc was only about 26k 3 years ago granted it's diesel and rattles but hey ho wink
I changed from three E Class diesels to a petrol 2015 528i BMW as I did not want the hassle of adblue and NOX sensors with the later Mercs.

The BMW is a lovely car, well put together, no rattles, very reliable, comfortable, drives well, mid 30's mpg that is mainly now short runs.

Apparently the G30 is even better and easily attainable for 23k or less with a good selection of petrol, hybrids and diesel to choose from.

Having been a Merc fan for 20 years or so I will never buy another one, the BMW is a better car all round for my purposes.

FamousPheasant

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Trustmeimadoctor said:
FamousPheasant said:
When considering both the stinger GT and the arteon, I ended up in a 435i gran coupe. Arteon was the most practical but only 4 cylinder, the stinger massively well equipped, but let down by running costs in terms of servicing and efficiency.

That said anything of that type and age will depreciate. I would estimate 10-20% depreciation a year depending on the mileage you put on. Go older and fancier and you will be further down the depreciation curve but with a increased borkage potential.
The depreciation is a funny one as the mercs lost 30% in the 40 months or so and that's fine I mean there the was the point it had gone up about 15%

20% id like to avoid that's £8280 in 2 years that's a decent chunk
40 months ago would be in the middle of covid, before prices spiked I guess? I paid 23K for my 4 series 30 months ago, added 20K miles and it's worth, maybe,16K as a private sale now.

I would expect a more normal depreciation curve from now on, particularly if selling back to the trade.

The other option is leasing. The deals seem to be coming back but you have to be more flexible on car. It's what I'm considering as I've found it a fairly cost effective way of motoring with predictable costs. You just have to be patient and jump on deals when they appear.

Trustmeimadoctor

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leasing is an option just need to make sure that monthlies work out less than the possible depreciation
and yes was end of first lockdown pre spike at one point id gained as as i say 15% ish and that was after about a year of use its not normalized but was offered 18k a month ago partex

Monkeylegend

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I paid just over £15k for my 5 series just over 3 years ago and Motorway valued it at £12k a few weeks ago so basically £1k a year depreciation and I still have an asset to sell when I wish too.

Beats leasing any day of the week.

Trustmeimadoctor

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Monkeylegend said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
Really you can't buy a car for less than 23k that's less than 10 years old that has android auto, petrol and doesn't rattle?

I mean the Merc was only about 26k 3 years ago granted it's diesel and rattles but hey ho wink
I changed from three E Class diesels to a petrol 2015 528i BMW as I did not want the hassle of adblue and NOX sensors with the later Mercs.

The BMW is a lovely car, well put together, no rattles, very reliable, comfortable, drives well, mid 30's mpg that is mainly now short runs.

Apparently the G30 is even better and easily attainable for 23k or less with a good selection of petrol, hybrids and diesel to choose from.

Having been a Merc fan for 20 years or so I will never buy another one, the BMW is a better car all round for my purposes.
yeah the adblue only went a few months ago and that was a 2k fix. honestly ever since ive had it, its been a rattly lump and every w/s213 ive tried has been i fixed alot of them early on but they have come back now, its also due gearbox service this year i think and likely 4 tyres then there are the possible electrical issues with the new ones

Monkeylegend

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Trustmeimadoctor said:
yeah the adblue only went a few months ago and that was a 2k fix. honestly ever since ive had it, its been a rattly lump and every w/s213 ive tried has been i fixed alot of them early on but they have come back now, its also due gearbox service this year i think and likely 4 tyres then there are the possible electrical issues with the new ones
I loved all my pre adblue E Classes, did big miles, ie 300k plus, in all of them with no issues and Mercs servicing and customer service back then was excellent.

Then it all changed around 2013/2014 and they seem to have lost the plot as far as reliability and customer service is concerned.

They also no longer appeal to me visually, but I am getting old and they obviously are after the younger buyers nowadays smile

A Mercedes is no longer special.

fflump

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E17KRY said:
Audi S5s do look decent value in this price/age point.

As you are willing to look at cars up to 10 yrs how about an M4?

Or a 2-seater like an F-type?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404238...