Do I need a compo face?

[smokey mow]

EddieSteadyGo said:

I would raise a MoneyClaim online and formally claim from them. They will then need to contact their insurers and they will have to start spending money to prepare a defence. You can proceed with the claim right up to the court date and it won't cost you anything other than your time and the initial fee to start the process.

You can’t use MCOL to make a claim for compensation for an accident or injury.

[EddieSteadyGo]

smokey mow said:

EddieSteadyGo said:

I would raise a MoneyClaim online and formally claim from them. They will then need to contact their insurers and they will have to start spending money to prepare a defence. You can proceed with the claim right up to the court date and it won't cost you anything other than your time and the initial fee to start the process.

You can’t use MCOL to make a claim for compensation for an accident or injury.

That's a good point. I'd not realised that. So the claim would need to be written taking this into account. However, I think you could still claim for loss of earrings, direct travel expenses, park fees. etc.

[BertBert]

Hondashark said:

Thankfully solicitors are of a different opinion to the bellends blaming us.
Our daughter was in a position of safety and while we were distracted someone put her in danger.
That is fully blameable and rightly deserving of compensation. The issue is proving it when you have no CCTV evidence.

Did you not move the books to make the space for the tray to be placed?

[Antony Moxey]

If the store are saying the staff member didn’t put the tray close to the child how did the child reach it? Two year old’s arms aren’t that long.

[Greendubber]

I can't see how you can go after the store for anything to be honest.

Accidents can happen, this may have been prevented if you and your wife paid a bit more attention when your knowingly boiling hot drinks arrived at the table.

[HTP99]

I won't pile in on the OP, just wanted to say, ref his concern about scarring, my grandson pulled a scolding hot cup of tea on himself when he was a toddler, the injuries were horrendous to see, fortunately at the age of 10, there is no scarring.

[donkmeister]

Bloody hell, as the father of an inquisitive 2 year old that's my nightmares taken care of for the next few years. I've never ventured into a Morrisons cafe as Mrs D tried a couple and found them staffed by surly DILLIGAFs (as you have unfortunately found extreme examples of), but I really appreciate establishments who understand and do things like placing trays well away from the little ones, and so on.

Apols that I have nothing to add re the legal/liability situation, just my sympathy to your daughter, you and your Mrs.

[Andeh1]

Sorry to hear it OP, sounds like an awful situation. All the best. Sometimes trying to accept and move on is is a better holistic outcome then fighting an entrenched position.

Edited by Andeh1 on Tuesday 30th April 21:20

[DP14]

Hondashark said:

Thankfully solicitors are of a different opinion to the bellends blaming us.

Or maybe they're just more tactful and diplomatic, probably quite useful qualities in a personal injury solicitor.

[Jamescrs]

Antony Moxey said:

If the store are saying the staff member didn’t put the tray close to the child how did the child reach it? Two year old’s arms aren’t that long.

I’d say a 2 year old in a high chair pulled up to a table in a cafe could make a decent effort of lurching forward from the high chair and lunging a decent distance across a typical supermarket cafe table, depending on the type of high chair of course.

[Heaveho]

OP, you come across as an absolute millennial sad act. You've had a kid. That kid is your responsibility. If it's too much for you to deal with, accept that. The fact it's been involved in an accident when you've been too distracted to pay attention to the potential possibilities, isn't an out for you to shift your responsibilities onto someone else. That person did not spill hot liquid onto your child, you failed to prevent your child from harming itself. I fking hate this type of blame culture bullst.

No time whatsoever for your argument, wish your child well and a full recovery.

[Fast and Spurious]

Heaveho said:

OP, you come across as an absolute millennial sad act. You've had a kid. That kid is your responsibility. If it's too much for you to deal with, accept that. The fact it's been involved in an accident when you've been too distracted to pay attention to the potential possibilities, isn't an out for you to shift your responsibilities onto someone else. That person did not spill hot liquid onto your child, you failed to prevent your child from harming itself. I fking hate this type of blame culture bullst.

No time whatsoever for your argument, wish your child well and a full recovery.

End of thread.

[vaud]

Hondashark said:

1 year old was in the high chair and 2 year old playing with his cars. I saw the lady coming with the tea so I picked a couple of books that were in front of me so she could put the tray down and handed them to the Mrs.

So when the woman arrived I was getting my 2 year old sat down and the Mrs putting the books away. The Mrs then shouted and I looked up just as my daughter was pulling one of the pots onto her lap as the tray had been put in the middle of the table, not directly infront of my daughter but then still within reach of a hooked finger of a 1 year old.

Children have rights to be safe and protected.

Parents have responsibilities.

Sorry but you failed in the latter. This is not on Morrisons for placing a tray in the middle of a table which would be a reasonable place to put a tray with two responsible parents present.

Hard as it may be to accept, I think this is on you both.

(Dad of two young-ish daughters)

[Dan_The_Man]

Heaveho said:

OP, you come across as an absolute millennial sad act. You've had a kid. That kid is your responsibility. If it's too much for you to deal with, accept that. The fact it's been involved in an accident when you've been too distracted to pay attention to the potential possibilities, isn't an out for you to shift your responsibilities onto someone else. That person did not spill hot liquid onto your child, you failed to prevent your child from harming itself. I fking hate this type of blame culture bullst.

No time whatsoever for your argument, wish your child well and a full recovery.

Have to say pretty much sums up my feelings too.

[Spitfire2]

Heaveho said:

OP, you come across as an absolute millennial sad act. You've had a kid. That kid is your responsibility. If it's too much for you to deal with, accept that. The fact it's been involved in an accident when you've been too distracted to pay attention to the potential possibilities, isn't an out for you to shift your responsibilities onto someone else. That person did not spill hot liquid onto your child, you failed to prevent your child from harming itself. I fking hate this type of blame culture bullst.

No time whatsoever for your argument, wish your child well and a full recovery.

Yep. Agree with this. Another bellend here.

I recall when mine was in his first year. When waiters came close I was watching them like a hawk (maybe a bit sad). One guy started to stand over the pram with a bowl of steaming soup. Asked quietly and firmly to step back and be more careful.

Not claiming perfection, but parents simply have to take responsibility and watch kids when such risks as hot water are approaching.

[Geekman]

So let me get this straight, you're expecting a minimum wage worker at one of the cheapest places you can possibly eat to come over to your table, assess the space between each person, and rather than placing the pot of hot liquid in the middle of the table as they normally would, make a rough estimate of how far your child can reach and ensure that the pot is placed outside of that area? And the reason you expect said worker to do that is because you, the parent, shouldn't be required to supervise your own child?

The fact that a solicitor who will always jump at the chance to take on a claim they think they might win doesn't seem keen should tell you everything you need to know.

This thread is definitely up there with some of the most ridiculous ones I've ever read on PH.

[E-bmw]

HTP99 said:

I won't pile in on the OP, just wanted to say, ref his concern about scarring, my grandson pulled a scolding hot cup of tea on himself when he was a toddler, the injuries were horrendous to see, fortunately at the age of 10, there is no scarring.

Just to provide balance to this post, I am 61 & at the age of 4 a kettle emptied part of its contents on my shoulder & it still looks like melted cheese.

Only positive is it is relatively smaller than it was then as my shoulder is obviously bigger than when I was 5.

[Vee]

You moved the books indicating that was the exact space you wanted the tray to be placed. Does that make it your fault ?

Come on, horrible that your child was injured but the blame is not with the server here. What do you expect from someone being paid minimum wage, full H&S training, the ability to second guess what a child will or will not do ?

[Forester1965]

Vee said:

What do you expect from someone being paid minimum wage?

How is that relevant in these circumstances?

[Tam_Mullen]

OP in another thread said:

It's sometimes what I love about PH, completely opposite opinions

And sometimes not it seems

Best luck to your daughter OP. I pulled a hot pot of soup on myself when a toddler, I don't remember but I would imagine it was much the same as what happened to your daughter. The colouring has completely gone and there is little to no scarring, just a slightly different skin texture.