Mr Bates vs The Post Office

[SydneyBridge]

GJ is giving evidence for 4 days, Vennels for 3, so they will be very interesting

[Boringvolvodriver]

mikeiow said:

False evidence by Post Office’s expert contradicted his own report https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68857142

Anyone believe ANY of those responsible for this debacle will ever see the inside of a prison at His Majesty’s pleasure?

My suspicion is that GJ might be the only one. I haven’t kept close to much of the detail on the inquiry, & I like to believe there will be enough people perjuring themselves that there could be more…..but I have my doubts.

It will be interesting to see if GJ actually turns up and gives evidence. IIRC he should have done earlier on but was ill .

ETA - attached link regarding his evidence - he would appear to be a bit concerned

https://www.postofficehorizoninquiry.org.uk/matter...

Edited by Boringvolvodriver on Friday 3rd May 08:55

[sir humphrey appleby]

I hope it is Julian Blake or Jason Beer questioning GJ, that would be a fierce watch.

[FiF]

mikeiow said:

False evidence by Post Office’s expert contradicted his own report https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68857142

Anyone believe ANY of those responsible for this debacle will ever see the inside of a prison at His Majesty’s pleasure?

My suspicion is that GJ might be the only one. I haven’t kept close to much of the detail on the inquiry, & I like to believe there will be enough people perjuring themselves that there could be more…..but I have my doubts.

Personally think that anyone actually prosecuted and at risk of jail will be relatively small fry sacrificial lambs.

There are many more who might (should) be subject to strong measures for misconduct from any professional body. Complete change of career at best.

There are others who frankly should never be trusted in any position again. Well perhaps a menial min wage job at a push. Some of these types have a habit of hiding in plain sight for a while then pass through a revolving door of some sort and, relatively speaking, come out with little change and smelling of roses. Too cynical?

The vindictive side of me wishes that some would suffer a similar fate as they inflicted on SPMs, loss of savings and home. That will never happen.

[TwinKam]

SydneyBridge said:

GJ is giving evidence for 4 days, Vennels for 3, so they will be very interesting

Will they show? Can they be compelled to turn up? Have they had to surrender their passports?
They are surely following the proceedings, watching the recent roastings.... would you voluntarily submit yourself to that?
Think I'd've been on a plane to somewhere faaaaar away long ago...

[732NM]

And here we go.

Warning about self incrimination repeated.

[Bonefish Blues]

Not me, I was very very junior and besides I'm going to answer a completely different question. Ah, it's you Mr Beer and you're not letting me get away with this bullst.

PS
I was very junior

[Tye Green]

cringe-worthy stuff

[732NM]

This is going to be a frustrating day listening to this gibberish.

[Tye Green]

hopefully Mr Stein will rip this guy to bits later

[Bonefish Blues]

This is shameful. Truly shameful.

[Dermot O'Logical]

Jarnail Singh has an air of "sacrificial lamb" about him, doesn't he?

I can't help thinking that if what we've seen so far (ignoring the legal types for now) represents the upper strata of Post Office management, it can't have been difficult to "rise to the top". Most of the senior management who have appeared at the Inquiry so far give the impression of being unable to remember how to get out of bed and dressed unaided.

[OMITN]

Brave of Singh to blame the inquiry for not sending the documents to him as he would have liked in order to make an accurate witness statement..!

[Short Grain]

the tribester said:

Sir Wyn might as well start tomorrow by giving Mr Singh the self imcrimination warning.

First thing I caught was Sir Wyn going through that. And pointing out that JS has a solicitor with him! Hmmm!

All he wants to do is deflect and waffle. Wasn't my responsibility, I was new, don't remember, it was him/them/ anybody else, wasn't aware, what's my name, where am I? Mr Beer is starting to get a bit 'techy'. May be the flu.

Not going well for JS and it's early!

[cookie1600]

Dermot O'Logical said:

Jarnail Singh has an air of "sacrificial lamb" about him, doesn't he?

I can't help thinking that if what we've seen so far (ignoring the legal types for now) represents the upper strata of Post Office management, it can't have been difficult to "rise to the top". Most of the senior management who have appeared at the Inquiry so far give the impression of being unable to remember how to get out of bed and dressed unaided.

Almost everyone that worked for the POL top teams either can't recall, or blames someone else for whatever the question is. Those seats must be wearing out with all the squeaky bums and wriggling.

Jason Beer is still razor sharp even when he has the flu!

[Bonefish Blues]

It's excruciating. If it's an act it's brilliant in its front. If he's really that stupid then he shouldn't have been let anywhere near a position such as the one he held.

[732NM]

Blimey, thats amazing finding that document string from the hard drive.

[vaud]

Don't know how to save a document?

So criminal and incompetent.

[simon_harris]

What that locations shows is that the document was opened from the email and automatically stored in a temp location. He didn't actively save it to that location. but he certainly opened the document and read it.

fk me he has just hung himself out to dry there...

[vaud]

simon_harris said:

What that locations shows is that the document was opened from the email and automatically stored in a temp location. He didn't actively save it to that location. but he certainly opened the document and read it.

It does indeed.