Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

[S600BSB]

blueg33 said:

Wombat3 said:

He's not running a Lame Duck government though. He has a comfortable working majority so he can get stuff done & put legislation onto the books. Being unpopular doesn't make it a lame duck.

ironically, the legislation he and his fellow no-hopers are trying to push through is pretty lame and targeted not at helping the country, but appeasing the red meat eaters of the tory voters.

It appears - at least from reports in the media - that the process of policy development etc has pretty much ground to a halt across Whitehall as the GE approaches.

[sugerbear]

hidetheelephants said:

Mr Penguin said:

F1GTRUeno said:

I find it kind of staggering that he has a choice in the matter to be honest.

How in the fking hell did we ever let the current leader pick when an election is called and why have we never changed that?

It should be mandatory after a certain period.

We did change it, it turned out to cause bigger problems when parliament had broken down than the problems it solves in cases like this so it was repealed.

No, it was removed "because inconvenient" by the most irresponsible govt the UK has had in modern times.

Exaclty this, the tories didn't like the "new" act as it required approval from the opposition. They liked the "old" system because they could call an election at the best time in the election cycle to get themselves elected, so effectively giving themselves a 7/8 year term if things went well.

When that wasn't convenient they reverted to a system that was entirely beneficial to themselves because they wanted an election to push through (the many lies of) brexit.

They are now holding out until next year in the hope that things improve but really this is the time that the opposition would agree to an election under the old system.

Sunak will leave the election until the last possible moment. He knows he is finished, but he needs a reasonably long period of time in office to cement his.. (cough) legacy and start on that lucrative book deal / speaking circuit.

[blueg33]

S600BSB said:

blueg33 said:

Wombat3 said:

He's not running a Lame Duck government though. He has a comfortable working majority so he can get stuff done & put legislation onto the books. Being unpopular doesn't make it a lame duck.

ironically, the legislation he and his fellow no-hopers are trying to push through is pretty lame and targeted not at helping the country, but appeasing the red meat eaters of the tory voters.

It appears - at least from reports in the media - that the process of policy development etc has pretty much ground to a halt across Whitehall as the GE approaches.

Which you would expect when they know they will not be in government after the election and that the party needs a wholesale shakeup before its electable again.

Thats why its frustrating that they ar6e just wasting time, with no real ideas how to even start sorting out the mess that is their legacy

Rischi - Call an election and give someone else a go rather than wallow in your incompetence whilst continuing to do harm to the country

[Mr Penguin]

sugerbear said:

Exaclty this, the tories didn't like the "new" act as it required approval from the opposition. They liked the "old" system because they could call an election at the best time in the election cycle to get themselves elected, so effectively giving themselves a 7/8 year term if things went well.

It's not just the Tories. Most PMs call elections when it is convenient. Blair used 4 year terms for this reason, Wilson also called a second election twice because he thought he would gain seats, and repealing the FTPTA was also in Labour's 2019 manifesto. The FTPA didn't really change those elections of convenience because you can call one with 2/3 of parliament, or half if you bypass it.

Conservative 2019 manifesto: "get rid of the Fixed Term Parliaments Act–it has led to paralysis at a time the country needed decisive action.”
Labour 2019 manifesto: “repeal the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, which has stifled democracy and propped up weak governments.”

[Speed 3]

blueg33 said:

S600BSB said:

blueg33 said:

Wombat3 said:

He's not running a Lame Duck government though. He has a comfortable working majority so he can get stuff done & put legislation onto the books. Being unpopular doesn't make it a lame duck.

ironically, the legislation he and his fellow no-hopers are trying to push through is pretty lame and targeted not at helping the country, but appeasing the red meat eaters of the tory voters.

It appears - at least from reports in the media - that the process of policy development etc has pretty much ground to a halt across Whitehall as the GE approaches.

Which you would expect when they know they will not be in government after the election and that the party needs a wholesale shakeup before its electable again.

Thats why its frustrating that they ar6e just wasting time, with no real ideas how to even start sorting out the mess that is their legacy

Rischi - Call an election and give someone else a go rather than wallow in your incompetence whilst continuing to do harm to the country

Isn't that what's called "shouting at clouds" when you've already articulated what the clouds do and why

Edited by Speed 3 on Tuesday 30th April 10:42

[XCP]

Who would pay money to listen to him speak?
Who would buy his book, for that matter?

[blueg33]

Speed 3 said:

Isn't that what's called "shouting at clouds" when you've already articulated what the clouds do and why

Edited by Speed 3 on Tuesday 30th April 10:42

I'm oldish - I am allowed to shout at clouds - they are bds

[S600BSB]

blueg33 said:

Speed 3 said:

Isn't that what's called "shouting at clouds" when you've already articulated what the clouds do and why

Edited by Speed 3 on Tuesday 30th April 10:42

I'm oldish - I am allowed to shout at clouds - they are bds

Thought so.

[bitchstewie]

I wonder which ones.

'Rishi's thrown you under a bus': Cabinet ministers 'supported' Lee Anderson's attack on Sadiq Khan

[anonymoususer]

A big day today for Rishi and the lads in charge.
I actually believe that if they hold 10 of their councils it will be a startling victory. Mid term blues will hit them.
So there it is losing 90% is IMHO (and more than likely a lot of Tory MP's they interview tonight and tomorrow) is not really a loss.

[Hippea]

Any chance if the result is so bad he’ll announce a general election tomorrow?

[blueg33]

S600BSB said:

blueg33 said:

Speed 3 said:

Isn't that what's called "shouting at clouds" when you've already articulated what the clouds do and why

Edited by Speed 3 on Tuesday 30th April 10:42

I'm oldish - I am allowed to shout at clouds - they are bds

Thought so.

Did the irony escape you?

Anyway, whats old? Someone who is 10 thinks a 20 year old is old, a 20 year old thinks a 40 year old is old, a 40 year old thinks a 60 year old is old, a 60 year old thinks an 80- year old is old etc

[Sway]

Hippea said:

Any chance if the result is so bad he’ll announce a general election tomorrow?

Not a chance in hell.

Why on earth would he do that?

[S600BSB]

blueg33 said:

S600BSB said:

blueg33 said:

Speed 3 said:

Isn't that what's called "shouting at clouds" when you've already articulated what the clouds do and why

Edited by Speed 3 on Tuesday 30th April 10:42

I'm oldish - I am allowed to shout at clouds - they are bds

Thought so.

Did the irony escape you?

Anyway, whats old? Someone who is 10 thinks a 20 year old is old, a 20 year old thinks a 40 year old is old, a 40 year old thinks a 60 year old is old, a 60 year old thinks an 80- year old is old etc

Ok man, calm down.

[blueg33]

S600BSB said:

blueg33 said:

S600BSB said:

blueg33 said:

Speed 3 said:

Isn't that what's called "shouting at clouds" when you've already articulated what the clouds do and why

Edited by Speed 3 on Tuesday 30th April 10:42

I'm oldish - I am allowed to shout at clouds - they are bds

Thought so.

Did the irony escape you?

Anyway, whats old? Someone who is 10 thinks a 20 year old is old, a 20 year old thinks a 40 year old is old, a 40 year old thinks a 60 year old is old, a 60 year old thinks an 80- year old is old etc

Ok man, calm down.

Quite calm thanks

[Collectingbrass]

Hippea said:

Any chance if the result is so bad he’ll announce a general election tomorrow?

The_News_Agents_Podcast discussed this last night.
Because of funding cuts most of the counts wont be completed till the end of the weekend, possibly Monday. Also, the counts that are expected to declare on Friday are in Tory strong holds so the initial headlines will be quite good won't be that bad. The real blood on the walls comes on Sunday / Monday and with the Mayoral elections.

[President Merkin]

Interesting graph I saw today. Taking out blips like Truss, the Tory vote share is declining at about 0.5% per month & has been for a while. While I don't expect them to poll at 15% & campaigns change things, as do events, waiting for something helpful to come aloing isn't itself a neutral act. The longer it's left, the more there is to overturn & absent a handy war or similar, they are well past the point of no return. Which begs the question, why not now?

[768]

That 0.5% isn't going to Labour now though, so it's difficult to know how much it's really still disappearing come general election time. And they're probably clinging to past performance not being indicative of future results.

Beyond all that, if they go now, based on the polls, they lose. They fear losing, not losing by a bit more.

[z4RRSchris]

it’s understood that a bloodbath in the locals will mean a July GE as he won’t want to face a confidence vote.

[captain_cynic]

z4RRSchris said:

it’s understood that a bloodbath in the locals will mean a July GE as he won’t want to face a confidence vote.

We can only hope.

I'm still thinking they'll hold on as long as possible to grift as much as they can for Tory donors.