Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

[S600BSB]

blueg33 said:

tangerine_sedge said:

bhstewie said:

No comments on the Conservative performance overnight?

I wonder why.

Give them chance to read how to spin it on the Daily Mail website...FFS

I don't think that even the mail can spin this. Looking at their website they are listing losses, eg

Daily Wail said:

Labour also claimed a 'truly historic result' to take Rushmoor - the home of the British Army - from the Tories and end nearly a quarter-of-a century of Conservative control.

Absolutely. Incredible results for Labour.

I did some canvassing and leafleting for Labour in what will be a key target seat at the GE. The organisation was incredible. Never seen anything like at previous elections.

[p1stonhead]

abzmike said:

smn159 said:

bhstewie said:

Rwanda.

That's what people want.

Richard Holden said so this morning.

I'm not even joking.

That's what the gammons want. Normal people - not so much

They are switching to Reform en-masse - The swings in wards are telling - Con -15%, Ref +15% - Virtually one-to-one correlation splitting the right wing vote and handing seats to Labour.
So despite Reform not having any more of a workable idea about what to do about imigration, Con voters are just sick of the government pretending they do. Finally seeing this on such a scale in ballott boxes will unsettle MPs - Whether they get letter writing we shall see.

Edited by abzmike on Friday 3rd May 09:32

Didn’t someone in Reform UK Ltd respond with ‘absolutely’ when asked if he would let people drown in the Channel?

Edit - apparently someone call Ben Habid

But if people scuppered a boat, he said, they would have to “suffer the consequences of their actions”.
“You would leave them to drown?” asked his host. “Absolutely,” Habib said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/ben-hab...

Edited by p1stonhead on Friday 3rd May 09:40

[dai1983]

I have an acquaintance who's been a Tory councilor since 2021 and does seem to do a fair amount but his pics are always "angry people in newspapers" while blaming Labour for everything bad in his ward.

His FB page is like your racist uncles with anti woke (doesn't understand the meaning of woke either), pro Brexit and misleading Turning Point memes.

Voted out by less than 200 votes. Get in

[blueg33]

p1stonhead said:

Didn’t someone in Reform UK Ltd respond with ‘absolutely’ when asked if he would let people drown in the Channel?

Edit - apparently someone call Ben Habid

But if people scuppered a boat, he said, they would have to “suffer the consequences of their actions”.
“You would leave them to drown?” asked his host. “Absolutely,” Habib said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/ben-hab...

Edited by p1stonhead on Friday 3rd May 09:40

What a scumbag

[Hippea]

July GE then?

[Rufus Stone]

Hippea said:

July GE then?

I think the Tories are more likely to hang on a long as possible. They know it won't make any difference but 6 months more in power is 6 months more in power.

[anonymoususer]

S600BSB said:

Absolutely. Incredible results for Labour.

I did some canvassing and leafleting for Labour in what will be a key target seat at the GE. The organisation was incredible. Never seen anything like at previous elections.

I can genuinely believe that. I saw some of their activists (I dont like to use that word it seems a bit military to me but anyway) going round Blackpool. The sheer amount of people going in and out of the Talbot Road offices was surprising.

[Mr Penguin]

Hippea said:

July GE then?

No, nobody wants to take over before the election because they will want to pin any bad results on Rishi and then they can brand themselves as a new start. All the posturing is getting ready for what happens after the election (and a little bit of getting the right result because some candidates will do better after a wipeout and others after a narrow defeat).

[Fermit]

p1stonhead said:

Didn’t someone in Reform UK Ltd respond with ‘absolutely’ when asked if he would let people drown in the Channel?

Edit - apparently someone call Ben Habid

But if people scuppered a boat, he said, they would have to“suffer the consequences of their actions".“You would leave them to drown?”asked his host.“Absolutely,”Habib said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/ben-hab...

Edited by p1stonhead on Friday 3rd May 09:40

Sub human scum.

[Randy Winkman]

Fermit said:

p1stonhead said:

Didn’t someone in Reform UK Ltd respond with ‘absolutely’ when asked if he would let people drown in the Channel?

Edit - apparently someone call Ben Habid

But if people scuppered a boat, he said, they would have to“suffer the consequences of their actions".“You would leave them to drown?”asked his host.“Absolutely,”Habib said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/ben-hab...

Edited by p1stonhead on Friday 3rd May 09:40

Sub human scum.

One of my favourite TV shows is "Saving Lives at Sea" about the work of the RNLI and I really like it when they make the point that they are proud to help anyone that needs it. I also like that they never make judgements about foolhardy behaviour. I bet that the sort of people who say they would let others drown are simply not the sort of people that would risk their lives saving anyone, whoever they were.

[Derek Smith]

Mr Penguin said:

Losing half of councillors seems like what was expected but less than a third of results are in so let's see how it changes over the rest of the day.

How's that going?

[Rivenink]

Randy Winkman said:

Fermit said:

p1stonhead said:

Didn’t someone in Reform UK Ltd respond with ‘absolutely’ when asked if he would let people drown in the Channel?

Edit - apparently someone call Ben Habid

But if people scuppered a boat, he said, they would have to“suffer the consequences of their actions".“You would leave them to drown?”asked his host.“Absolutely,”Habib said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/ben-hab...

Edited by p1stonhead on Friday 3rd May 09:40

Sub human scum.

One of my favourite TV shows is "Saving Lives at Sea" about the work of the RNLI and I really like it when they make the point that they are proud to help anyone that needs it. I also like that they never make judgements about foolhardy behaviour. I bet that the sort of people who say they would let others drown are simply not the sort of people that would risk their lives saving anyone, whoever they were.

They're the type of people that will claim that "we should look after our own" when it comes to a discussion about asylum seekers and refugees, and without a moment of critical thought, tell us about how homeless people are people who have chosen a lifestyle, and that they should get a job and stop taking drugs, and not expect the rest of society to help them, before claiming anyone on benefits is a work-shy scrounger ripping off the tax-payer.

[smn159]

Derek Smith said:

Mr Penguin said:

Losing half of councillors seems like what was expected but less than a third of results are in so let's see how it changes over the rest of the day.

How's that going?

The Greens are doing well. Maybe the wider electorate are not as invested in xenophobic culture wars as some hoped?

[Mr Penguin]

Derek Smith said:

How's that going?

Still about the same, no? Had 248, lost 127, loss of 51.2%.

[Mr Penguin]

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-polit...

Conservatives have been at around 8/1 for most seats for the last few weeks and I've been waiting for the price to change. It is now 13/1. Time to buy.

[Halmyre]

hairykrishna said:

S600BSB said:

Fabulous that Boris was turned away from his local polling station yesterday because he had forgotten his ID!

Seemed a fairly transparent ploy to get his face on the news to me.

Yes, does anyone really think Johnson would turn out to vote in the first place?

[119]

The Tories are certainly well and truly done and I would be gobsmaked if sunak didn’t bail fairly soon and leave it to someone else to take over the party.

God knows who though as they ain’t got anyone left!

[F1GTRUeno]

DeejRC said:

The setting of a GE has always been within the purview of the PM and governing party. It is one of the strongest tools a govt has and the rules have always been laid out so that is a govt advantage. It’s also a system that works. When we tried to change that, we invoked chaos. It’s like removing the Chairman’s vote, the black ball advantage - you promoted systemic stalemate and the resulting chaos ensued. It was not rocket science for everyone involved to quickly come to the conclusion of not doing that again. And it was a fairly universally shared opinion across Parliament to sod that again!
As such it isn’t about “spine” or whatever, it’s about seeking the strongest tactical advantage you can for your side as to when you set the GE. It always has been, it always will be. For this cycle that was always going to be autumn - it had to be for Rishi’s bet to pay off. He only had one play and that was time. Time to get inflation down and time to get the IRs down. Well it’s almost half worked, but he’s only going to get *at best* 2 IR reductions before autumn, probably only one. And that won’t be enough to save the day. It still remains the only play he has though. Labour will almost certainly win the GE and yes, SKS et al will inherit much more benign economic conditions than Rishi had to play with. Hunt actually did pretty good remedial work as Chancellor with the limited amount he had to work with. Given that nobody likes Jeremy Hunt it’s amusingly ironic that he might escape from this looking ok.
TLDR: Labour will win, there probably isn’t much Rishi n co can do, but they will try to maximise their advantages as any govt does.

It doesn't work though.

Nobody wants Rishi yet he can decide when he wants to lose his job.

It incentivises the greedy to hold on to power at all costs rather than actually get st done.

Giving an advantage in political things is fking stupid and not representative of the people's will.

[Hippea]

119 said:

The Tories are certainly well and truly done and I would be gobsmaked if sunak didn’t bail fairly soon and leave it to someone else to take over the party.

God knows who though as they ain’t got anyone left!

You would think that would be the logical thing to do, sadly I don’t see it happening

[119]

Halmyre said:

hairykrishna said:

S600BSB said:

Fabulous that Boris was turned away from his local polling station yesterday because he had forgotten his ID!

Seemed a fairly transparent ploy to get his face on the news to me.

Yes, does anyone really think Johnson would turn out to vote in the first place?

That’s all a bit moot as he returned shortly after and voted.