45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

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5 In a Row

1,497 posts

228 months

Friday 3rd May
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Off topic slightly but Arizona have now repealed their 1864 abortion law.

However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?

captain_cynic

12,136 posts

96 months

Friday 3rd May
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McGee_22 said:
Perhaps it’s my odd sense of perspective but I see it as the opposite end of the spectrum to compulsory voting - both systems are there to reduce and discourage voter apathy which, let’s be fair, can be a danger to and sometimes the death of democracy’s.
Compulsory voting does nothing to combat voter apathy, it just hides it.

I'm the last UK GE the number of spoiled ballots was under 0.4% where as in Australia in 2022 it averaged at 6.75% nationally with the majority having no markings. Some seats had as high as 10% with the electorate with the highest number got over 20% of votes being declared invalid at the count.

A lot of Australians just tick the first box, unfortunately there is no way to measure this beyond how many votes that candidate (MP) or party (senate) gets and just how coveted the first box on the ballot is. If it goes to a minor party, the majority parties are bending over backwards for a preference deal.

Honestly with the obvious flaws of the Wyoming system, I'd prefer it to the Australian system of fining you A$180 for not voting (this now applies to state and local elections and Australia has 3 year terms). At least with a non compulsory system, we know how good or bad engagement is by the percentage of the electorate that doesn't vote.

Blackpuddin

16,615 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd May
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5 In a Row said:
Off topic slightly but Arizona have now repealed their 1864 abortion law.

However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
hehe

threespires

4,298 posts

212 months

Friday 3rd May
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Trump Jr joined Trump Snr in court yesterday.
Trump Jr's trumps trumped Trump Snr's trumps.

Whoozit

3,620 posts

270 months

Friday 3rd May
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McGee_22 said:
Perhaps it’s my odd sense of perspective but I see it as the opposite end of the spectrum to compulsory voting - both systems are there to reduce and discourage voter apathy which, let’s be fair, can be a danger to and sometimes the death of democracy’s.
Mmmm. I saw one of the earlier UK local election results this morning, based on only a one third turnout. Hardly a vote in favour of exercising democratic rights.

captain_cynic

12,136 posts

96 months

Friday 3rd May
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Whoozit said:
Mmmm. I saw one of the earlier UK local election results this morning, based on only a one third turnout. Hardly a vote in favour of exercising democratic rights.
Local elections have always had a low turnout, I'd be more interested of more or fewer people turned out for this one compared to the last local election.

In my council, that was last year.

Byker28i

60,501 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd May
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ScotHill said:
Byker28i said:
Interesting way to maintain the roll though, and quite drastic? Don't vote you get removed and have to register again?
I found it surprising.
Apparently you can re-register on the day with whatever ID you would need to bring to vote anyway, with a couple of exceptions. Seems like a non-story, in relation to Trump anyway, just the way things have worked for years.
Spotted this morning, just brought it up as a states practice. Didn't say anything gop

Byker28i

60,501 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd May
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threespires said:
Trump Jr joined Trump Snr in court yesterday.
Trump Jr's trumps trumped Trump Snr's trumps.
Eric was in court after many people reported trump had no family there. Probably the only recognisable trump with family values, had to sit and listen about daddy's multiple lengthy affairs.

And the business fraud in the company where he's one of the officers

threespires

4,298 posts

212 months

Friday 3rd May
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Byker28i said:
threespires said:
Trump Jr joined Trump Snr in court yesterday.
Trump Jr's trumps trumped Trump Snr's trumps.
Eric was in court after many people reported trump had no family there. Probably the only recognisable trump with family values, had to sit and listen about daddy's multiple lengthy affairs.

And the business fraud in the company where he's one of the officers
Poor boy...

ScotHill

3,200 posts

110 months

Friday 3rd May
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Byker28i said:
Spotted this morning, just brought it up as a states practice. Didn't say anything gop
It’s a Trump thread though, the implication is there.

Byker28i

60,501 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd May
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ScotHill said:
Byker28i said:
Spotted this morning, just brought it up as a states practice. Didn't say anything gop
It’s a Trump thread though, the implication is there.
Well, maybe in your head, I'll take that on board, but we do discuss general politics loosely

Byker28i

60,501 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd May
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VonSchitzenpants is trending

Someones faked Marge biggrin
https://twitter.com/i/status/1786347892350857543

and faked



Byker28i

60,501 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd May
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More Nuata based testimony released.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscour...

trump unusually returned to magalardo 'to check on things', upto 20 boxes moved into the storage room, a laptop with PDF scans of the stolen documents, details of his phones...

and Nuata contacted a Secret Service agent from the storage room, who said he was walking over? Is this the same one he was texting before?


The agents whose phones all got wiped and swapped out?



Edited by Byker28i on Friday 3rd May 13:31

Matt Harper

6,623 posts

202 months

Friday 3rd May
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Blackpuddin said:
5 In a Row said:
Off topic slightly but Arizona have now repealed their 1864 abortion law.

However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
hehe
bk(s) is not a word used in the American lexicon, in my experience.

CivicDuties

4,829 posts

31 months

Friday 3rd May
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Matt Harper said:
Blackpuddin said:
5 In a Row said:
Off topic slightly but Arizona have now repealed their 1864 abortion law.

However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
hehe
bk(s) is not a word used in the American lexicon, in my experience.
I expect the name is a misspelled Slavic surname, Boli?. Lots of people got their names spelled wrongly on arrival in the States and they and their descendants stuck with it.

RustyMX5

7,230 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd May
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CivicDuties said:
Matt Harper said:
Blackpuddin said:
5 In a Row said:
Off topic slightly but Arizona have now repealed their 1864 abortion law.

However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
hehe
bk(s) is not a word used in the American lexicon, in my experience.
I expect the name is a misspelled Slavic surname, Boli?. Lots of people got their names spelled wrongly on arrival in the States and they and their descendants stuck with it.
More likely to be Germanic (Bolich) rather than Slav which would probably be more like Bolič. The large majority of male slav surnames end with an I or a Y. Female surnames tend to end with an A. Note that not those rules are not applicable all the time but are more of a guide.

Byker28i

60,501 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd May
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Virginia man arrested for trying to claim 8 of his co-workers took part in trumps insurrection, logged false tips to the FBI

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscour...

CivicDuties

4,829 posts

31 months

Friday 3rd May
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RustyMX5 said:
CivicDuties said:
Matt Harper said:
Blackpuddin said:
5 In a Row said:
Off topic slightly but Arizona have now repealed their 1864 abortion law.

However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
hehe
bk(s) is not a word used in the American lexicon, in my experience.
I expect the name is a misspelled Slavic surname, Boli?. Lots of people got their names spelled wrongly on arrival in the States and they and their descendants stuck with it.
More likely to be Germanic (Bolich) rather than Slav which would probably be more like Boli?. The large majority of male slav surnames end with an I or a Y. Female surnames tend to end with an A. Note that not those rules are not applicable all the time but are more of a guide.
Errr. A German called Bolich is probably a Slav by ancestry, the name would likely originally have been Boli? and Germanised to Bolich because German doesn't have that diacritic. Many Slav surnames, in the region of Southern Slav languages like Serbo-Croat, end in -i? rather than I or Y sounds (presume you're referring to -skii type surnames more prevalent in Eastern Slavic than Southern). An -i? ending would be very rare. Female surnames only end with an -a in some Slavic languages, by no means all of them. I suspect the name Boli? is from Serbo-Croat, a South Slavic language, in which surnames don't change for females. Not that this would have any bearing on an American female's surname in any case.

Here's a famous Boli?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvir_Boli%C4%87

(Credentials: a degree in Russian with a specialisation in Comparative Slavonic Philology, and also a decent Serbo-Croat speaker.)

Edited by CivicDuties on Friday 3rd May 15:09

5 In a Row

1,497 posts

228 months

Friday 3rd May
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CivicDuties said:
RustyMX5 said:
CivicDuties said:
Matt Harper said:
Blackpuddin said:
5 In a Row said:
Off topic slightly but Arizona have now repealed their 1864 abortion law.

However on reading the article I couldn't help laugh at the name of one of the Republicans who voted to repeal - Shawna Bolick.
That's got to be a made up name surely?
hehe
bk(s) is not a word used in the American lexicon, in my experience.
I expect the name is a misspelled Slavic surname, Boli?. Lots of people got their names spelled wrongly on arrival in the States and they and their descendants stuck with it.
More likely to be Germanic (Bolich) rather than Slav which would probably be more like Boli?. The large majority of male slav surnames end with an I or a Y. Female surnames tend to end with an A. Note that not those rules are not applicable all the time but are more of a guide.
Errr. A German called Bolich is probably a Slav by ancestry, the name would likely originally have been Boli? and Germanised to Bolich because German doesn't have that diacritic. Many Slav surnames, in the region of Southern Slav languages like Serbo-Croat, end in -i? rather than I or Y sounds (presume you're referring to -skii type surnames more prevalent in Eastern Slavic than Southern). An -i? ending would be very rare. Female surnames only end with an -a in some Slavic languages, by no means all of them. I suspect the name Boli? is from Serbo-Croat, a South Slavic language, in which surnames don't change for females. Not that this would have any bearing on an American female's surname in any case.

Here's a famous Boli?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvir_Boli%C4%87

(Credentials: a degree in Russian with a specialisation in Comparative Slavonic Philology, and also a decent Serbo-Croat speaker.)

Edited by CivicDuties on Friday 3rd May 15:09
Stop being all adult about it and join me in a childish snigger biggrin

CivicDuties

4,829 posts

31 months

Friday 3rd May
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5 In a Row said:
Stop being all adult about it and join me in a childish snigger biggrin
Bollix.

wink