PCC elections tomorrow

[snuffy]

XCP said:

I am a poll clerk at the PCC election in the morning.

Small polling station on the outskirts of a small town in NE Somerset.

No council elections just the PCC. Current incumbent seeking reelection, Conservative.

Anyone care to guess what the turnout will be in percentage terms?

I will reveal the answer on Friday.

20%.

[the tribester]

I'm going 12%.

I'm a postal voter and saw nothing of the Incumbent PCC or the two challengers portfolios and had to search it out.
All the usual cut crime, increase Officers etc, but one had 'Crackdown on illegal sewage dumping'

Is that a Police matter?

[CoolHands]

I had to practically force the presiding officer to record my being unable to vote due to not having photo ID on the correct form to be reported. I’m the only one. So the statistics will be completely false since they clearly don’t want to report them / know how to report them / try and get you to desperately give them any kind of ID rather than report it. He seemed shocked that someone would want to have it noted.

By the way I am POSITIVE I previously commented on a thread about photo ID and I think it was a reasonably popular thread, does anyone know where it is? I think about 6 months ago, maybe a year. Cannot find it at all.

[Pupp]

It’s been officially removed because THEY don’t want anyone to know anything about their little ploy…

[Tankrizzo]

Looking like a predictably terrible night for the Tories then. I can't see how anyone is surprised at this point.

[tangerine_sedge]

CoolHands said:

I had to practically force the presiding officer to record my being unable to vote due to not having photo ID on the correct form to be reported. I’m the only one. So the statistics will be completely false since they clearly don’t want to report them / know how to report them / try and get you to desperately give them any kind of ID rather than report it. He seemed shocked that someone would want to have it noted.

By the way I am POSITIVE I previously commented on a thread about photo ID and I think it was a reasonably popular thread, does anyone know where it is? I think about 6 months ago, maybe a year. Cannot find it at all.

When I voted yesterday, I forgot my id and had to return later (luckily it's only a 10 minute walk). They certainly recorded my voting number/name on a sheet of shame which also contained another 4 or 5 entries...

[mcdjl]

We had to vote for a pointless regional mayor as well as the ppcc.
I'm not sure if my vote will count as spoilt or not as I clearly only marked one box but also wrote what I thought of each of it.

[borcy]

The turnout for our PCC was 20%, which was higher than I thought.

[tangerine_sedge]

The turnout for our PCC was 23%, so much bigger than I expected!

[Rusty Old-Banger]

My local councillor (not PCC admittedly) won with a total (not a majority, but a total!) of less than 1200 votes. Apathy is at an all time high.

[fat80b]

I’m not sure the PCC elections have ever worked. My personal view is that the whole sorry thing should be disbanded and the near 100m quid should be spent elsewhere. We want less of this and not more.

What have any of the PCCs ever actually done?

We had a PCC election last time that was the only election at the time. I made the trek and voted but the turnout was very low. The wife quite rightly couldn’t be bothered.

In my case, I voted the same way I always did and scrawled a note to try and cheer up the counters whilst spoiling my ballot.

I’ve spoiled every single PCC ballot since it started and will continue to do so. A one man pointless protest if you will.

There was a good article in the spectator calling for the PCC to be abolished and it basically said everything I feel about it but nothing will change

[Tom8]

I really don't get the PCC thing at all.
What do they actually do to earn the wage they are paid?
Why are they now just political party based?
Can anyone give an example of something a PCC has done to make a difference, that is good or bad?

It all just seems like more money wasted on a total non job.

[Electro1980]

Good or bad? They waste Chief Constable time by trying to change operational activity of police forces to meet their own pet projects and political beliefs.

That’s about it. It’s based in the idea that more democracy is always better. The Tory idea that public bodies are wasteful and incompetent and the only way to improve them is to insert political interference from people with no knowledge at every level.

[sugerbear]

If you want to see a higher voter turnout then they should have an additional option.. Scrap the local PCC. I know I would get out and vote.

[We are all Brexiteers now]

XCP said:

I am a poll clerk at the PCC election in the morning.

Small polling station on the outskirts of a small town in NE Somerset.

No council elections just the PCC. Current incumbent seeking reelection, Conservative.

Anyone care to guess what the turnout will be in percentage terms?

I will reveal the answer on Friday.

9% in my station yesterday

[Tom8]

Electro1980 said:

Good or bad? They waste Chief Constable time by trying to change operational activity of police forces to meet their own pet projects and political beliefs.

That’s about it. It’s based in the idea that more democracy is always better. The Tory idea that public bodies are wasteful and incompetent and the only way to improve them is to insert political interference from people with no knowledge at every level.

I think that is what the role is in my mind. Some useless busy body interfering and then wanting to go in the police car and wear a stab vest to look cool.
I used to live in Kent and we had a primary school teacher who got elected. I think they did a documentary about her and it was worse than the office, but was sadly real.

[We are all Brexiteers now]

Mr Penguin said:

I'm not in your area but I only know we have the election because the council sent a polling card. No idea who the candidates are or who the incumbent is.

The trigger to many voters is the card arriving. They trot down to the station and only find out what was being voted when they arrive.

[snuffy]

If you only have PCC election, it's bound to be a lower turnout than if you have local elections on the day.

Last time, it was 23% for ours, so I'm interested to see what it was yesterday.

[We are all Brexiteers now]

CoolHands said:

I had to practically force the presiding officer to record my being unable to vote due to not having photo ID on the correct form to be reported. I’m the only one. So the statistics will be completely false since they clearly don’t want to report them / know how to report them / try and get you to desperately give them any kind of ID rather than report it. He seemed shocked that someone would want to have it noted.

By the way I am POSITIVE I previously commented on a thread about photo ID and I think it was a reasonably popular thread, does anyone know where it is? I think about 6 months ago, maybe a year. Cannot find it at all.

Then it is either the PO or the training they had. There is great emphasis and a great deal of paperwork to record how many get refused.
Thinking you should extrapolate your single incidence is nuts.

[XCP]

So the figure at our polling station was 10%.

Or to put it another way something over £10 cost for every vote cast.