The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 20]

The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 20]

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NRS

22,245 posts

202 months

Monday 29th April
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Flip Martian said:
worldwidewebs said:
NRS said:
Sounds very risky. Could be like Brendan again if the rumours there was correct. Coach says I want this person for my tactics, those above say no person x is better… it probably means less big swings when changing managers, but think there is a lot of risk with it.
Exactly what happened with Rogers. He wants player A; he's offered a choice between players B and C. He then 'had the final say' on transfers, but it masked the reality of what was going on
Except Slot has always worked as a coach and not a manager, so...he's not a Brendan. 1 would assume. The set up behind Brendan wasn't like it is now, either. Far less formalised a structure, and a bit of a mess, in truth. And before Edwards' time.

Seems like Klopp was then a part of the structure involving Edwards but there was clearly tension there over time, given how Edwards and then his replacement left. Reading between the lines it appears Slot has been employed in a different role to Klopp, 1 that Slot is used to, so 1 would hope those tensions in the past are now irrelevant. I guess we'll see. Can't always guarantee bringing expensive strangers together will work.

I'm less worried about Slot and more about our DoF, who came from Brighton. Hopefully he will step up ok.


Edited by Flip Martian on Sunday 28th April 09:55
It’s not the model that is the problem, it’s if the 3+ people involved don’t agree on the players they want to sign. Particularly if it’s the head coach who selects the players that disagrees.

Coach is offered 3 players. Thinks they are crap. Gots told to pick one anyway. That’s what the rumors suggest happened before. They might know their roles when coming in and so on, but it’s a question how do three people get on, and what happens if they completely disagree on new signings?

SWoll

18,512 posts

259 months

Monday 29th April
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Drabbesttunic said:
Bang on that is, regarding Salah, is a change going to be as good as a break?
Let's hope so!
It's a tough one to call. He does seem to have lost his edge at the minute, but hopefully a break will do him the world of good and potentially a subtle change of role could re-invigorate him. They do say that form is temporary, class is permanent after all.

My view with regards to him moving on is that it's 100% down to him. If he wants to go then we should let him and cash in, if he wants to stay then sort out a contract extension. Will be interesting to see how he reacts to the new team coming in and how the new boss see's his place in his plans.

Going to e a very interesting summer.

worldwidewebs

2,358 posts

251 months

Monday 29th April
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The cynic in me is wondering whether the noises about discussing a new deal with Salah are actually to trigger the Saudis into making a move sooner rather than later

SWoll

18,512 posts

259 months

Monday 29th April
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worldwidewebs said:
The cynic in me is wondering whether the noises about discussing a new deal with Salah are actually to trigger the Saudis into making a move sooner rather than later
Quite possibly. We know Edwards has very strong views and a lot of say going forward and that could well be the tactic, and who knows what came out of the conversations with Slot. They could well see Salah as the golden goose to be used to fund a bit of an overhaul?

Only time will tell..

Flip Martian

19,728 posts

191 months

Monday 29th April
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Remember Edwards isn't focusing just on Liverpool - he works for FSG and has a wider brief. It's our sporting director and his assistant who will be the main guys that Slot will work to/with. Although 1 would think for a few months at least that Edwards will be quite hands on.

Now I understand how Brendan's experience with the car crash we had before as "sporting director" (or equivalent) might cause us to worry that similar might happen here but conversely, if Klopp had got his way, we wouldn't have signed Salah. If Klopp HADN'T got his way, we would never have signed Karius... It can work both ways.

If it goes wrong - the worst that will happen is Slot leaves and another coach comes in. The management structure is in place and that won't change. We have to hope it's a successful one. Ultimately it's 3 appointments - the SD, his assistant, and Slot - that all have to work. And they're all new in post. Most of those writing articles I've seen about Slot's appointment are positive about this "coach not manager" role. I am cautiously optimistic and quite excited. While keeping my fingers crossed...

Adam.

27,319 posts

255 months

Monday 29th April
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Not writing Salah off but I don’t think he will sign an extension so it’s sell this summer or he walks in a free next

epom

11,591 posts

162 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Adam. said:
Not writing Salah off but I don’t think he will sign an extension so it’s sell this summer or he walks in a free next
Same here, I don’t think he’ll be with us next season. He will leave an all time great.

Adam.

27,319 posts

255 months

Tuesday 30th April
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epom said:
Same here, I don’t think he’ll be with us next season. He will leave an all time great.
New manager, couple of new players and CL

Think he will do one more year and leave on a free, for a nice sign on bonus in Saudi in Summer 2025

SWoll

18,512 posts

259 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Adam. said:
epom said:
Same here, I don’t think he’ll be with us next season. He will leave an all time great.
New manager, couple of new players and CL

Think he will do one more year and leave on a free, for a nice sign on bonus in Saudi in Summer 2025
Completely up to him at this point, and no-one can accuse him of not earning his money. At £37m he's got to go down as one of the best signings in PL history and owes us nothing from a financial perspective?

Pommy

14,273 posts

217 months

Tuesday 30th April
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SWoll said:
Adam. said:
epom said:
Same here, I don’t think he’ll be with us next season. He will leave an all time great.
New manager, couple of new players and CL

Think he will do one more year and leave on a free, for a nice sign on bonus in Saudi in Summer 2025
Completely up to him at this point, and no-one can accuse him of not earning his money. At £37m he's got to go down as one of the best signings in PL history and owes us nothing from a financial perspective?
He's a club legend and deserves every adulation and no negativity at all.

He's given us literally the best football of our lives, made us believe every match is winnable when he's on the pitch and has always given everything.

Top 5 Liverpool player of all time? Absolutely.

ChocolateFrog

25,640 posts

174 months

Tuesday 30th April
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I haven't looked but there must be a load of records within his grasp with another season in hand.

I'd imagine that will have some Sway over ab extra couple of million quid in a nothing league with conference level attendances.

ChocolateFrog

25,640 posts

174 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Fast Bug said:
SydneyBridge said:
BossHogg said:
Good luck in getting Citeh adhering to this!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cpeg...
'Manchester United, Manchester City and Aston Villa voted against the possible introduction of a spending cap on Monday, while Chelsea abstained.'

What a shock...
I'm surprised Villa voted against it, the other 3 not so much. Doesn't it need 16 clubs to vote in favour for a rule change to happen?

I think it's a good thing as it levels the playing field somewhat, hopefully it will put the emphasis firmly on youth development
Sounds like a recipe to make owners even richer to me.

Chris Stott

13,437 posts

198 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Pommy said:
He's a club legend and deserves every adulation and no negativity at all.

He's given us literally the best football of our lives, made us believe every match is winnable when he's on the pitch and has always given everything.

Top 5 Liverpool player of all time? Absolutely.
This 100%.

Ultra consistent at the very highest level for years… scored some outrageous goals… absolute legend.

Adam.

27,319 posts

255 months

Tuesday 30th April
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ChocolateFrog said:
Sounds like a recipe to make owners even richer to me.
I am sure the millions saved by the clubs will mean lower ticket and shirt prices.

And they will ask for less from Sky/TNT so our TV costs go down.

SWoll

18,512 posts

259 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Chris Stott said:
Pommy said:
He's a club legend and deserves every adulation and no negativity at all.

He's given us literally the best football of our lives, made us believe every match is winnable when he's on the pitch and has always given everything.

Top 5 Liverpool player of all time? Absolutely.
This 100%.

Ultra consistent at the very highest level for years… scored some outrageous goals… absolute legend.
My only comment would be that it's more Klopp that has given us the great football. Mo has been a considerable part of that but it's not all down to him of course.

ChocolateFrog said:
Fast Bug said:
SydneyBridge said:
BossHogg said:
Good luck in getting Citeh adhering to this!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cpeg...
'Manchester United, Manchester City and Aston Villa voted against the possible introduction of a spending cap on Monday, while Chelsea abstained.'

What a shock...
I'm surprised Villa voted against it, the other 3 not so much. Doesn't it need 16 clubs to vote in favour for a rule change to happen?

I think it's a good thing as it levels the playing field somewhat, hopefully it will put the emphasis firmly on youth development
Sounds like a recipe to make owners even richer to me.
I agree with an earlier comment (from Chris I think) that this could only work if applied across all European leagues, and that's never going to happen.

I bet Levy over at Spurs loved the idea as could spend even less of his huge profits on new players and get no earache for it. smile

Edited by SWoll on Tuesday 30th April 11:53

SWoll

18,512 posts

259 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Interesting discussion on what the spending cap really means to teams.


Flip Martian

19,728 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th April
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A substack from Josh Williams, who likes a good stat or 2, about appointing Slot and whether we should be excited or concerned (spoiler alert, he thinks the former):

https://distancecovered.substack.com/p/renovating-...

DSLiverpool

14,782 posts

203 months

Wednesday 1st May
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One spurs prem club row 1 upper Kenny.

DSLiverpool

14,782 posts

203 months

Wednesday 1st May
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DSLiverpool said:
One spurs prem club row 1 upper Kenny.
Gone

BossHogg

6,030 posts

179 months

Thursday 2nd May
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New retro shirt for next year unveiled, reminiscent of the 1984 shirt. (Crown Paint IIRC)