RE: Toyota GR Yaris | Spotted

[InitialDave]

fantheman80 said:

Are those rear bumper vents stick on though or cut in?

If they're the Tom's ones, they're cut into the bumper, a friend has a set on his GR.

[Wab1974uk]

NGK210 said:

FMIC upgrade but no remap? Yeah, right! Suspect remap’s been removed for the sale.

Needs a PPI / engine diagnostic by Toyota – will the 10-year warranty be valid?

There’s a 50:50 chance it’s been thrashed by someone with a f*ck ‘em ‘n’ chuck ‘em mentality.

Why risk it when there’re plenty of OEM-spec FSH 1-owner cars, with remainder of the 10-year warranty, for fewer £s?

Next.

You could say that about any Hot hatch TBH. At least the car is being sold with the upgrades, so the buyer knows exactly what they are buying.

I know from the Audi Forums, people modify their S3's / RS3's etc, and put them back to standard when it comes to PX or selling privately.

I'd rather buy knowing what's been done, rather than not.

[z89]

The Yaris doesn't look like they are depreciating much. Bummer for second hand bargain hunters.

Which probably means the 86s unlikely to depreciate at all since there's much less of them.

[CG2020UK]

Wab1974uk said:

Ford lost £7-8,000 on every MK1 Focus RS is built. It wasn't as bespoke as the Yaris, or did it develop a new AWD system for it, or give it a carbon roof, or front and rear trick diffs. The Diff fitted to the Focus was hot & miss. Great on smooth roads, but an absolute nightmare when not. And yes, I owned one from new for 2 years.

Edited by Wab1974uk on Thursday 2nd May 16:25

But I think it’s important to note only 4501 RS Mk1s were built and the losses were certainly not £7-8k on a £20k car. A quick google search says £4k but that it’s an internet forum rumour again.

There are also over 32,000 GR Yaris and more on the way so the scale is completely different!

spikyone said:

Look at the level of tech in that car and tell me it's a £30k car. Bespoke and particularly high performance engine, bespoke AWD system, virtually every body panel was bespoke and some of them were carbon.

All of those things were high cost in their own right, never mind the development costs that would only be amortised over a fairly small production run. Yet it was cheaper than a Golf R, which shares a whole lot more with other Golfs.

They built it for marketing, because it would've been the basis of their WRC car. They're not a charity but they got a hundred times more publicity off the back of this than they did from the regular Yaris, so think of the "loss" as Toyota paying for that publicity.

It’s nothing to do with the tech in the Yaris unfortunately.

I just don’t see Toyota doing it. They only exist to make money for their shareholders.

It’s just a myth someone has started on a forum for some weird reason as they think it means the car is more special when realistically it’s just a lack of understanding of how businesses operate.

If VW can make a Golf R for cheaper than a Yaris Gr yet sell it for more then fair play they are doing something right! The more margin the better.

Edited by CG2020UK on Thursday 2nd May 18:17

[MightyBadger]

Keep thinking I have spotted one of these but when I get closer realise its a sporty hybrid thing and not a GR.

[Dombilano]

mooseracer said:

Dombilano said:

J4CKO said:

Dombilano said:

Airtec, for the authentic 63 plate fiesta ST look in mcdonald's car park at 11pm

Or, on track during daylight hours lapping faster than any shopping car has any right to, picking on M2s and stuff key is to have an Airtec Intercooler but not have it show through the grille.

Airtec intercoolers are really quite good, just a bit heavy.

Wouldnt pay 36 grand for that though, doesnt need the kit and you dont generally get your money back on modifications.

Exactly my point, you don't need to show it, the association with chavs round here would make my balls shrink in shame. I'm sure Airtec or any other good intercooler brand work well.

And yet you have a 140?

(I have one too btw before you get all shirty )

I'm a former max power reader too for my sins

[fantheman80]

Wab1974uk said:

Ford lost £7-8,000 on every MK1 Focus RS is built. It wasn't as bespoke as the Yaris, or did it develop a new AWD system for it, or give it a carbon roof, or front and rear trick diffs. The Diff fitted to the Focus was hot & miss. Great on smooth roads, but an absolute nightmare when not. And yes, I owned one from new for 2 years.

Edited by Wab1974uk on Thursday 2nd May 16:25

It really was a roulette, I ran an RS as a daily for 8 years and genuinely never had the crazy torque steer some had and it was mapped with decent torque.

Anywho, Toyota would not make a st load more than originally planned and then the mk2 if they hadn’t got economies of scale sorted and a profit, albeit at a thinner margin imo.

[moonigan]

wistec1 said:

Got mine three weeks ago. 2000 miles. £31K. Makes this look expensive. They are outstanding cars all the same I just don't like it in black.

It’s a shame the red looks nothing like this in the flesh.

[ChocolateFrog]

supacool1 said:

The red is the best colour for these IMO. As others said, the black does it no favours and I am over the 'Triple Black' look.

Triple black has to be the worst aesthetic trend of the last 10 years or so.

Every Range Rover I've ever seen in 'murdered out' spec look ste and like it belongs on a council estate despite the fact it'll have cost £150k in the recent past.

[Leon R]

moonigan said:

It’s a shame the red looks nothing like this in the flesh.

Mine looks pretty good in the flesh.

[fantheman80]

Leon R said:

Mine looks pretty good in the flesh.

Looks lovely but I’d be tempted by spacers bring them goldies out

Can you get them without shaving your nuts?

[Baileyk]

fantheman80 said:

Can you get them without shaving your nuts?

Steady on old chap!

[Leon R]

fantheman80 said:

Leon R said:

Mine looks pretty good in the flesh.

Looks lovely but I’d be tempted by spacers bring them goldies out

Can you get them without shaving your nuts?

No mods until I find out about options on a MK2.

[theicemario]

Ooh another car in triple black. How imaginative

[Matt_T]

I know what you mean - me too! The body style of the regular Yaris is a good shape and has some rally vibes.

MightyBadger said:

Keep thinking I have spotted one of these but when I get closer realise its a sporty hybrid thing and not a GR.

[bencollins4]

CG2020UK said:

It’s nothing to do with the tech in the Yaris unfortunately.

I just don’t see Toyota doing it. They only exist to make money for their shareholders.

It’s just a myth someone has started on a forum for some weird reason as they think it means the car is more special when realistically it’s just a lack of understanding of how businesses operate.

If VW can make a Golf R for cheaper than a Yaris Gr yet sell it for more then fair play they are doing something right! The more margin the better.

Edited by CG2020UK on Thursday 2nd May 18:17

I think you need to do a bit more research if you think Akio Toyoda wasn’t prepared to sign this off and take a loss. It was made to homologate a rally car that never happened. Of course Toyota want to make a profit, but have a look at their financial results for the last few years and tell me if they are strapped for cash! Even a £10k loss on each car is a drop in the ocean given the brand benefits this car has given Toyota.

[Glenn63]

Any owners on here, do the rear seats fold flat? As to make a kind of little van for dog carrying duties?

[Composite Guru]

z89 said:

The Yaris doesn't look like they are depreciating much. Bummer for second hand bargain hunters.

Which probably means the 86s unlikely to depreciate at all since there's much less of them.

This is why I bought an GR86. Nice to own a fairly rare car.

[Leon R]

Glenn63 said:

Any owners on here, do the rear seats fold flat? As to make a kind of little van for dog carrying duties?

They fold totally flat.

[Neil1323bolts]

MightyBadger said:

Keep thinking I have spotted one of these but when I get closer realise its a sporty hybrid thing and not a GR.

It’s a rare car to see out and about on a normal week day, I guess most owners keep them as a special weekend car, or worried about putting unnecessary mileage on. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a red one on the open highway, for me it’s the best colour.