FREELY. Live TV over broadband 2024
Discussion
megaphone said:
ThingsBehindTheSun said:
megaphone said:
You should be able to get an aerial installed for £150-200.
My house was completely renovated a few years ago, I don't want someone who doesn't care about my house running a cable from the roof to my front room.Either I am left with an ugly, visible cable running through the inside of my house or I have to chase it into the wall and decorate the whole house again.
Seems a lot of hassle to be able to watch repeats of Wheeler Dealers and American Pickers.
this is one of the points I'm trying to make - I stream everything I need (I have an aerial but it's not plugged In) All on the same EPG and with a single remote. I don't have to struggle with apps, I hate them. Freely can offer me nothing that I can't already do plus a lot more and I don't have to buy 3 new TV's to use it. So what's the plus side of Freely TV? I'd love to know and am prepared to eat humble pie if I missed something 
Digger said:
dickymint said:
SpidersWeb said:
snuffy said:
SpidersWeb said:
snuffy said:
Cost of my broadband now without Freely :£50.
Paying too much for your broadband though... 
I'm lying
dickymint said:
this is one of the points I'm trying to make - I stream everything I need (I have an aerial but it's not plugged In) All on the same EPG and with a single remote. I don't have to struggle with apps, I hate them. Freely can offer me nothing that I can't already do plus a lot more and I don't have to buy 3 new TV's to use it. So what's the plus side of Freely TV? I'd love to know and am prepared to eat humble pie if I missed something It isn’t being launched to the masses yet. It’s being launched exclusively with the two manufacturers mentioned who are using it to push the sales of their TVs. Which is a shame.
It will become a normal plug in stick / box / app etc when the launch period with HiSense runs out.
You are currently paying a big premium to do what you have described. Freely hopefully will do that for no extra cost…eventually.
It may or may not be the answer. It hasn’t been launched with the full suite of features, nobody here has yet tried it. I do know though that this will be probably the way terrestrial TV drifts in the future.
SpidersWeb said:
To be honest I never really understand the argument of 'good customer service' with broadband companies.
I want a broadband company where I never have to deal with the customer service because the broadband just works. Why do you want to pay more for a company that has 'good customer service' if you never have to call them, or even worse, do have to call them because the broadband has gone down.
I will give you an example;I want a broadband company where I never have to deal with the customer service because the broadband just works. Why do you want to pay more for a company that has 'good customer service' if you never have to call them, or even worse, do have to call them because the broadband has gone down.
When I was on ADSL, my speeds started get worse and worse. Zen arranged for Openreach to come out and check it all. If they found no faults with their end, I had to agree to pay £200 or so.
They came out, fiddled around in my house, then said they were going to do a lift-and-shift, so off they went. Hmm, I was monitoring my connection, no lift-and-shift occurred.
Then OR claimed "no fault found, £200 please".
Zen asked me for story of what they did, i pointed out about no lift-and-shift taking place. Then then checked their logs, they then confirmed said claim from BT was a massive lie. Then Zen instructed OR to have another go.
OR then did have another go, and fixed the issue, which was clearly their issue, so no more demand for £200.
My point being, that is what I call good customer service from my ISP. Almost all BB connections are from Openreach, not your ISP, and OR are piss-poor, so you need a ISP who will kick them up the arse.
Ham_and_Jam said:
dickymint said:
this is one of the points I'm trying to make - I stream everything I need (I have an aerial but it's not plugged In) All on the same EPG and with a single remote. I don't have to struggle with apps, I hate them. Freely can offer me nothing that I can't already do plus a lot more and I don't have to buy 3 new TV's to use it. So what's the plus side of Freely TV? I'd love to know and am prepared to eat humble pie if I missed something It isn’t being launched to the masses yet. It’s being launched exclusively with the two manufacturers mentioned who are using it to push the sales of their TVs. Which is a shame.
It will become a normal plug in stick / box / app etc when the launch period with HiSense runs out.
You are currently paying a big premium to do what you have described. Freely hopefully will do that for no extra cost…eventually.
It may or may not be the answer. It hasn’t been launched with the full suite of features, nobody here has yet tried it. I do know though that this will be probably the way terrestrial TV drifts in the future.
snuffy said:
I will give you an example;
When I was on ADSL, my speeds started get worse and worse. Zen arranged for Openreach to come out and check it all. If they found no faults with their end, I had to agree to pay £200 or so.
They came out, fiddled around in my house, then said they were going to do a lift-and-shift, so off they went. Hmm, I was monitoring my connection, no lift-and-shift occurred.
Then OR claimed "no fault found, £200 please".
Zen asked me for story of what they did, i pointed out about no lift-and-shift taking place. Then then checked their logs, they then confirmed said claim from BT was a massive lie. Then Zen instructed OR to have another go.
OR then did have another go, and fixed the issue, which was clearly their issue, so no more demand for £200.
My point being, that is what I call good customer service from my ISP. Almost all BB connections are from Openreach, not your ISP, and OR are piss-poor, so you need a ISP who will kick them up the arse.
Kinda the same experience with Zen.When I was on ADSL, my speeds started get worse and worse. Zen arranged for Openreach to come out and check it all. If they found no faults with their end, I had to agree to pay £200 or so.
They came out, fiddled around in my house, then said they were going to do a lift-and-shift, so off they went. Hmm, I was monitoring my connection, no lift-and-shift occurred.
Then OR claimed "no fault found, £200 please".
Zen asked me for story of what they did, i pointed out about no lift-and-shift taking place. Then then checked their logs, they then confirmed said claim from BT was a massive lie. Then Zen instructed OR to have another go.
OR then did have another go, and fixed the issue, which was clearly their issue, so no more demand for £200.
My point being, that is what I call good customer service from my ISP. Almost all BB connections are from Openreach, not your ISP, and OR are piss-poor, so you need a ISP who will kick them up the arse.
I had an issue around Christmas 2022/3. OR had to make 14 visits to sort it out (including digging up the road at visit #11), and Zen kept on top of them, and checked with me pretty much every time to see if what OR reported they'd done was actually done.
Although it's the 8 static IPs that also keep me with them
dickymint said:
"Big premium"? The bulk of my £80 quid is for all Sky Sports, all TNT Sports and 4k HD that I can drop anytime. From what I see Freely offers just an EPG to do away with having to use seperate apps - BT/EE already does that.
BT/EE boxes use your aerial signal to provide terrestrial channels. In my case, I live in an area where I cannot get a full Freeview signal. I have Freeview Lite which is approx 30% of the full channel range. I have to use Freesat to get everything and even then I still don't get everything that is available on Freeview.If Freely can give me everything that full fat Freeview shows then I won't have to pay a premium for a Freesat capable TV/Set top box. I won't have to worry about aerials OR dishes, I can just stream everything.
I'll still have to switch apps to get my sports. I use NowTV for Sky Sports and Discovery+ for TNT Sports. If Freely can incorporate both of them then I'd be over the moon.
Kenny68 said:
BT/EE boxes use your aerial signal to provide terrestrial channels. In my case, I live in an area where I cannot get a full Freeview signal. I have Freeview Lite which is approx 30% of the full channel range. I have to use Freesat to get everything and even then I still don't get everything that is available on Freeview.
If Freely can give me everything that full fat Freeview shows then I won't have to pay a premium for a Freesat capable TV/Set top box. I won't have to worry about aerials OR dishes, I can just stream everything.
I'll still have to switch apps to get my sports. I use NowTV for Sky Sports and Discovery+ for TNT Sports. If Freely can incorporate both of them then I'd be over the moon.
It feels like I'm banging my head on a brick wall in here so............... I might as well If Freely can give me everything that full fat Freeview shows then I won't have to pay a premium for a Freesat capable TV/Set top box. I won't have to worry about aerials OR dishes, I can just stream everything.
I'll still have to switch apps to get my sports. I use NowTV for Sky Sports and Discovery+ for TNT Sports. If Freely can incorporate both of them then I'd be over the moon.
I'm currently watching my TV without the aerial plugged in, Why? because I don't have to (which is good because it's in my attic and the signal is piss poor in bad weather and aligned to a local mast in Wales and wont pick up the Mendips mast) I stream all Freeview channels live (as live as streaming can be) I can pause, record 1TB of programmes. It's all available on the same programme guide so using apps is pretty rare. Here's a screenshot of the first page of the EPG taken just now................
I also have all Sky Sports and TNT Sports on the same EPG and much more. So no need for Now TV's or Discovery+'s crappy app etc.
What else do you need?
As it stands Freely has absolutely nothing to offer (and bear in mind you still need to pay for broadband as it doesn't offer anything via an aerial) that can't be done now, and more!
Out of interest what do you pay for broadband and TV plus TNT and Now TV ?
dickymint said:
It feels like I'm banging my head on a brick wall in here so............... I might as well
I'm currently watching my TV without the aerial plugged in, Why? because I don't have to (which is good because it's in my attic and the signal is piss poor in bad weather and aligned to a local mast in Wales and wont pick up the Mendips mast) I stream all Freeview channels live (as live as streaming can be) I can pause, record 1TB of programmes. It's all available on the same programme guide so using apps is pretty rare. Here's a screenshot of the first page of the EPG taken just now................
I also have all Sky Sports and TNT Sports on the same EPG and much more. So no need for Now TV's or Discovery+'s crappy app etc.
What else do you need?
As it stands Freely has absolutely nothing to offer (and bear in mind you still need to pay for broadband as it doesn't offer anything via an aerial) that can't be done now, and more!
Out of interest what do you pay for broadband and TV plus TNT and Now TV ?
It may offer nothing to you, but other peoples circumstances exist.I'm currently watching my TV without the aerial plugged in, Why? because I don't have to (which is good because it's in my attic and the signal is piss poor in bad weather and aligned to a local mast in Wales and wont pick up the Mendips mast) I stream all Freeview channels live (as live as streaming can be) I can pause, record 1TB of programmes. It's all available on the same programme guide so using apps is pretty rare. Here's a screenshot of the first page of the EPG taken just now................
I also have all Sky Sports and TNT Sports on the same EPG and much more. So no need for Now TV's or Discovery+'s crappy app etc.
What else do you need?
As it stands Freely has absolutely nothing to offer (and bear in mind you still need to pay for broadband as it doesn't offer anything via an aerial) that can't be done now, and more!
Out of interest what do you pay for broadband and TV plus TNT and Now TV ?
I can’t get BT / EE so your option doesn’t exist for me. I certainly wouldn’t pay £80 / month for broadband / TV subscriptons. I’m paying more than I want at the moment.
To answer your question - I pay £45 / month for FTTP broadband, NowTv, Netflix and Prime. I’ll ditch NowTv when it ends ends.
Ham_and_Jam said:
It may offer nothing to you, but other peoples circumstances exist.
I can’t get BT / EE so your option doesn’t exist for me. I certainly wouldn’t pay £80 / month for broadband / TV subscriptons. I’m paying more than I want at the moment.
To answer your question - I pay £45 / month for FTTP broadband, NowTv, Netflix and Prime. I’ll ditch NowTv when it ends ends.
Of course and I understand "other peoples circumstances exist" but Freely was hyped up well before their launch to be the answer to having Freeview channels streamed on the same EPG so as not to have the hassle of using apps. What i'm saying is that it's already available using BT or EE !I can’t get BT / EE so your option doesn’t exist for me. I certainly wouldn’t pay £80 / month for broadband / TV subscriptons. I’m paying more than I want at the moment.
To answer your question - I pay £45 / month for FTTP broadband, NowTv, Netflix and Prime. I’ll ditch NowTv when it ends ends.
How come you can't get BT/EE? You live in a rural location with no plan yet for a decent connection? That's similar to me as I can only get BT Fibre to the cabinet at the moment. There is a company that just started supplying FFTP via overhead lines at very good rates but alas that wont connect to BT/EE TV.
Anyhow as far your NowTV goes at least it's just a monthly rolling contract so easy to drop.
dickymint said:
How come you can't get BT/EE? You live in a rural location with no plan yet for a decent connection? That's similar to me as I can only get BT Fibre to the cabinet at the moment. There is a company that just started supplying FFTP via overhead lines at very good rates but alas that wont connect to BT/EE TV.
I live in a city that doesn’t have BT / OpenReach. Pretty much every property has FTTP, but until this year we only had one provider.I thinking judging Freely before it has launched is a bit premature. Let’s see how it performs, especially once it has become mainstream and the features are developed.
Ham_and_Jam said:
dickymint said:
How come you can't get BT/EE? You live in a rural location with no plan yet for a decent connection? That's similar to me as I can only get BT Fibre to the cabinet at the moment. There is a company that just started supplying FFTP via overhead lines at very good rates but alas that wont connect to BT/EE TV.
I live in a city that doesn’t have BT / OpenReach. Pretty much every property has FTTP, but until this year we only had one provider.I thinking judging Freely before it has launched is a bit premature. Let’s see how it performs, especially once it has become mainstream and the features are developed.
How bizarre is that!rider73 said:
Here's an interesting thought
Everything gets streamed
No more aerial
No more ability to record things
Always having ads on catch-up
Unless you go premium of course
Seems to be how it works. For example SD is being phased out so HD will be 'free' and UHD 4K will be the extra. Everything gets streamed
No more aerial
No more ability to record things
Always having ads on catch-up
Unless you go premium of course
snuffy said:
SpidersWeb said:
To be honest I never really understand the argument of 'good customer service' with broadband companies.
I want a broadband company where I never have to deal with the customer service because the broadband just works. Why do you want to pay more for a company that has 'good customer service' if you never have to call them, or even worse, do have to call them because the broadband has gone down.
I will give you an example;I want a broadband company where I never have to deal with the customer service because the broadband just works. Why do you want to pay more for a company that has 'good customer service' if you never have to call them, or even worse, do have to call them because the broadband has gone down.
When I was on ADSL...
Whereas my far cheaper connection has been absolutely fine forever, with no need to contact customer service.
dickymint said:
What else do you need?
As it stands Freely has absolutely nothing to offer (and bear in mind you still need to pay for broadband as it doesn't offer anything via an aerial) that can't be done now, and more!
I too have fttp via a provider that isn't BT.As it stands Freely has absolutely nothing to offer (and bear in mind you still need to pay for broadband as it doesn't offer anything via an aerial) that can't be done now, and more!
The answer to the question anyway is... competition.
snuffy said:
SpidersWeb said:
Whereas my far cheaper connection has been absolutely fine forever, with no need to contact customer service.
You only find out when something breaks. If it does not break, you'll never know.SpidersWeb said:
snuffy said:
SpidersWeb said:
Whereas my far cheaper connection has been absolutely fine forever, with no need to contact customer service.
You only find out when something breaks. If it does not break, you'll never know.But you know this, you're just being a prick.
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