4.7 N420/430

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morty1961

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379 posts

184 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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just wondered peoples opinions on the N series cars in particular the 4.7 versions ... would they be seen as a collectible version? N420/N430???

bogie

16,432 posts

274 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Well they are certainly rare but not sure about collectible. Most of the changes were added to the standard cars later other than the N badges.

V8V Pete

2,497 posts

128 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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N430 not that rare and was effectively a Vantage S without the carbon fibre splitter & diffuser. Otherwise spec was quite good as long as you like the colour schemes/stripes. Probably the most likely V8V that you will find lightweight seats in if your interested in those. Great Evo N430 video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkAT82-R0S8

justin220

5,354 posts

206 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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I own one of the N420 Roadsters and would agree, its nice having something a bit rarer, but I can't see it being sought after. I think the problem is there are so many Vantages out there in different variants, that it's almost difficult to differentiate.

I think as a car though it is great. Really offers some nice parts for the money.

morty1961

Original Poster:

379 posts

184 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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Should all N420's have lightweight seats fitted or were the heated sports seats a NCO ?

South tdf

1,533 posts

197 months

Sunday 20th August 2017
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I have seen a roadster N420 with the standard seats with the logo stitched on

nickv8

1,357 posts

85 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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It was my original intention to buy an N430 due to its write-up in Evo magazine by Henry Catchpole. The more I looked into it, it was a reduced-cost V8VSM with its lack of carbon but also lack of full leather as standard.

This sounds completely superficial, but I eventually gave up going for one as second-hand, the V8VSM examples were very little extra (new, there was a £10k difference?) with its much nicer leather and door cards. It could therefore be argued that any "investment" advantage/disadvantage of the N430 vs. V8VSM has already been played out by the original owner. Personally I also found the "technical" seat and door card material in the N430 a bit off putting, as I did the majority of the exterior colour schemes.

However, the reality was also that the whereas the N430 is rarer than the "run-of-the-mill" V8VM I eventually lumped for, ALL Aston Martins are rare, relatively. In 3-5 years time when Vantage production is a distant memory, my suspicion is that manuals of any ilk along with mileage, history and condition will play the largest factors. Truly special production runs such as the GT12 and the ultimate - V12 Zagato will naturally remain exclusive, but not so much the unlimited production run N430. Even the final 20 in special gunmetal grey colour combo.

I've avoided mentioning the N420 until now as that appeared to be a cosmetic job which was echoed in various publications including the AM Graydon "Bible".

shinjuku

476 posts

83 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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In many ways I agree with NickV8. If the question is "will it be worth more in the long run" who knows. Possibly a smidge.

I drove an N430 in the green/yellow scheme and it's a lovely green, and I did like the racing accents. But if I were buying in that bracket, and I'm not, then I would probably buy the V8S for similar money.

Buster73

5,082 posts

155 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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I've got one of the final 20 , ceramic grey with black lipstick .

With dark grey wheels , carbon waterfall, well finished inside with a mix of Alcantra and leather it's a nice subtle version of the Vantage.

In my humble opinion far better than any other standard N430 colour offerings .




Only thing I think they should have fitted is the carbon splitter and rear valance .

justin220

5,354 posts

206 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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South tdf said:
I have seen a roadster N420 with the standard seats with the logo stitched on
Yeah, my N420 roadster has the heated standard seats.

Do the lightweights have the heater option?

mysteron35

28 posts

218 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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I have an N420 in Carbon Black. It has the standard seats with heating and not the lightweight seats.

I didn't start out looking for an N420 but during my search for a good 4.7 stumbled across it. As mentioned most of the extra parts are things that could be optioned on any vantage at the time, but as a package it's a really lovely car.

To find a car with the spec of mine would have been a difficult task or a long wait. In addition to the carbon bits and pieces it has the AM sports exhaust, the N420 stitching including the race track pattern seats, alcantara wheel and from standard I believe they came fully optioned too.

I'm not really that into carbon but the rear diffuser alone is a lovely looking thing! I had hoped to find a car with the lightweight seats but the standard seats are very nice and I like the heating function.

Mines no 76.

Steve.


nickv8

1,357 posts

85 months

Monday 21st August 2017
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Buster73 said:
I've got one of the final 20 , ceramic grey with black lipstick .

With dark grey wheels , carbon waterfall, well finished inside with a mix of Alcantra and leather it's a nice subtle version of the Vantage.

In my humble opinion far better than any other standard N430 colour offerings.

Only thing I think they should have fitted is the carbon splitter and rear valance .
I agree it's the best N430 they made visually (although the black one was nice as well).

The carbon additions never bothered me personally. The first time I skimmed a high kerb whilst parking forwards (normally reverse park) I dreaded what it did to the front plastic splitter on my V8V. Thankfully it being plastic meant there was no resultant damage! Not sure the carbon splitter would have more wallet-melting?

WsmataU

1 posts

21 months

Friday 17th May
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Do all N420/430s have the stitching/embroidery? I am looking at a vehicle for purchase that doesn't have any embroidery but does have the N420 door sills. Was the stitching an option?

Jon39

12,900 posts

145 months

Friday 17th May
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How about buying a 4.7, then having N420 sills fitted.
No embroidery then.
There is more than one type of sill, but I don't know the differences. The V12 Vantage version is one design.


Edited by Jon39 on Friday 17th May 21:36

bogie

16,432 posts

274 months

Friday 17th May
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WsmataU said:
Do all N420/430s have the stitching/embroidery? I am looking at a vehicle for purchase that doesn't have any embroidery but does have the N420 door sills. Was the stitching an option?
Has it got all the other "N" bits other than the stitching ?

spec list here of key differences https://astonmartins.com/car-category/vh-architect...


Grant3

3,638 posts

257 months

Saturday 18th May
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The seat embroidery was an option on N420.. hope this helps?

Grant3

3,638 posts

257 months

Saturday 18th May
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bogie said:
Has it got all the other "N" bits other than the stitching ?
How are things with you Bogie?
What’s the mileage on your lovely Roadster now biggrin

bogie

16,432 posts

274 months

Saturday 18th May
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Grant3 said:
How are things with you Bogie?
What’s the mileage on your lovely Roadster now biggrin
All good thx mate thumbup

76k miles now, not so many in recent years, its currently in for a 10yr service then off to LeMans in it next month.

Likely it will be up for sale in couple of months. Really fancy a V12V Roadster when I find one in the right spec smile

Grant3

3,638 posts

257 months

Saturday 18th May
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bogie said:
All good thx mate thumbup
76k miles now, not so many in recent years, its currently in for a 10yr service then off to LeMans in it next month.
Likely it will be up for sale in couple of months. Really fancy a V12V Roadster when I find one in the right spec smile
76k, brilliant, I love the way you really use your Astons bow

Be sure to test drive the V12V Roadster first you may be surprised how well your V8 holds up in Roadster form! Also do try a DB11 Volante, the V8 revisions have made it a better drive!

Have a great time in Le Mans smile

bogie

16,432 posts

274 months

Sunday 19th May
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Grant3 said:
76k, brilliant, I love the way you really use your Astons bow

Be sure to test drive the V12V Roadster first you may be surprised how well your V8 holds up in Roadster form! Also do try a DB11 Volante, the V8 revisions have made it a better drive!

Have a great time in Le Mans smile
thanks Grant, sure will do thumbup