RE: McLaren launches world's most potent e-bike
Discussion
Perhaps worth noting that to count as a bicycle, an e-bike must have no more than 250W power, must only provide assistance while the rider is pedalling, and only at speeds of up to 15.5 mph.
Anything outside these parameters is legally a motorbike and needs a proper helmet, tax, insurance and MoT and must be kept to roads (not cycle paths).
At least, that's what the law says.
James6112 said:
Bikes made by car manufacturers.
Invariably inferior to those made by bike manufacturers.
Then sold at half price a while later in the sale.
There's history of car manufacturers punting bikes & they're nearly always terrible. Neither steam nor sail, you end up with an overpriced push iron that isn't a good bike, or a good brand extension. Some of the Porsche ones have been laughable & others have merely been restickered bikes from decent manufacturers with the price cranked 40%, yes Audi, I'm looking at you. Invariably inferior to those made by bike manufacturers.
Then sold at half price a while later in the sale.
Buy a car from a dealer & a bike from the bike shop & you'll be golden.
samoht said:
Perhaps worth noting that to count as a bicycle, an e-bike must have no more than 250W power, must only provide assistance while the rider is pedalling, and only at speeds of up to 15.5 mph.
Anything outside these parameters is legally a motorbike and needs a proper helmet, tax, insurance and MoT and must be kept to roads (not cycle paths).
At least, that's what the law says.
Yeah, but if you're going to point that out to the yooves barrelling down our pavements on the things, you're braver than me!Anything outside these parameters is legally a motorbike and needs a proper helmet, tax, insurance and MoT and must be kept to roads (not cycle paths).
At least, that's what the law says.
Lotobear said:
I can't really see the point myself, may as well get a Suron for a couple of grand.
We were having the discussion last night when out on our analogue MTB's, we are all what you might call old blokes but have no intention of going electric until we have to. In the meantime we decided that what might tempt us is a very lightweight electric MTB with only limited assistance just for those ball busting climbs you get on certain rides that you might otherwise have to push on (you know, the ones where it's a much effort to keep the front wheel on the deck as it is to pedal).
The bike would remain light enough to pedal unassisted all other climbs while still retaining good agility for gnarly descents.
Trek EXe will do that. You can dial the assist right down if you want to be a masochist…We were having the discussion last night when out on our analogue MTB's, we are all what you might call old blokes but have no intention of going electric until we have to. In the meantime we decided that what might tempt us is a very lightweight electric MTB with only limited assistance just for those ball busting climbs you get on certain rides that you might otherwise have to push on (you know, the ones where it's a much effort to keep the front wheel on the deck as it is to pedal).
The bike would remain light enough to pedal unassisted all other climbs while still retaining good agility for gnarly descents.
dunnoreally said:
samoht said:
Perhaps worth noting that to count as a bicycle, an e-bike must have no more than 250W power, must only provide assistance while the rider is pedalling, and only at speeds of up to 15.5 mph.
Anything outside these parameters is legally a motorbike and needs a proper helmet, tax, insurance and MoT and must be kept to roads (not cycle paths).
At least, that's what the law says.
Yeah, but if you're going to point that out to the yooves barrelling down our pavements on the things, you're braver than me!Anything outside these parameters is legally a motorbike and needs a proper helmet, tax, insurance and MoT and must be kept to roads (not cycle paths).
At least, that's what the law says.
Pughmacher said:
modeller said:
Spend your money on a proper MTB brand. 19kg / 450Wh battery and 450W boost. It's an absolute blast!
https://www.santacruzbicycles.com/en-GB/bikes/heck...
Mmmmmmm Santa Cruz lovely! Personally I’d go for a Yeti (not the Skoda). Enough MTB nonsense! I’ve got expensive hobbies already. Don’t need to rekindle an older one! https://www.santacruzbicycles.com/en-GB/bikes/heck...
Edited by modeller on Friday 17th May 12:01
Him and another mate also rode Yetis on that day and said they felt solid. Like they could take anything, but in the terrain we were in, were almost 'too much'.
MrBig said:
Great, lets hope the UK government get their fingers out of their arses and bring in some way to regulate and legalise such things so that we can buy the hot model without risking our driving licence.
The current law is a bit stupid. You can already exceed the arbitrary 15mph power assist limit with any ordinary, meat-powered road or mountain bicycle.The issue with the assist cutout is that on approaches to speed critical trail features - gaps - it makes the approach tricky to manage. On many bikes, there's no 'clutch' so the hard limit on the electric torque assist suddenly changes to you not only having to put pedal effort in to move the bicycle, but also to turn the 'dead' resistance of the motor. It feels horrible. There are a few, flat-ish trails with gaps where I will only use my analogue bike.
Lotobear said:
I can't really see the point myself, may as well get a Suron for a couple of grand.
We were having the discussion last night when out on our analogue MTB's, we are all what you might call old blokes but have no intention of going electric until we have to. In the meantime we decided that what might tempt us is a very lightweight electric MTB with only limited assistance just for those ball busting climbs you get on certain rides that you might otherwise have to push on (you know, the ones where it's a much effort to keep the front wheel on the deck as it is to pedal).
The bike would remain light enough to pedal unassisted all other climbs while still retaining good agility for gnarly descents.
We were having the discussion last night when out on our analogue MTB's, we are all what you might call old blokes but have no intention of going electric until we have to. In the meantime we decided that what might tempt us is a very lightweight electric MTB with only limited assistance just for those ball busting climbs you get on certain rides that you might otherwise have to push on (you know, the ones where it's a much effort to keep the front wheel on the deck as it is to pedal).
The bike would remain light enough to pedal unassisted all other climbs while still retaining good agility for gnarly descents.
Don't hold out, e bikes are amazing i bought a haibike lyke 11 only a couple of months back, you can go places / climbing routes that you couldn't do without the assist, and also go much further.
Nowhere near the most powerful, nor is this, but quite amusing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JtW3rhfCE8&pp...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JtW3rhfCE8&pp...
Gemaeden said:
Nowhere near the most powerful, nor is this, but quite amusing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JtW3rhfCE8&pp...
"Careful with the throttle!"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JtW3rhfCE8&pp...
I think it needed different gearing.
Anyway, perhaps the ultimate emtb:
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