Just got fined! What’s the point apart from money making?
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Simpo Two said:
And what has warranted that little piece of gratuitous unpleasantness? Or do you live in London and just hate visitors?
It's not intended to be unpleasant, it's literally the case that your disgust for London is equally matched by the disdain that the residents have for those who stubbornly commute/ride in and out of the city in the most selfish (and unnecessary) way possible.Surely if Khan was hated by everyone living there, he'd be kicked out years ago rather than voted in time after time.
to answer OP, the restriction is there to stop it being a rat run, its quite a popular road, especially with the local school. No cars/bikes, but it does allow for the local 300 bus to pass through either way. There's quite afew no entry sections around the residential roads surrounding east ham where cars can't go but busses can.
CheesecakeRunner said:
No ideas for a name said:
Its intention is just to stop a 'through route' for cars and motorbikes?
I don't know the area, but maybe they used to get heavy traffic bypassing the other routes.
This is the answer. The restriction is there to allow certain vehicles through but in general to prevent the road becoming a rat run with a level of traffic that it can’t cope with. I don't know the area, but maybe they used to get heavy traffic bypassing the other routes.
Simpo Two said:
I liken to a full size board game, played with real money. The player who can drive from one side to the other without getting fined is the winner.
Wild horses wouldn't drag me to London these days - and that of course is exactly what they want.
You might call it 'persecution by technology'.
I’ve been driving in London for over 30 years. As long as you pay attention to the rules/road signs, you won’t get fined. Isn’t that the case in any city in this country? Wild horses wouldn't drag me to London these days - and that of course is exactly what they want.
You might call it 'persecution by technology'.
Yes, you are correct but the massive rise in restrictions, at times complicated junctions makes it difficult.
I’ve recently had to go down to Tooting regularly, no choice but to drive due to needing to take tools etc, plus the fact it’ll take me half a day to get there on public transport. Haven’t driven in London for 15+ years.
Tooting was ok, but on occasion due to whatever reason the satnav took me over the river and via Wandsworth back onto the M4.
Turns out that route isn’t too bad, but the first time I did it I was concentrating on looking for signs way more than usual as I knew the chances of a fine for something or other were much higher - all that did was take away concentration from where it should have been.
I’ve recently had to go down to Tooting regularly, no choice but to drive due to needing to take tools etc, plus the fact it’ll take me half a day to get there on public transport. Haven’t driven in London for 15+ years.
Tooting was ok, but on occasion due to whatever reason the satnav took me over the river and via Wandsworth back onto the M4.
Turns out that route isn’t too bad, but the first time I did it I was concentrating on looking for signs way more than usual as I knew the chances of a fine for something or other were much higher - all that did was take away concentration from where it should have been.
dan98 said:
It's not intended to be unpleasant, it's literally the case that your disgust for London is equally matched by the disdain that the residents have for those who stubbornly commute/ride in and out of the city in the most selfish (and unnecessary) way possible.
Surely if Khan was hated by everyone living there, he'd be kicked out years ago rather than voted in time after time.
Ah OK, I see. Thanks for the explanation! Not disgust, just not a place I particularly want to go to any more. Last time I travelled in by paddle steamer under Tower Bridge and home by coach Surely if Khan was hated by everyone living there, he'd be kicked out years ago rather than voted in time after time.
I expect Khan gets voted in because the majority of London voters vote Labour. And probably don't drive...
I have to pop into a couple of boroughs for work, so far the worst thing I’ve come across are the metal width restrictions deliberately designed to cause damage if you get them even slightly wrong. I have a normal sized estate car and one the other day my tyres were touching either side as they were metal bell things.
Thank you all for your replies
At least you have explained the reasoning behind such signs and probably the reason these are around certain cities and London etc .
To stop rat runs and keep most traffic stuck on the main bigger roads .
Yes silly me for not reading the sign and either driving round another way or just getting off the bike and pushing it along the payment then rejoining 2 meters further up the rd .
At least you have explained the reasoning behind such signs and probably the reason these are around certain cities and London etc .
To stop rat runs and keep most traffic stuck on the main bigger roads .
Yes silly me for not reading the sign and either driving round another way or just getting off the bike and pushing it along the payment then rejoining 2 meters further up the rd .
valiant said:
Fermit said:
Yep, this is pretty much what I found out. Went to west London to collect a TV purchased. Did everything possible to stay out of the congestion zone. Returned home to receive a £90 fine for entering it. Khan, you can f
k right off if you think I'll be visiting your city any time in the nearer future.
Well you didn’t do everything possible as you missed the fk right off if you think I'll be visiting your city any time in the nearer future.king great ‘C’ on the road you entered as well as roadside signage indicating you’re entering the congestion charge zone. Petrolhead67 said:
Thank you all for your replies
At least you have explained the reasoning behind such signs and probably the reason these are around certain cities and London etc .
To stop rat runs and keep most traffic stuck on the main bigger roads .
Yes silly me for not reading the sign and either driving round another way or just getting off the bike and pushing it along the payment then rejoining 2 meters further up the rd .
No motor vehicles means no motor vehicles, whether pushed along pavement or not.At least you have explained the reasoning behind such signs and probably the reason these are around certain cities and London etc .
To stop rat runs and keep most traffic stuck on the main bigger roads .
Yes silly me for not reading the sign and either driving round another way or just getting off the bike and pushing it along the payment then rejoining 2 meters further up the rd .
Petrolhead67 said:
or just getting off the bike and pushing it along the payment then rejoining 2 meters further up the rd .
I suspect no motor vehicles means no motor vehicles. Driven or pushed, and certainly not pushed on the pavement when even a motorbike that's broken down should be pushed in the road. If it was a wide enough pavement and you had a Smart car, would you be allowed to push that along the pavement too? Ive got to drive to Kings Cross in a couple of weeks and already dreading it. London is not a nice city anymore, between the expensive transport, rampant crime and anti everything council it's not a good place to visit and not at all the place I used to live and love. The locals definitely have a touch of Stockholm Syndrome going on too.
cuprabob said:
If it was the PS Waverley you were lucky it didn't break down or hit something
It was great - from Ipswich via Clacton then straight up the Thames estuary. Though it took an hour to dock because there was something wrong with the dock, and the coaches got jammed in the ludicrously small bus station. Then a 3-hour ride home thanks to a curious detour over the Thames (I think the driver got in the wrong lane) and then roadworks everywhere. Glad to get home!Simpo Two said:
cuprabob said:
If it was the PS Waverley you were lucky it didn't break down or hit something
It was great - from Ipswich via Clacton then straight up the Thames estuary. Though it took an hour to dock because there was something wrong with the dock, and the coaches got jammed in the ludicrously small bus station. Then a 3-hour ride home thanks to a curious detour over the Thames (I think the driver got in the wrong lane) and then roadworks everywhere. Glad to get home!dan98 said:
Simpo Two said:
And what has warranted that little piece of gratuitous unpleasantness? Or do you live in London and just hate visitors?
It's not intended to be unpleasant, it's literally the case that your disgust for London is equally matched by the disdain that the residents have for those who stubbornly commute/ride in and out of the city in the most selfish (and unnecessary) way possible.Surely if Khan was hated by everyone living there, he'd be kicked out years ago rather than voted in time after time.
I imagine SK gets voted in as the most dense populous of voters is in central london, where hardly anyone drives, as opposed to outer London, that and all labour voters, plus the Muslim vote which must be a huge amount in London.
God knows how he got back in in reality - with soaring knife crime, ULEZ, and LTNs (which just shove the problme elsewhere).
I was up in London recently and noticed the roads are indeed quiter, BUT, the pavements are too. Picadilly felt almost abandoned in the evenings, as did Soho. So many less people out compared to when I lived there.
Griffith4ever said:
Seemed unpleasant to me.
I imagine SK gets voted in as the most dense populous of voters is in central london, where hardly anyone drives, as opposed to outer London, that and all labour voters, plus the Muslim vote which must be a huge amount in London.
God knows how he got back in in reality - with soaring knife crime, ULEZ, and LTNs (which just shove the problme elsewhere).
I was up in London recently and noticed the roads are indeed quiter, BUT, the pavements are too. Picadilly felt almost abandoned in the evenings, as did Soho. So many less people out compared to when I lived there.
I as say, it wasn't intended as unpleasant - just pointing out the irony of disliking a city so much to the point of refusing to drive there, while consequently making it that bit nicer for everyone who actually lives there.I imagine SK gets voted in as the most dense populous of voters is in central london, where hardly anyone drives, as opposed to outer London, that and all labour voters, plus the Muslim vote which must be a huge amount in London.
God knows how he got back in in reality - with soaring knife crime, ULEZ, and LTNs (which just shove the problme elsewhere).
I was up in London recently and noticed the roads are indeed quiter, BUT, the pavements are too. Picadilly felt almost abandoned in the evenings, as did Soho. So many less people out compared to when I lived there.
Reducing his winning vote down to all the 'Muslims' and Labour voters (and density of y'know...people) sounds a bit Daily Mail tbh. As does talk of 'soaring knife crime' which as far as can see just appears to be simply returning to pre-pandemic levels.
Indeed it sounds as if you don't spend much time there from your sudden observations of empty pavements, which is widely accepted to be a ripple effect of the pandemic rather than anything to do with ULEZ; in itself been reducing the traffic levels hugely for many years prior to 2020.
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