The **BOXING** thread (Vol 4)

The **BOXING** thread (Vol 4)

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vdn

8,955 posts

205 months

Sunday 19th May
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tuscaneer said:
Tears?? Do it again 10 times and usyk wins 10 times ...no emotion from me tiger ...just the way it is ...usyk is Fury's master and that's that.... I do hope they have a rematch although is rather see fury fight Joshua now . .
smokin

carlo996

6,034 posts

23 months

Sunday 19th May
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Sargeant Orange said:
I had Usyk by 1 so wouldn't have been surprised by a draw. The right result in the end
Same.

Fury had him rocked at one point but either didn’t see it or thought he’d take him.

The right result and I thought it bought the best out of both fighters.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,642 posts

152 months

Sunday 19th May
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Bluevanman said:
I didn't have Fury ahead at any point in the fight,how 1 judge could have him as the winner is proposterous
What!!! At the end of R7, I had Fury 69-64. Maybe 68-65 at a push. Great recovery from Usyk.

philv

3,991 posts

216 months

Sunday 19th May
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Fury was defenceless on the ropes when the ref stopped it.
He was an easy target with hands by his side pretty much gone, just there to be hit.
Head low and a very easy target.
It should have been stopped then and there.

Fury is very lucky he didn't suffer the indignity of a ko.

Unreal

3,635 posts

27 months

Sunday 19th May
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That was satisfying.

I gave Fury four rounds.

The fight should have been stopped.

I've always said Usyk was a class act, inside and out of the ring. Very happy for him and his country today.

vdn

8,955 posts

205 months

Sunday 19th May
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Bluevanman said:
I didn't have Fury ahead at any point in the fight,how 1 judge could have him as the winner is proposterous
What!!! At the end of R7, I had Fury 69-64. Maybe 68-65 at a push. Great recovery from Usyk.
Indeed. Anyone that knows boxing / and isn't looking at the big moments in isolation, knows that Usyk won... but that it was close and Fury was ahead at stages.

carlo996

6,034 posts

23 months

Sunday 19th May
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tuscaneer said:
The right man won and it wasn't close .
What fight were you watching rofl

jazzybees

878 posts

124 months

Sunday 19th May
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fridaypassion said:
vdn said:
Lol. Even the commentators / and online hacks - most of which can't stand Fury are saying how close it was and how it wasn't 'clear'.

But hey, maybe you're smoking something. Leave you to it smile
Literally all of the commentators and the audience scorecard had a Usyk win. It was decisive and convincing. The right man definitely won I would say by at least the rounds plus a knockdown. If Fury was south American and the flight was in Brazil it might have been close.
Although saying all of that.
If that last referee had scored it 114 - 114 instead of 114-113. It would have been a draw.

fridaypassion

8,682 posts

230 months

Sunday 19th May
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carlo996 said:
What fight were you watching rofl
Definitely tuned into the one I saw that one where Fury came within one punch of being knocked out!

tuscaneer

7,824 posts

227 months

Sunday 19th May
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Bluevanman said:
I didn't have Fury ahead at any point in the fight,how 1 judge could have him as the winner is proposterous
What!!! At the end of R7, I had Fury 69-64. Maybe 68-65 at a push. Great recovery from Usyk.
100 percent

MrBogSmith

2,182 posts

36 months

Sunday 19th May
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As a casual I thought it was a close fight.

Always surprises me how three professional boxing judges watching the same fight can be quite far one another come the end.

vdn

8,955 posts

205 months

Sunday 19th May
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fridaypassion said:
Definitely tuned into the one I saw that one where Fury came within one punch of being knocked out!
Again... that shows a lack of knowledge ... because that isn't how it's scored. It's not one off moments in isolation. That was my point earlier in the thread. Again, the right man won: no debate. But if you look at that moment in isolation, then Usyk looks like he ran away with it. That's not boxing though!

TwigtheWonderkid

43,642 posts

152 months

Sunday 19th May
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MrBogSmith said:
As a casual I thought it was a close fight.

Always surprises me how three professional boxing judges watching the same fight can be quite far one another come the end.
If 4 rounds are very close, it's very possible for one judge to think boxer A just shaded them all, the 2nd judge give 2 rounds to boxer A and 2 to boxer B, and the 3rd judge to think boxer B shaded them all. So in a close fight, you can easily get a big disparity.


TwigtheWonderkid

43,642 posts

152 months

Sunday 19th May
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fridaypassion said:
carlo996 said:
What fight were you watching rofl
Definitely tuned into the one I saw that one where Fury came within one punch of being knocked out!
And?? A boxer can be one punch from being knocked out, and win the other 11 rounds. That was a close fight tonight. I think Usyk won, but not by much.

fridaypassion

8,682 posts

230 months

Sunday 19th May
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vdn said:
Again... that shows a lack of knowledge ... because that isn't how it's scored. It's not one off moments in isolation. That was my point earlier in the thread. Again, the right man won: no debate. But if you look at that moment in isolation, then Usyk looks like he ran away with it. That's not boxing though!
I do kind of know how it works as does Tuscaneer. In fact I know about 1% of what he knows.

Usyk was the aggressor for most of the fight and had more eye-catching point scoring punches than Fury. The 9th round was an icing on the cake it would have been close without that round for sure but that 10/8 was enough to swing it.


biggbn

23,723 posts

222 months

Sunday 19th May
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vdn said:
Chamon_Lee said:
The rounds were quite clear. Not sure what you’ve been watching. Maybe go back and watch it again with non bias.
What bias? The poster right above you said it was close also. The general consensus is that it was very close... so maybe your bias is clouding your judgement...

I think Usyk winning is great and well deserved.
Woodhall had it a draw. No bias there.

vdn

8,955 posts

205 months

Sunday 19th May
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That 10 / 8 def' swung it. Agreed.

If the ref had let that barrage continue, Fury would have been officially KO'd also.

As I say, though, there were rounds where Fury looked better. And there were a couple where it was close enough to go either way. It's why I said early in the fight, it might come down to one point...

The rematch will be interesting. To see what adjustments are made by both camps.

dickymint

24,546 posts

260 months

Sunday 19th May
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Chamon_Lee said:
Too many voices in fury’s corner.
Most definitely and not helpful. I found myself shouting "shut the fk up" !!

Chamon_Lee

3,820 posts

149 months

Sunday 19th May
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vdn said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Bluevanman said:
I didn't have Fury ahead at any point in the fight,how 1 judge could have him as the winner is proposterous
What!!! At the end of R7, I had Fury 69-64. Maybe 68-65 at a push. Great recovery from Usyk.
Indeed. Anyone that knows boxing / and isn't looking at the big moments in isolation, knows that Usyk won... but that it was close and Fury was ahead at stages.
Ah the “if you know boxing” line
Give it a rest

MrBogSmith

2,182 posts

36 months

Sunday 19th May
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I wonder with Fury’s well documented mental health struggles whether this will tilt him the wrong way. He’s expressed how it’s boxing that keeps him on the rails.

I hope it doesn’t cause him to spiral.

TwigtheWonderkid said:
MrBogSmith said:
As a casual I thought it was a close fight.

Always surprises me how three professional boxing judges watching the same fight can be quite far one another come the end.
If 4 rounds are very close, it's very possible for one judge to think boxer A just shaded them all, the 2nd judge give 2 rounds to boxer A and 2 to boxer B, and the 3rd judge to think boxer B shaded them all. So in a close fight, you can easily get a big disparity.
Thanks that makes sense.

It’s a very imperfect system compared to most sports.