RE: Behold the limited edition Ineos Grenadier 1924
Discussion
ducnick said:
Cups Renault said:
Ah the Frankenstein box, built on Jim's imagination of the sunlit Brexit could mean but then scrapped on account of it being all bs and built back in the EU where the twonk non domiciles himself; when not trying to mug the government off into getting the tax payer to build him a stadium for the club he definitely always supported, when he wasn't a season ticket holder at another club
The box on wheels has such a post Brexit whiff to it you'd have to be labelled naive (and blind) to drive such a thing built by someone doing so well at being hateful
Couldn’t have put it better myself. It’s a shame really because if you purely consider it as a rugged work vehicle with a good powertrain built in a well respected European plant, then it’s quite an appealing utility vehicle. Conversely if Jim had made good on his political beliefs and built it in the U.K. using British factories, British workers, and paying tax in the U.K., you could argue that it was at least an honest manifestation of a man’s beliefs and could appeal to brexiteers. As it turned out, this car doesn’t appeal to anyone in the U.K. no matter which side of the Brexit divide you were on. Maybe it finds appeal in other markets.The box on wheels has such a post Brexit whiff to it you'd have to be labelled naive (and blind) to drive such a thing built by someone doing so well at being hateful
DonkeyApple said:
LooneyTunes said:
Are you really surprised? The market for these isn’t huge, with (I suspect) many of those current JLR target customers being unwilling to have the hassle associated with there being no real dealer network (where I live the nearest is literally the opposite side of the county). And of course most Land Rover die-hards seem to want nothing to do with the Grenadier. It was always going to be a tough sell…
I also suspect they've just priced themselves out of the largest group of folk happy to dump some cash into a toy. I imagine there are still as many folks today as a decade ago who'd plonk something like this on their drive for a bit of fun but the amount being asked knocks that on the head. Struggling to think of a family I know who don’t have a 4x4. Some have multiple, the farming / landed lot seem split between Japanese pickups, old Defenders, and FFRRs, school run seems to be anything JLR, Merc, or Audi. A few Kias.
The majority are choosing what, for them, is the safe option.
I only know one guy who owns a Grenadier. To put it diplomatically, he’s a bit of a character.
Really don’t see them continuing to push in the Uk if sales are as bad as posted in this thread.
kiness" with a tie up special edition with a clothing brand... 
KTF said:
Limited Edition. Always the sign of something thats welling well.
What next, balloons on the wing mirrors of the used ones or perhaps a 'managers special' event to get punters through the door...
Haha, yep, back to the days of the Dealer Special Edition. A few pinstripes, plastic wheel trims and one of those squidgy black rubbery spoilers they used to sell in the Carnoisseur Catalogue and the job's a good 'un What next, balloons on the wing mirrors of the used ones or perhaps a 'managers special' event to get punters through the door...
Lester H said:
Rusty Old-Banger said:
Looking more and more like a Mahindra Bolero every day.
Got me there! I had to look that one up. They’re as cheap as chips and it seems that they do a few variants. I wonder if four of us should meet in a ( suitably expensive) pub and discuss importing them.Angelo1985 said:
I was expecting at least a bespoke belstaff jacket to come with the car. Although with the price of the car they could give 5 jackets and still make some profit. Stingy
That's a huge leap of faith that they are remotely close to making a profit. They must be hemorrhaging money that no amount of Belstaff logos will come close to solving.Well it was bound to happen with Sir Jim Ratcliffe owning both Ineos & Belstaff , as a Leeds fan hope he doesn't do another Colibratiion with his 25% ownership of Man United, the special edition Old Trafford.
. For their fans though will Belstaff get involved with Man United's leisure ware or kits, from next season CP company are doing City's European 3rd kit etc.
. For their fans though will Belstaff get involved with Man United's leisure ware or kits, from next season CP company are doing City's European 3rd kit etc.
Wren-went said:
Well it was bound to happen with Sir Jim Ratcliffe owning both Ineos & Belstaff , as a Leeds fan hope he doesn't do another Colibratiion with his 25% ownership of Man United, the special edition Old Trafford.
. For their fans though will Belstaff get involved with Man United's leisure ware or kits, from next season CP company are doing City's European 3rd kit etc.
I think the football club side is more about the purchasing of friends. He runs a highly polluting business comprised mainly of the divested assets of firms who couldn't green wash them and he stands next to no chance of meeting net zero targets so is paying money to procure an army of friends who will be used to promote and back his messaging. From cyclists, F1 and football fans he is purchasing what he can never obtain for free, supporters. They will eventually be used to do his bidding. . For their fans though will Belstaff get involved with Man United's leisure ware or kits, from next season CP company are doing City's European 3rd kit etc.
Belstaff is a weird one. Considering the brand's links to a huge array of historical figures of significance as well as paying a wide selection of 'off ov' folk to wear them the business has remained stubbornly loss making which I assume has some U.K. tax benefit. The quality of the products is actually pretty good especially in comparison to so many historic clothing brands where the quality has long since been hurled in the bin as it's no longer needed as the modern customer base shops by numbers and logos and has no desire or ability to spot quality.
The Grenadier also appears to be a thing of solidity and built to last but that does tend to put it into a price bracket where to achieve volume you need to attract a large chunk of consumers who simply don't care about substance but demand top end veneer. I guess the Belstaff is aimed more at the urban market which is always going to be the largest and most important market for a road going 4x4 such as this.
BrownEaredDog said:
Lester H said:
Rusty Old-Banger said:
Looking more and more like a Mahindra Bolero every day.
Got me there! I had to look that one up. They’re as cheap as chips and it seems that they do a few variants. I wonder if four of us should meet in a ( suitably expensive) pub and discuss importing them.
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