CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 19)
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A chat through of the current situation regarding blood transfusions and mRNA products, with reference to a scientific paper awaiting peer review:
https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202403.0881/v...
Concerns regarding Transfusions of Blood Products Derived from Genetic Vaccine Recipients and Proposals for Specific Measures
https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202403.0881/v...
Concerns regarding Transfusions of Blood Products Derived from Genetic Vaccine Recipients and Proposals for Specific Measures
Paper said:
Abstract
The coronavirus pandemic was declared by the World Health Organization (WHO) in 2020, and a global genetic vaccination program has been rapidly implemented as a fundamental solution. However, many countries around the world have reported that so-called genetic vaccines, such as those using modified mRNA encoding the spike protein and lipid nanoparticles as the drug delivery system, have resulted in post-vaccination thrombosis and subsequent cardiovascular damage, as well as a wide variety of diseases involving all organs and systems, including the nervous system. In this article, based on these circumstances and the volume of evidence that has recently come to light, we call the attention of medical professionals to the various risks associated with blood transfusions using blood products derived from people who have suffered from long COVID and from genetic vaccine recipients, including those who have received mRNA vaccines, and we make proposals regarding specific tests, testing methods, and regulations to deal with these risks. We expect that this proposal will serve as a basis for discussion on how to address post-vaccination syndrome and its consequences following these genetic vaccination programs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPJfXh-Kx2cThe coronavirus pandemic was declared by the World Health Organization (WHO) in 2020, and a global genetic vaccination program has been rapidly implemented as a fundamental solution. However, many countries around the world have reported that so-called genetic vaccines, such as those using modified mRNA encoding the spike protein and lipid nanoparticles as the drug delivery system, have resulted in post-vaccination thrombosis and subsequent cardiovascular damage, as well as a wide variety of diseases involving all organs and systems, including the nervous system. In this article, based on these circumstances and the volume of evidence that has recently come to light, we call the attention of medical professionals to the various risks associated with blood transfusions using blood products derived from people who have suffered from long COVID and from genetic vaccine recipients, including those who have received mRNA vaccines, and we make proposals regarding specific tests, testing methods, and regulations to deal with these risks. We expect that this proposal will serve as a basis for discussion on how to address post-vaccination syndrome and its consequences following these genetic vaccination programs.
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Jimmy Dore discusses a video seemingly showing a WEF Young Global Leaders training session.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuayF752dMM
Jimmy Dore discusses a video seemingly showing a WEF Young Global Leaders training session.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuayF752dMM
r3g said:
Good video from JC on the vaxx damage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boqKzpftNSI
I'll say it again, give it a couple more years and the vaxx damage deniers (just like the mask deniers and the heart attack/myo/peri deniers) will be openly talking about their vaxx damage and that of friends and family like it was well-known and never in doubt. I've noticed a shift in the narrative from several of the pot-stirrers from the other thread where 6 months ago they were firmly in the "unthinkable" camp but are in the process of moving through the "radical" camp to the "accepting" camp as more and more anecdotal evidence comes under the spotlight.
Sounds like a fulfilling way to spend one's time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boqKzpftNSI
I'll say it again, give it a couple more years and the vaxx damage deniers (just like the mask deniers and the heart attack/myo/peri deniers) will be openly talking about their vaxx damage and that of friends and family like it was well-known and never in doubt. I've noticed a shift in the narrative from several of the pot-stirrers from the other thread where 6 months ago they were firmly in the "unthinkable" camp but are in the process of moving through the "radical" camp to the "accepting" camp as more and more anecdotal evidence comes under the spotlight.
r3g said:
“All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
~ Arthur Schopenhauer (19th century German philosopher)
Are you referring to the apparent truths that you share? ~ Arthur Schopenhauer (19th century German philosopher)
Will you take the same approach with truths from the opposing side or is that just people drinking the lool aid?
Further inadmissible anecdote, correlation is not causation, you must be the unluckiest man alive, yadda yadda shabbalat.
Family friend, 85, in amazing health for her age. Walks into town every day for messages three miles each way come rain or shine, a hardy old girl. Fully up to date with the jab programme as considered vulnerable. Had her latest booster (so 2 jabs plus 4 boosters at this point) last Thursday. Later that same evening developed intense pains in her legs, to the point now where she can barely stand let alone walk... "I wish I'd never had that last one". Really hoping for her sake that it's only a temporary symptom, but it's not showing any signs of clearing yet.
People will continue to be injured by these jabs so long as the media ignore vaccine harms, government and medical profession parrot the "safe and effective" narrative, and proper debate is stifled and silenced.
Family friend, 85, in amazing health for her age. Walks into town every day for messages three miles each way come rain or shine, a hardy old girl. Fully up to date with the jab programme as considered vulnerable. Had her latest booster (so 2 jabs plus 4 boosters at this point) last Thursday. Later that same evening developed intense pains in her legs, to the point now where she can barely stand let alone walk... "I wish I'd never had that last one". Really hoping for her sake that it's only a temporary symptom, but it's not showing any signs of clearing yet.
People will continue to be injured by these jabs so long as the media ignore vaccine harms, government and medical profession parrot the "safe and effective" narrative, and proper debate is stifled and silenced.
No mention of this on the BBC
https://www.newsflare.com/video/539041/covid-vacci...
This is was Jan 2023! You can’t find a sniff of it (I only just heard of it last week from a comment on a podcast and went searching). Anything like this is totally hidden from most people’s view of the world, so reality via the media becomes a total fabrication. This is what I mean about not believing anything you’re fed, it paints a very distorted picture of what real life is like.
https://www.newsflare.com/video/539041/covid-vacci...
This is was Jan 2023! You can’t find a sniff of it (I only just heard of it last week from a comment on a podcast and went searching). Anything like this is totally hidden from most people’s view of the world, so reality via the media becomes a total fabrication. This is what I mean about not believing anything you’re fed, it paints a very distorted picture of what real life is like.
jameswills said:
No mention of this on the BBC
https://www.newsflare.com/video/539041/covid-vacci...
This is was Jan 2023! You can’t find a sniff of it (I only just heard of it last week from a comment on a podcast and went searching). Anything like this is totally hidden from most people’s view of the world, so reality via the media becomes a total fabrication. This is what I mean about not believing anything you’re fed, it paints a very distorted picture of what real life is like.
Why didn't they upload it to other sites rather than just one random host?https://www.newsflare.com/video/539041/covid-vacci...
This is was Jan 2023! You can’t find a sniff of it (I only just heard of it last week from a comment on a podcast and went searching). Anything like this is totally hidden from most people’s view of the world, so reality via the media becomes a total fabrication. This is what I mean about not believing anything you’re fed, it paints a very distorted picture of what real life is like.
You know, get the word out.
119 said:
Why didn't they upload it to other sites rather than just one random host?
You know, get the word out.
You wouldn’t be allowed on YouTube, Twitter (X) or Facebook. It would be taken down, like the others are (I’ve saved loads over the past of good interviews and no longer exist). You know, get the word out.
Else you’re saying it didn’t happen because it’s on “some random” site only? You’re only proving my previous point in both instances.
jameswills said:
119 said:
Why didn't they upload it to other sites rather than just one random host?
You know, get the word out.
You wouldn’t be allowed on YouTube, Twitter (X) or Facebook. It would be taken down, like the others are (I’ve saved loads over the past of good interviews and no longer exist). You know, get the word out.
Else you’re saying it didn’t happen because it’s on “some random” site only? You’re only proving my previous point in both instances.
jameswills said:
119 said:
Why didn't they upload it to other sites rather than just one random host?
You know, get the word out.
You wouldn’t be allowed on YouTube, Twitter (X) or Facebook. It would be taken down, like the others are (I’ve saved loads over the past of good interviews and no longer exist). You know, get the word out.
Else you’re saying it didn’t happen because it’s on “some random” site only? You’re only proving my previous point in both instances.
Looks like 'they' need to be better at controlling the media
.Some interesting earlier discussions on Covid deaths in the UK, but with little discussion over deaths 'OF' and deaths 'WITH'.
Some helpful chap submitted a Freedom Of Information request to the ONS in a bid to find out how many people died OF Covid in 2020 and 2021, and the results were a bit surprising. The number of deaths where only Covid was mentioned on the Death Cert were: 6,183.
23 in the under 30 cohort.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgove...
Some helpful chap submitted a Freedom Of Information request to the ONS in a bid to find out how many people died OF Covid in 2020 and 2021, and the results were a bit surprising. The number of deaths where only Covid was mentioned on the Death Cert were: 6,183.
23 in the under 30 cohort.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgove...
Next, we've had some discussion around whether the Vaccines actually worked. Well, if you want to follow someone who is eminently qualified, AND has crunched the number to death, then it's this guy who has worked tirelessly over the past few years.
He is also very clear, the vaccines did next to Sweet FA!
Here's his credentials first, for those who'll call him a swivel eyed loon:
"I’m a former NHS head of department for clinical audit with specialism in assessment of clinical outcomes for cardiac surgery, cardiology and cardiac anaesthesia at a busy teaching hospital. Before this I headed a statistical modelling section as a PSO/G7 UK government scientist working on a wide variety of projects.
My interest in COVID kicked-off back in April 2020 when debate centred around estimation of case fatality rates and since then I have spent upwards of 7,000 hours analysing various COVID-related datasets. These days I publish exclusively on Substack, with my output standing at +300 articles to date."
In order to read his analysis you'll have to subscribe to his Substack, but if you are REALLY interested then that'll be a very small price worth paying.
A full list of his archive is here, and is why many folks don't see conspiracy, they see lies, mistruths, obfuscation and downright dirty f
king dealing!
https://jdee.substack.com/archive?sort=top
He is also very clear, the vaccines did next to Sweet FA!
Here's his credentials first, for those who'll call him a swivel eyed loon:
"I’m a former NHS head of department for clinical audit with specialism in assessment of clinical outcomes for cardiac surgery, cardiology and cardiac anaesthesia at a busy teaching hospital. Before this I headed a statistical modelling section as a PSO/G7 UK government scientist working on a wide variety of projects.
My interest in COVID kicked-off back in April 2020 when debate centred around estimation of case fatality rates and since then I have spent upwards of 7,000 hours analysing various COVID-related datasets. These days I publish exclusively on Substack, with my output standing at +300 articles to date."
In order to read his analysis you'll have to subscribe to his Substack, but if you are REALLY interested then that'll be a very small price worth paying.
A full list of his archive is here, and is why many folks don't see conspiracy, they see lies, mistruths, obfuscation and downright dirty f
king dealing!https://jdee.substack.com/archive?sort=top
jshell said:
Some interesting earlier discussions on Covid deaths in the UK, but with little discussion over deaths 'OF' and deaths 'WITH'.
Some helpful chap submitted a Freedom Of Information request to the ONS in a bid to find out how many people died OF Covid in 2020 and 2021, and the results were a bit surprising. The number of deaths where only Covid was mentioned on the Death Cert were: 6,183.
23 in the under 30 cohort.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgove...
If that's what he wanted to find out, why did he ask a completely different question?Some helpful chap submitted a Freedom Of Information request to the ONS in a bid to find out how many people died OF Covid in 2020 and 2021, and the results were a bit surprising. The number of deaths where only Covid was mentioned on the Death Cert were: 6,183.
23 in the under 30 cohort.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgove...
For the above Substack there are Discussions that can be accessed without subscribing, one of which you may like to read is this one showing A&E admissions for respiratory illness that had a massive peak in Dec 2019, dropped massively during the Covid 'peak' until rising again mid/late 2020!
https://jdee.substack.com/p/emergency-department-a...
https://jdee.substack.com/p/emergency-department-a...
jshell said:
Next, we've had some discussion around whether the Vaccines actually worked. Well, if you want to follow someone who is eminently qualified, AND has crunched the number to death, then it's this guy who has worked tirelessly over the past few years.
He is also very clear, the vaccines did next to Sweet FA!
Here's his credentials first, for those who'll call him a swivel eyed loon:
"I’m a former NHS head of department for clinical audit with specialism in assessment of clinical outcomes for cardiac surgery, cardiology and cardiac anaesthesia at a busy teaching hospital. Before this I headed a statistical modelling section as a PSO/G7 UK government scientist working on a wide variety of projects.
My interest in COVID kicked-off back in April 2020 when debate centred around estimation of case fatality rates and since then I have spent upwards of 7,000 hours analysing various COVID-related datasets. These days I publish exclusively on Substack, with my output standing at +300 articles to date."
In order to read his analysis you'll have to subscribe to his Substack, but if you are REALLY interested then that'll be a very small price worth paying.
A full list of his archive is here, and is why many folks don't see conspiracy, they see lies, mistruths, obfuscation and downright dirty fking dealing!
https://jdee.substack.com/archive?sort=top
Pay to subscribe? There's a surprise.He is also very clear, the vaccines did next to Sweet FA!
Here's his credentials first, for those who'll call him a swivel eyed loon:
"I’m a former NHS head of department for clinical audit with specialism in assessment of clinical outcomes for cardiac surgery, cardiology and cardiac anaesthesia at a busy teaching hospital. Before this I headed a statistical modelling section as a PSO/G7 UK government scientist working on a wide variety of projects.
My interest in COVID kicked-off back in April 2020 when debate centred around estimation of case fatality rates and since then I have spent upwards of 7,000 hours analysing various COVID-related datasets. These days I publish exclusively on Substack, with my output standing at +300 articles to date."
In order to read his analysis you'll have to subscribe to his Substack, but if you are REALLY interested then that'll be a very small price worth paying.
A full list of his archive is here, and is why many folks don't see conspiracy, they see lies, mistruths, obfuscation and downright dirty f
king dealing!https://jdee.substack.com/archive?sort=top
r3g said:
Good video from JC on the vaxx damage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boqKzpftNSI
I'll say it again, give it a couple more years and the vaxx damage deniers (just like the mask deniers and the heart attack/myo/peri deniers) will be openly talking about their vaxx damage and that of friends and family like it was well-known and never in doubt. I've noticed a shift in the narrative from several of the pot-stirrers from the other thread where 6 months ago they were firmly in the "unthinkable" camp but are in the process of moving through the "radical" camp to the "accepting" camp as more and more anecdotal evidence comes under the spotlight.
He is spot on in that video, highlighting the way the vaccine injured are being ignored by the MSM. I presented all my symptom information to my GP at the beginning of April, I am due to see him again at the end of May. I tried to logon to the Yellow Card reporting system last week and it wouldn't let me. Through various groups of vaccine injured, I know that I am not the only one unable to logon or update my symptoms.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boqKzpftNSI
I'll say it again, give it a couple more years and the vaxx damage deniers (just like the mask deniers and the heart attack/myo/peri deniers) will be openly talking about their vaxx damage and that of friends and family like it was well-known and never in doubt. I've noticed a shift in the narrative from several of the pot-stirrers from the other thread where 6 months ago they were firmly in the "unthinkable" camp but are in the process of moving through the "radical" camp to the "accepting" camp as more and more anecdotal evidence comes under the spotlight.
Rollin said:
jshell said:
Next, we've had some discussion around whether the Vaccines actually worked. Well, if you want to follow someone who is eminently qualified, AND has crunched the number to death, then it's this guy who has worked tirelessly over the past few years.
He is also very clear, the vaccines did next to Sweet FA!
Here's his credentials first, for those who'll call him a swivel eyed loon:
"I’m a former NHS head of department for clinical audit with specialism in assessment of clinical outcomes for cardiac surgery, cardiology and cardiac anaesthesia at a busy teaching hospital. Before this I headed a statistical modelling section as a PSO/G7 UK government scientist working on a wide variety of projects.
My interest in COVID kicked-off back in April 2020 when debate centred around estimation of case fatality rates and since then I have spent upwards of 7,000 hours analysing various COVID-related datasets. These days I publish exclusively on Substack, with my output standing at +300 articles to date."
In order to read his analysis you'll have to subscribe to his Substack, but if you are REALLY interested then that'll be a very small price worth paying.
A full list of his archive is here, and is why many folks don't see conspiracy, they see lies, mistruths, obfuscation and downright dirty fking dealing!
https://jdee.substack.com/archive?sort=top
Pay to subscribe? There's a surprise.He is also very clear, the vaccines did next to Sweet FA!
Here's his credentials first, for those who'll call him a swivel eyed loon:
"I’m a former NHS head of department for clinical audit with specialism in assessment of clinical outcomes for cardiac surgery, cardiology and cardiac anaesthesia at a busy teaching hospital. Before this I headed a statistical modelling section as a PSO/G7 UK government scientist working on a wide variety of projects.
My interest in COVID kicked-off back in April 2020 when debate centred around estimation of case fatality rates and since then I have spent upwards of 7,000 hours analysing various COVID-related datasets. These days I publish exclusively on Substack, with my output standing at +300 articles to date."
In order to read his analysis you'll have to subscribe to his Substack, but if you are REALLY interested then that'll be a very small price worth paying.
A full list of his archive is here, and is why many folks don't see conspiracy, they see lies, mistruths, obfuscation and downright dirty f
king dealing!https://jdee.substack.com/archive?sort=top
Ex-CNN reporter and vaccine zealot Chris Cuomo now talking about injuries:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KKo6m6NmZeM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KKo6m6NmZeM
r3g said:
Rollin said:
jshell said:
Next, we've had some discussion around whether the Vaccines actually worked. Well, if you want to follow someone who is eminently qualified, AND has crunched the number to death, then it's this guy who has worked tirelessly over the past few years.
He is also very clear, the vaccines did next to Sweet FA!
Here's his credentials first, for those who'll call him a swivel eyed loon:
"I’m a former NHS head of department for clinical audit with specialism in assessment of clinical outcomes for cardiac surgery, cardiology and cardiac anaesthesia at a busy teaching hospital. Before this I headed a statistical modelling section as a PSO/G7 UK government scientist working on a wide variety of projects.
My interest in COVID kicked-off back in April 2020 when debate centred around estimation of case fatality rates and since then I have spent upwards of 7,000 hours analysing various COVID-related datasets. These days I publish exclusively on Substack, with my output standing at +300 articles to date."
In order to read his analysis you'll have to subscribe to his Substack, but if you are REALLY interested then that'll be a very small price worth paying.
A full list of his archive is here, and is why many folks don't see conspiracy, they see lies, mistruths, obfuscation and downright dirty fking dealing!
https://jdee.substack.com/archive?sort=top
Pay to subscribe? There's a surprise.He is also very clear, the vaccines did next to Sweet FA!
Here's his credentials first, for those who'll call him a swivel eyed loon:
"I’m a former NHS head of department for clinical audit with specialism in assessment of clinical outcomes for cardiac surgery, cardiology and cardiac anaesthesia at a busy teaching hospital. Before this I headed a statistical modelling section as a PSO/G7 UK government scientist working on a wide variety of projects.
My interest in COVID kicked-off back in April 2020 when debate centred around estimation of case fatality rates and since then I have spent upwards of 7,000 hours analysing various COVID-related datasets. These days I publish exclusively on Substack, with my output standing at +300 articles to date."
In order to read his analysis you'll have to subscribe to his Substack, but if you are REALLY interested then that'll be a very small price worth paying.
A full list of his archive is here, and is why many folks don't see conspiracy, they see lies, mistruths, obfuscation and downright dirty f
king dealing!https://jdee.substack.com/archive?sort=top
I find it fascinating that there are those 'instant responders' that will challenge even the in-depth statistical analysis by someone actually qualified to look at this stuff. Well, I say 'challenge', what I mean is: 'release the squirrels!'
Their amateur efforts just amplify the message.
jshell said:
Isn't it funny how he pops up within seconds of any substantial post that challenges the Covid/vaccine narrative, then tries to divert away from the core issues of those posts?
I find it fascinating that there are those 'instant responders' that will challenge even the in-depth statistical analysis by someone actually qualified to look at this stuff. Well, I say 'challenge', what I mean is: 'release the squirrels!'
Their amateur efforts just amplify the message.
Ah [T]Rollin is harmless enough, his mendacious little one liners are such obvious bait posts for attention, it's almost charming. I find it fascinating that there are those 'instant responders' that will challenge even the in-depth statistical analysis by someone actually qualified to look at this stuff. Well, I say 'challenge', what I mean is: 'release the squirrels!'
Their amateur efforts just amplify the message.
Give the boy a cookie and ruffle his hair. Poor simple lad. He can go back and tell the others how clever and brave he's been.
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