Israel invaded

[Oliver Hardy]

I thought the Israelis killed every journalist they come across, so I am surprised there is a news station to shut down!

[Biker 1]

Electro1980 said:

Al Jazeera is generally considered reliable and reasonably unbiased. Not as good as CNN, AP or the BBC, but absolutely not in the same category as Fox or RT.

Hmmmm.... Not convinced. Try Reuters & Al Monitor: https://www.al-monitor.com/
The War Zone is quite interesting: https://www.twz.com/

[mko9]

JJJ. said:

mko9 said:

JJJ. said:

As we all know, the international press has not been allowed into Gaza since Oct7 by Israel.

This is only partly true. International press can go into Gaza when escorted by the IDF. So technically, your statement is untrue. But they have not been allowed in on their own to roam freely.

Your clutching at straws again! Seriously what a pathetic reply.

Seriously, you are acusing me of clutching at straws when you are talking about the grand plan to build a replacent to the Suez Canal through Gaza??

Is anything I said in that reply incorrect? Because your statement of fact was incorrect.

Edited by mko9 on Monday 6th May 20:57

[Derek Smith]

HAMAS has accepted the ceasefire terms put forward by Egypt and Qatar. If they include the release of hostages, from both sides, Netanyahu will have difficulty refusing.

[Vanden Saab]

Derek Smith said:

HAMAS has accepted the ceasefire terms put forward by Egypt and Qatar. If they include the release of hostages, from both sides, Netanyahu will have difficulty refusing.

The Israelis do not have any hostages to release.

[Derek Smith]

Vanden Saab said:

Derek Smith said:

HAMAS has accepted the ceasefire terms put forward by Egypt and Qatar. If they include the release of hostages, from both sides, Netanyahu will have difficulty refusing.

The Israelis do not have any hostages to release.

Have they released them all? Even the doctors?

[z4RRSchris]

i’d count 2000 people held without trial, or even told why they are held as hostages.

[s1962a]

Derek Smith said:

Vanden Saab said:

Derek Smith said:

HAMAS has accepted the ceasefire terms put forward by Egypt and Qatar. If they include the release of hostages, from both sides, Netanyahu will have difficulty refusing.

The Israelis do not have any hostages to release.

Have they released them all? Even the doctors?

They are dying in custody

[Vanden Saab]

s1962a said:

Derek Smith said:

Vanden Saab said:

Derek Smith said:

HAMAS has accepted the ceasefire terms put forward by Egypt and Qatar. If they include the release of hostages, from both sides, Netanyahu will have difficulty refusing.

The Israelis do not have any hostages to release.

Have they released them all? Even the doctors?

They are dying in custody

Hostage
Meaning
someone who is taken as a prisoner by an enemy in order to force the other people involved to do what the enemy wants:

At least understand the meaning of the words you are bandying around.

[JJJ.]

Vanden Saab said:

s1962a said:

Derek Smith said:

Vanden Saab said:

Derek Smith said:

HAMAS has accepted the ceasefire terms put forward by Egypt and Qatar. If they include the release of hostages, from both sides, Netanyahu will have difficulty refusing.

The Israelis do not have any hostages to release.

Have they released them all? Even the doctors?

They are dying in custody

Hostage
Meaning
someone who is taken as a prisoner by an enemy in order to force the other people involved to do what the enemy wants:

At least understand the meaning of the words you are bandying around.

Word games! Scraping the barrel, typical of pro Israeli's and Zionists as they can't offer anything else in Israel's defence.

There's 3000 uncharged Palestinian prisoners in the West Bank. They could be easily considered hostages! And that's not including over 5000 that have been.

[Scrimpton]

Derek Smith said:

HAMAS has accepted the ceasefire terms put forward by Egypt and Qatar. If they include the release of hostages, from both sides, Netanyahu will have difficulty refusing.

Hamas had no problem and received no criticism for refusing previous ceasefire deals. 1:33 in favour of the terrorists shows you how much they value their own people. A demand for a permanent halt to hostilities seems like the Palestinians are labouring under the misapprehension they're negotiating from a position of strength. On the flip side, the fact they've agreed to any deal suggests they've finally realised the Israelis are winning.

[Vanden Saab]

JJJ. said:

Vanden Saab said:

s1962a said:

Derek Smith said:

Vanden Saab said:

Derek Smith said:

HAMAS has accepted the ceasefire terms put forward by Egypt and Qatar. If they include the release of hostages, from both sides, Netanyahu will have difficulty refusing.

The Israelis do not have any hostages to release.

Have they released them all? Even the doctors?

They are dying in custody

Hostage
Meaning
someone who is taken as a prisoner by an enemy in order to force the other people involved to do what the enemy wants:

At least understand the meaning of the words you are bandying around.

Word games! Scraping the barrel, typical of pro Israeli's and Zionists as they can't offer anything else in Israel's defence.

There's 3000 uncharged Palestinian prisoners in the West Bank. They could be easily considered hostages! And that's not including over 5000 that have been.

So no hostages then. Glad we got that sorted.

[JJJ.]

Vanden Saab said:

JJJ. said:

Vanden Saab said:

s1962a said:

Derek Smith said:

Vanden Saab said:

Derek Smith said:

HAMAS has accepted the ceasefire terms put forward by Egypt and Qatar. If they include the release of hostages, from both sides, Netanyahu will have difficulty refusing.

The Israelis do not have any hostages to release.

Have they released them all? Even the doctors?

They are dying in custody

Hostage
Meaning
someone who is taken as a prisoner by an enemy in order to force the other people involved to do what the enemy wants:

At least understand the meaning of the words you are bandying around.

Word games! Scraping the barrel, typical of pro Israeli's and Zionists as they can't offer anything else in Israel's defence.

There's 3000 uncharged Palestinian prisoners in the West Bank. They could be easily considered hostages! And that's not including over 5000 that have been.

So no hostages then. Glad we got that sorted.

Eylon Levy has spoken!

[fizz47]

The majority have never been convicted of a crime, including more than 2,000 of them being held in administrative detention, in which the Israeli military detains a person without charge or trial. Such detention can be renewed indefinitely based on secret information, which the detainee is not allowed to see. Administrative detainees are held on the presumption that they might commit an offense at some point in the future. Israeli authorities have held children, human rights defenders and Palestinian political activists, among others, in administrative detention, often for prolonged periods.

This is from a so called only democracy in the Middle East

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/29/why-does-israe...

Defenders of ‘morality’ once again showing their true colours…

[M1AGM]

fizz47 said:

The majority have never been convicted of a crime, including more than 2,000 of them being held in administrative detention, in which the Israeli military detains a person without charge or trial. Such detention can be renewed indefinitely based on secret information, which the detainee is not allowed to see. Administrative detainees are held on the presumption that they might commit an offense at some point in the future. Israeli authorities have held children, human rights defenders and Palestinian political activists, among others, in administrative detention, often for prolonged periods.

This is from a so called only democracy in the Middle East

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/29/why-does-israe...

Defenders of ‘morality’ once again showing their true colours…

Quite agree, but they are not hostages, which seems to be the bone of contention for today.

[JJJ.]

M1AGM said:

fizz47 said:

The majority have never been convicted of a crime, including more than 2,000 of them being held in administrative detention, in which the Israeli military detains a person without charge or trial. Such detention can be renewed indefinitely based on secret information, which the detainee is not allowed to see. Administrative detainees are held on the presumption that they might commit an offense at some point in the future. Israeli authorities have held children, human rights defenders and Palestinian political activists, among others, in administrative detention, often for prolonged periods.

This is from a so called only democracy in the Middle East

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/29/why-does-israe...

Defenders of ‘morality’ once again showing their true colours…

Quite agree, but they are not hostages, which seems to be the bone of contention for today.

They may as well be! They'll be used in exchange for Israeli hostages. I don't see much difference between them when it comes to status, except the Palestinians are held by a recognized state.

''Discrimination in detention and imprisonment is just one aspect of systematic oppression, which underlies Israeli authorities’ crimes against humanity of apartheid and persecution against Palestinians, as Human Rights Watch and other Israeli, Palestinian, and international human rights organizations have found.''

Edited by JJJ. on Monday 6th May 21:32

[Electro1980]

M1AGM said:

Quite agree, but they are not hostages, which seems to be the bone of contention for today.

Arguing semantics… says everything that needs to be said…

[Vanden Saab]

JJJ. said:

M1AGM said:

fizz47 said:

The majority have never been convicted of a crime, including more than 2,000 of them being held in administrative detention, in which the Israeli military detains a person without charge or trial. Such detention can be renewed indefinitely based on secret information, which the detainee is not allowed to see. Administrative detainees are held on the presumption that they might commit an offense at some point in the future. Israeli authorities have held children, human rights defenders and Palestinian political activists, among others, in administrative detention, often for prolonged periods.

This is from a so called only democracy in the Middle East

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/29/why-does-israe...

Defenders of ‘morality’ once again showing their true colours…

Quite agree, but they are not hostages, which seems to be the bone of contention for today.

They may as well be! They'll be used in exchange for Israeli hostages. I don't see much difference between them when it comes to status, except the Palestinians are held by a recognized state.

''Discrimination in detention and imprisonment is just one aspect of systematic oppression, which underlies Israeli authorities’ crimes against humanity of apartheid and persecution against Palestinians, as Human Rights Watch and other Israeli, Palestinian, and international human rights organizations have found.''

Edited by JJJ. on Monday 6th May 21:32

I could provide a list of other countries that use administrative detention which is recognised under international law but you will once again just ignore it and move onto whatever the next antisematic bullst is that you have harvested from your homework and that you have never complained about until Israel did it.

[Electro1980]

Vanden Saab said:

antisematic

As always. Dodge the issue. Scream antisemitism. And this is from someone who squeals like crazy whenever racism accusations come up for actual racism. But agreeing with the international communities view on Israel holding people without charge is now antisematic…

[Ridgemont]

JJJ. said:

Vanden Saab said:

antisematic bullst

Wow, getting upset now. fking great! Shout some more...

Impressive way to conduct a discussion.