Miscreants on a Train
Discussion
nuyorican said:
Unpopular opinion maybe, but I think the more of us that gave these little sts a good slap, the better. Be damned the consequences.
I remember in the early nineties as a yoof myself. Ashamed to say we were being disrespectful to an old guy just walking through the park. One of us took it too far and started following him and getting in his face. Whereupon the old guy suddenly stopped and absolutely clubbed my mate right in the jaw.
The complete look of shock on my mates face will always raise a giggle. We/he never did that again.
A good sharp shock isn’t going to do them any harm, quite the opposite in fact. Although these days the old guy would have probably been hauled up in front of the beak for “child” abuse…
As long as you can reconcile the possibility of getting stabbed for sake of teaching an unteachable a lesson. I remember in the early nineties as a yoof myself. Ashamed to say we were being disrespectful to an old guy just walking through the park. One of us took it too far and started following him and getting in his face. Whereupon the old guy suddenly stopped and absolutely clubbed my mate right in the jaw.
The complete look of shock on my mates face will always raise a giggle. We/he never did that again.
A good sharp shock isn’t going to do them any harm, quite the opposite in fact. Although these days the old guy would have probably been hauled up in front of the beak for “child” abuse…
My missus works in a very deprived school and is pretty good at picking which ones will be in prison in the near future. The home lives of these kids is often beyond tragic. The threshold for them being removed from the home is ridiculously high.
WindyCommon said:
There’s your answer, and we can all learn from this. If a scrote threatens you like this, call the police and tell them you’ve just been threatened by a an aggressive scrote who indicated he had a knife/weapon. It’s ok that you didn’t stop to check or ask for proof.
If you’re right and there was knife then you may save someone else from being stabbed. How would you feel if you didn’t report it and later learned that someone had been stabbed?
Yes well done. You’ll trigger a response from armed units and all other free officers in the area, leaving them unavailable for confirmed events. If you’re right and there was knife then you may save someone else from being stabbed. How would you feel if you didn’t report it and later learned that someone had been stabbed?
Glassman said:
On my way out to a jolly yesterday, I jumped on a train from my local station and walking through the middle to find a seat there was an electric scooter in the way which, if I wanted to continue walking, would have had to step over. It belonged to one of a pair of youths who were sprawled across four seats facing each other.
I glanced at the pair of them and there was absolutely zero effort to move the scooter or make an apology for it. I carried on with a deadpan face but one of them pipes up with, "wot you say?" I really didn't want to bite as in my estimate they couldn't have been a day over 18 but I may have been wrong, though I did reply as I carried on with my walk to a seat telling him he must be hearing things because I didn't say anything. "But you iz lookin at me like you wanna say suh-ing and I going to prison in 3 days so I don't care innit". As he did this he made a gesture of lifting his jacket up from over his trouser pocket. At this point I have to think about my next move, and just as I replied to his 'going to prison in free dayz' comment with, 'do you want a lift' I found myself thinking: they're a couple of teenage dheads; do I really need to risk ruining my day by engaging them, and I'm not really that bothered by them at all however, one of them has indicated that he might be carrying a weapon (or certainly wanted to make me think that way). "Enjoy prison," I said as I sat down a couple of rows away from them but I was itching to do something more.
In one way it was a comforting thought that I know there is no way my two teenage sons would act anything like it. But then I thought, what if one or both of them encountered these two scumbags? What if they did have a weapon and wanted to add having used it on their CV? They were now in my head and I had to convince myself not to act upon the rage I was feeling. Then I thought, perhaps alert the BTP and let them intercept them at a station.
Looking through my phone, there was no way of discretely alerting anyone. It appears that the only way to get emergency assistance was by dialing 999. Meanwhile, the two cretins were discussing how they were going to exit their destination station (which was clearly about not paying). They didn't give a flying fk that there were about 12 other passengers privy to their conversations. This wound me up too and the urge to get up drag the pair out onto the next platform was growing stronger and stronger. Two stops later, they got off. My stop came after theirs.
When I walked out of the station there just so happened to be a police officer by the exit. I told him what happened and asked if there was a way to send a message discretely if you felt you couldn't make a 999 voice call. He didn't know. He added that IF I SAW a knife, he would want to know ALL the details but as I didn't see a weapon he couldn't help me. I didn't really want his help as such but was curious about how someone who might genuinely feel threatened by such a situation, how could they reach out for help?
Given your last encounter with the police I am shocked that you are so eager to go through it all again! Some people never learn :sigh: .I glanced at the pair of them and there was absolutely zero effort to move the scooter or make an apology for it. I carried on with a deadpan face but one of them pipes up with, "wot you say?" I really didn't want to bite as in my estimate they couldn't have been a day over 18 but I may have been wrong, though I did reply as I carried on with my walk to a seat telling him he must be hearing things because I didn't say anything. "But you iz lookin at me like you wanna say suh-ing and I going to prison in 3 days so I don't care innit". As he did this he made a gesture of lifting his jacket up from over his trouser pocket. At this point I have to think about my next move, and just as I replied to his 'going to prison in free dayz' comment with, 'do you want a lift' I found myself thinking: they're a couple of teenage dheads; do I really need to risk ruining my day by engaging them, and I'm not really that bothered by them at all however, one of them has indicated that he might be carrying a weapon (or certainly wanted to make me think that way). "Enjoy prison," I said as I sat down a couple of rows away from them but I was itching to do something more.
In one way it was a comforting thought that I know there is no way my two teenage sons would act anything like it. But then I thought, what if one or both of them encountered these two scumbags? What if they did have a weapon and wanted to add having used it on their CV? They were now in my head and I had to convince myself not to act upon the rage I was feeling. Then I thought, perhaps alert the BTP and let them intercept them at a station.
Looking through my phone, there was no way of discretely alerting anyone. It appears that the only way to get emergency assistance was by dialing 999. Meanwhile, the two cretins were discussing how they were going to exit their destination station (which was clearly about not paying). They didn't give a flying fk that there were about 12 other passengers privy to their conversations. This wound me up too and the urge to get up drag the pair out onto the next platform was growing stronger and stronger. Two stops later, they got off. My stop came after theirs.
When I walked out of the station there just so happened to be a police officer by the exit. I told him what happened and asked if there was a way to send a message discretely if you felt you couldn't make a 999 voice call. He didn't know. He added that IF I SAW a knife, he would want to know ALL the details but as I didn't see a weapon he couldn't help me. I didn't really want his help as such but was curious about how someone who might genuinely feel threatened by such a situation, how could they reach out for help?
My wife and I were on a train back from London, maybe about 10 people in the carriage including three teenage girls Probably 14 or 15 years old. The girls were vaping, drinking alcohol, and making a lot of threatening statements.
I wanted to video some of their behaviour and upload it to the BTP twitter feed but my wife gets very anxious/frightened in these situations and hates it if I do/say something so I did nothing which upsets me as people not calling out unacceptable behaviour is why there’s so much of it about.
We got off the train the stop before the girls and I mentioned what they were doing to the guy working in the train station and he was immediately on the phone to report it (to who I don’t know) but I hope there was a nasty surprise waiting for them when they left the train.
I wanted to video some of their behaviour and upload it to the BTP twitter feed but my wife gets very anxious/frightened in these situations and hates it if I do/say something so I did nothing which upsets me as people not calling out unacceptable behaviour is why there’s so much of it about.
We got off the train the stop before the girls and I mentioned what they were doing to the guy working in the train station and he was immediately on the phone to report it (to who I don’t know) but I hope there was a nasty surprise waiting for them when they left the train.
You should have asked him which prison he was going to ? They don’t send out invitations , the few I know who have served time always say the last words they hear is “ take him down “ after sentencing , then they’re transferred to whichever big house is appropriate.
Or told him you’d just got out after a three year stretch for violence related offences , I’d guess he’d have moved his “ scooter “
Jeez , what ever happened to criminals ? A fking scooter on a train and a pre booked cell ?
Or told him you’d just got out after a three year stretch for violence related offences , I’d guess he’d have moved his “ scooter “
Jeez , what ever happened to criminals ? A fking scooter on a train and a pre booked cell ?
r3g said:
Given your last encounter with the police I am shocked that you are so eager to go through it all again! Some people never learn :sigh: .
Slightly different circumstances although I did wonder how things would pan out if I did take matters into my own hands (as in, I'm still waiting for the outcome of my voluntary interview). languagetimothy said:
Well if the scrote really is going to prison soon then be happy in the knowledge that he may find out quickly and abruptly how hard he really isn’t.
My thoughts exactly.I’ll wager £20 he wasn’t going inside though. I think I’d literally burst out laughing at someone if they tried using that to intimidate me.
The UK today, eh? Problem is people band these yobs in with all the 'good kids'. And there are plenty of the latter.
Intervene? Today, not worth it. Life's too short as it is.
Call the cops? Yep, after you're out the way of said yob(s).
Must confess, I only looked in here because I thought thread might be about a new single by the Stereophonics!
Intervene? Today, not worth it. Life's too short as it is.
Call the cops? Yep, after you're out the way of said yob(s).
Must confess, I only looked in here because I thought thread might be about a new single by the Stereophonics!
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