An epidemic of insanely slow drivers

An epidemic of insanely slow drivers

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popeyewhite

20,036 posts

121 months

Monday 6th May
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Guybrush said:
I've little doubt that those who get raged up when overtaken are exhibiting a reflection of their opinion about their own lives, in which they have failed or feel inferior in some way. On the road, being in charge of their vehicle, is one of the few (or only) way they are able to have any influence on others.
An extension of control. But a risky policy given the amount of other drivers you share roadspace with!

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DonkeyApple

55,631 posts

170 months

Monday 6th May
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MightyBadger said:
Acuity30 said:
the drivers who will speed up and try and close the gap when you go for an overtake. They were happy doing 40 in a 60 but suddenly they're doing 65 to try and prevent you getting ahead.
These are the dangerous ***** that need banning, always fun to see them fuming in the rear view mirror though biglaugh
They've existed since the dawn of motoring but became an issue with the arrival of the affordable common rail turbo diesel. The discounted VED lured millions in and amongst them were that niche that viewed every situation in life as some form of queue and that everyone was in this imaginary queue. This subsect of the loser community were suddenly weaponised. They went from their Austin Princess coughing out a little ball of black smoke when they floored it to try and block a pass while their car did nothing, or their Cavalier or Mondeo raising its bonnet an inch when they buried the throttle yet the car doing nothing else to suddenly having an annuity spec diesel BMW and it actually moving forward to create the potential extremely dangerous situation that they have always wanted to create.

The modern, cheap, turbo diesel empowered the broken middle management mind of adenoidal male Britons.

You still see them to this day. You go to pass and you watch them slam their foot down to try and keep another car out on the other side until an oncoming vehicle completes their manovre for them. Or on the motorway when you indicate to move out you see their lights flickr as their bonnet rises because they've buried the throttle to try and create a confrontation which they can then safely self medicate over without the risk of being punched or spoken to.

They're the weird blokes who try and police merge in turn zip instructions by blocking an entire lane a mile from the point where everyone is supposed to simply merge.

They're the men enraged by a cyclist daring to slow their progress because of someone is on a bike they must be inferior and so being held up by a lessor human is a grotesque affront.

They're enraged when they see a woman in an SUV or a man in one that they deem to be inferior to then on grounds of skin colour or on trend street clothing.

And yet they will crawl prostrated in the dirt if it were a member of the landed gentry before them or just bow before you when they realise that by their own insane hierarchical system you are multiple rungs above them and then they persist in toadying to you and spoiling the event that you are at because they just follow you around.

The U.K. is riddled with these blokes it's very much a British disease caused by a devout belief that for some wholly unjustifiable belief they are important people. The obsequious toady. I have never found it replicated in any other culture to the extent it is in Britain.

Monkeylegend

26,516 posts

232 months

Monday 6th May
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And much in evidence on this thread and PH in general.

popeyewhite

20,036 posts

121 months

Monday 6th May
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I don't think it's much to do with self-importance...more a fragile ego and a sudden rush of blood to the head. Cars are definitely an important part of UK culture...ins companies, TV adverts, etc all play to this culture. Roads are also crowded, cars are expensive as is fuelling them, and cars are easy to modify. They are wrapped up in the British psyche like roast beef and cricket.

Unreal

3,512 posts

26 months

Monday 6th May
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DonkeyApple said:
MightyBadger said:
Acuity30 said:
the drivers who will speed up and try and close the gap when you go for an overtake. They were happy doing 40 in a 60 but suddenly they're doing 65 to try and prevent you getting ahead.
These are the dangerous ***** that need banning, always fun to see them fuming in the rear view mirror though biglaugh
They've existed since the dawn of motoring but became an issue with the arrival of the affordable common rail turbo diesel. The discounted VED lured millions in and amongst them were that niche that viewed every situation in life as some form of queue and that everyone was in this imaginary queue. This subsect of the loser community were suddenly weaponised. They went from their Austin Princess coughing out a little ball of black smoke when they floored it to try and block a pass while their car did nothing, or their Cavalier or Mondeo raising its bonnet an inch when they buried the throttle yet the car doing nothing else to suddenly having an annuity spec diesel BMW and it actually moving forward to create the potential extremely dangerous situation that they have always wanted to create.

The modern, cheap, turbo diesel empowered the broken middle management mind of adenoidal male Britons.

You still see them to this day. You go to pass and you watch them slam their foot down to try and keep another car out on the other side until an oncoming vehicle completes their manovre for them. Or on the motorway when you indicate to move out you see their lights flickr as their bonnet rises because they've buried the throttle to try and create a confrontation which they can then safely self medicate over without the risk of being punched or spoken to.

They're the weird blokes who try and police merge in turn zip instructions by blocking an entire lane a mile from the point where everyone is supposed to simply merge.

They're the men enraged by a cyclist daring to slow their progress because of someone is on a bike they must be inferior and so being held up by a lessor human is a grotesque affront.

They're enraged when they see a woman in an SUV or a man in one that they deem to be inferior to then on grounds of skin colour or on trend street clothing.

And yet they will crawl prostrated in the dirt if it were a member of the landed gentry before them or just bow before you when they realise that by their own insane hierarchical system you are multiple rungs above them and then they persist in toadying to you and spoiling the event that you are at because they just follow you around.

The U.K. is riddled with these blokes it's very much a British disease caused by a devout belief that for some wholly unjustifiable belief they are important people. The obsequious toady. I have never found it replicated in any other culture to the extent it is in Britain.
They drive EVs not diesels now. All they ever talk about is the acceleration and how cheap they are to run.

TameRacingDriver

18,117 posts

273 months

Monday 6th May
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DonkeyApple said:
They've existed since the dawn of motoring but became an issue with the arrival of the affordable common rail turbo diesel. The discounted VED lured millions in and amongst them were that niche that viewed every situation in life as some form of queue and that everyone was in this imaginary queue. This subsect of the loser community were suddenly weaponised. They went from their Austin Princess coughing out a little ball of black smoke when they floored it to try and block a pass while their car did nothing, or their Cavalier or Mondeo raising its bonnet an inch when they buried the throttle yet the car doing nothing else to suddenly having an annuity spec diesel BMW and it actually moving forward to create the potential extremely dangerous situation that they have always wanted to create.

The modern, cheap, turbo diesel empowered the broken middle management mind of adenoidal male Britons.

You still see them to this day. You go to pass and you watch them slam their foot down to try and keep another car out on the other side until an oncoming vehicle completes their manovre for them. Or on the motorway when you indicate to move out you see their lights flickr as their bonnet rises because they've buried the throttle to try and create a confrontation which they can then safely self medicate over without the risk of being punched or spoken to.

They're the weird blokes who try and police merge in turn zip instructions by blocking an entire lane a mile from the point where everyone is supposed to simply merge.

They're the men enraged by a cyclist daring to slow their progress because of someone is on a bike they must be inferior and so being held up by a lessor human is a grotesque affront.

They're enraged when they see a woman in an SUV or a man in one that they deem to be inferior to then on grounds of skin colour or on trend street clothing.

And yet they will crawl prostrated in the dirt if it were a member of the landed gentry before them or just bow before you when they realise that by their own insane hierarchical system you are multiple rungs above them and then they persist in toadying to you and spoiling the event that you are at because they just follow you around.

The U.K. is riddled with these blokes it's very much a British disease caused by a devout belief that for some wholly unjustifiable belief they are important people. The obsequious toady. I have never found it replicated in any other culture to the extent it is in Britain.
Luckily I haven't encountered too many of these sorts, but a fairly recent thing I've noticed is a trend in utter s moving across the centre line when you're in the middle of an overtake, almost as though they're trying to ram you off the road. They want stringing up by their fking bks.

DonkeyApple

55,631 posts

170 months

Monday 6th May
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popeyewhite said:
I don't think it's much to do with self-importance...more a fragile ego and a sudden rush of blood to the head. Cars are definitely an important part of UK culture...ins companies, TV adverts, etc all play to this culture. Roads are also crowded, cars are expensive as is fuelling them, and cars are easy to modify. They are wrapped up in the British psyche like roast beef and cricket.
Isn't that the epitome of self importance?

M4cruiser

3,703 posts

151 months

Monday 6th May
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Foss62 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Especially from the ones who try to make out, that anyone who does not want to dawdle, and who wants to travel legally at the posted limits, is some kind of speed freak.
Where are these posts? I can’t recall anyone on this entire thread saying this, and bearing in mind the nature of the forum I doubt that there are any contributors to this discussion who don’t regularly ‘stretch’ the posted limits.
All that those arguing against you are pointing out, is that constant travel at posted speed limits at all times is neither possible nor particularly desirable. Everyone, including you, will be judged a ‘dawdler’ at some point, by someone and providing you are following HC rules in interactions with other vehicles, there is no problem with that.
There are people who seem to think it's ok to go 15% faster than the 70 limit (86mph) yet won't accept that others may want to go 15% slower than the 70 limit (59mph). Such hypocrisy.


RSTurboPaul

10,488 posts

259 months

Monday 6th May
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M4cruiser said:
Foss62 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Especially from the ones who try to make out, that anyone who does not want to dawdle, and who wants to travel legally at the posted limits, is some kind of speed freak.
Where are these posts? I can’t recall anyone on this entire thread saying this, and bearing in mind the nature of the forum I doubt that there are any contributors to this discussion who don’t regularly ‘stretch’ the posted limits.
All that those arguing against you are pointing out, is that constant travel at posted speed limits at all times is neither possible nor particularly desirable. Everyone, including you, will be judged a ‘dawdler’ at some point, by someone and providing you are following HC rules in interactions with other vehicles, there is no problem with that.
There are people who seem to think it's ok to go 15% faster than the 70 limit (86mph) yet won't accept that others may want to go 15% slower than the 70 limit (59mph). Such hypocrisy.

There are people who seem to think it's ok to go 15% slower than the 70 limit (59mph) yet won't accept that others may want to go 15% faster than the 70 limit (86mph). Such hypocrisy.

wink


[N.B. 115% of 70mph is 80.5mph, not 86mph... isn't it??]

Acuity30

208 posts

19 months

Monday 6th May
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DonkeyApple said:
MightyBadger said:
Acuity30 said:
the drivers who will speed up and try and close the gap when you go for an overtake. They were happy doing 40 in a 60 but suddenly they're doing 65 to try and prevent you getting ahead.
These are the dangerous ***** that need banning, always fun to see them fuming in the rear view mirror though biglaugh
They've existed since the dawn of motoring but became an issue with the arrival of the affordable common rail turbo diesel. The discounted VED lured millions in and amongst them were that niche that viewed every situation in life as some form of queue and that everyone was in this imaginary queue. This subsect of the loser community were suddenly weaponised. They went from their Austin Princess coughing out a little ball of black smoke when they floored it to try and block a pass while their car did nothing, or their Cavalier or Mondeo raising its bonnet an inch when they buried the throttle yet the car doing nothing else to suddenly having an annuity spec diesel BMW and it actually moving forward to create the potential extremely dangerous situation that they have always wanted to create.

The modern, cheap, turbo diesel empowered the broken middle management mind of adenoidal male Britons.

You still see them to this day. You go to pass and you watch them slam their foot down to try and keep another car out on the other side until an oncoming vehicle completes their manovre for them. Or on the motorway when you indicate to move out you see their lights flickr as their bonnet rises because they've buried the throttle to try and create a confrontation which they can then safely self medicate over without the risk of being punched or spoken to.

They're the weird blokes who try and police merge in turn zip instructions by blocking an entire lane a mile from the point where everyone is supposed to simply merge.

They're the men enraged by a cyclist daring to slow their progress because of someone is on a bike they must be inferior and so being held up by a lessor human is a grotesque affront.

They're enraged when they see a woman in an SUV or a man in one that they deem to be inferior to then on grounds of skin colour or on trend street clothing.

And yet they will crawl prostrated in the dirt if it were a member of the landed gentry before them or just bow before you when they realise that by their own insane hierarchical system you are multiple rungs above them and then they persist in toadying to you and spoiling the event that you are at because they just follow you around.

The U.K. is riddled with these blokes it's very much a British disease caused by a devout belief that for some wholly unjustifiable belief they are important people. The obsequious toady. I have never found it replicated in any other culture to the extent it is in Britain.
Very entertaining read however I think you're wrong in saying it's just blokes. I've seen a lot of women do similar and just having poor road manners. Many times I've been waiting to merge into a slow moving lane from a petrol station for example and seen women speed up and not allow me out. Only to overtake them further up the road when it turns into dual carriageway.

theplayingmantis

3,862 posts

83 months

Monday 6th May
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Acuity30 said:
Very entertaining read however I think you're wrong in saying it's just blokes. I've seen a lot of women do similar and just having poor road manners. Many times I've been waiting to merge into a slow moving lane from a petrol station for example and seen women speed up and not allow me out. Only to overtake them further up the road when it turns into dual carriageway.
And usually rather fat unattractive women ime.

king arthur

6,594 posts

262 months

Monday 6th May
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Another one: You are on a dual carriageway in a queue of slow moving traffic, and you are either in lane two and you see someone signalling to move into your lane so you kindly let them in, or you're in lane one and you kindly let someone out of a side turning in front of you.

But instead of keeping up with the car that was in front of you, they dawdle even more slowly than the rest of the traffic creating an enormous gap in front of them which then fills with other cars. So now you have a whole ton more cars in front of you than you would have had, which means you are stuck in the traffic for another couple more minutes of your life than you would have been had you not been kind enough to let this moron out in front of you.

Mr Miata

968 posts

51 months

Monday 6th May
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M4cruiser said:
There are people who seem to think it's ok to go 15% faster than the 70 limit (86mph) yet won't accept that others may want to go 15% slower than the 70 limit (59mph). Such hypocrisy.

I don’t know why you would want to go 15% slower in perfectly good conditions?

I wonder if those who do, wonder why they cant see any car in front of them yet if they were to check their mirrors they’d see there’s a literally 10 cars bumper-to-bumper behind them?

When they complain that sombody dangerously overtook them (in their opinion) do they ever consider it’s themselves who are the problem, by driving at 40 mph in a 60 limit?

Mr Miata

968 posts

51 months

Monday 6th May
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Acuity30 said:
Very entertaining read however I think you're wrong in saying it's just blokes. I've seen a lot of women do similar and just having poor road manners. Many times I've been waiting to merge into a slow moving lane from a petrol station for example and seen women speed up and not allow me out. Only to overtake them further up the road when it turns into dual carriageway.
I’ve experienced HGV’s do this when there’s roadworks and a lane closure on a motorway.

Only for me to overtake them again as soon as the roadworks end and it goes back to the NSL.

I don’t get what the HGV achieved here?

wc98

10,431 posts

141 months

Monday 6th May
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Heaveho said:
I'm generally surprised and usually impressed if I'm overtaken. It would have to be genuinely dangerous or cause me to take evasive action to be something I'd get annoyed about. I was absolutely flat out in my van on a peculiarly quiet stretch of the M1 a couple of years ago and was overtaken by a large capacity motorcycle who was also probably getting on for being flat out. It made my heart sing to realise I'm not still the only one.
This, i love being overtaken by a car or bike. A 1000cc sports bike at full chat sounds great as do many quick cars. I will always get the window down to make sure i get the full experience.
The E class that came past me full chat on the M8 last summer at about 1am was great, saw the headlights from a long way back and knew he was tramping on, had to be on the limiter when he came past, i had a big smile on my face for the next few miles. Same with that crew of high end sports cars i think the year before. They made the news for their Scottish jaunt and when they were heading west on the M8 i was heading east, the cars at the front including what looked like a GT3 RS and a GTR must have been north of 170mph,again sounded fantastic.

DonkeyApple

55,631 posts

170 months

Monday 6th May
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theplayingmantis said:
And usually rather fat unattractive women ime.
They're the ones who drive on the wrong side of the road on blind bends around here. I think they're confusing tarmac with cake and just want it all. I did learn that they can get very angry should you try to point out that the road isn't cake and they can't have it all. This was several years ago and she may still be back there shouting. She had the reserves in for a long siege.

Gordon Hill

889 posts

16 months

Monday 6th May
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Unreal said:
DonkeyApple said:
MightyBadger said:
Acuity30 said:
the drivers who will speed up and try and close the gap when you go for an overtake. They were happy doing 40 in a 60 but suddenly they're doing 65 to try and prevent you getting ahead.
These are the dangerous ***** that need banning, always fun to see them fuming in the rear view mirror though biglaugh
They've existed since the dawn of motoring but became an issue with the arrival of the affordable common rail turbo diesel. The discounted VED lured millions in and amongst them were that niche that viewed every situation in life as some form of queue and that everyone was in this imaginary queue. This subsect of the loser community were suddenly weaponised. They went from their Austin Princess coughing out a little ball of black smoke when they floored it to try and block a pass while their car did nothing, or their Cavalier or Mondeo raising its bonnet an inch when they buried the throttle yet the car doing nothing else to suddenly having an annuity spec diesel BMW and it actually moving forward to create the potential extremely dangerous situation that they have always wanted to create.

The modern, cheap, turbo diesel empowered the broken middle management mind of adenoidal male Britons.

You still see them to this day. You go to pass and you watch them slam their foot down to try and keep another car out on the other side until an oncoming vehicle completes their manovre for them. Or on the motorway when you indicate to move out you see their lights flickr as their bonnet rises because they've buried the throttle to try and create a confrontation which they can then safely self medicate over without the risk of being punched or spoken to.

They're the weird blokes who try and police merge in turn zip instructions by blocking an entire lane a mile from the point where everyone is supposed to simply merge.

They're the men enraged by a cyclist daring to slow their progress because of someone is on a bike they must be inferior and so being held up by a lessor human is a grotesque affront.

They're enraged when they see a woman in an SUV or a man in one that they deem to be inferior to then on grounds of skin colour or on trend street clothing.

And yet they will crawl prostrated in the dirt if it were a member of the landed gentry before them or just bow before you when they realise that by their own insane hierarchical system you are multiple rungs above them and then they persist in toadying to you and spoiling the event that you are at because they just follow you around.

The U.K. is riddled with these blokes it's very much a British disease caused by a devout belief that for some wholly unjustifiable belief they are important people. The obsequious toady. I have never found it replicated in any other culture to the extent it is in Britain.
They drive EVs not diesels now. All they ever talk about is the acceleration and how cheap they are to run.
Don't they just, on and on and on and on zzzzzzzzzzzzz

KTMsm

26,943 posts

264 months

Monday 6th May
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Bought a new car today, trailering it home and I was held up on an NSL by some idiot in a Peugeot doing 40 - overtook him up the inside, on an island

Then I was held up by a fat bloke on a sports bike

If you can't do 60 on an NSL on a 1000cc bike, it's time to give up

Hoofy

76,470 posts

283 months

Monday 6th May
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25 in a 40, hogging the right hand lane, turning right in a mile. FFS. Get the fking bus.

MKnight702

3,113 posts

215 months

Monday 6th May
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Blib said:
I'm the best driver ever. Never had an accident. Though, I've seen loads in my rear view mirror.

yes
Also. I have no idea what people are moaning about, I have never come across any traffic hold ups, nor have any of the hundreds of people behind me.